Their parents didn't like them much!

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The pic of the "Pine Cone Hand Grenade" in today's humor post by Narraganset brought back memories of childhood war games! Then this sad tale came to remembrance; At the end of our street lived a family with "Much Disposable Income" and few restraints on the kids!

The older son was in my brother's elementary class, and the younger son was one or two years behind. (This is the 62-63 school year and my brother was in 6th grade.) The parents would buy just about anything the kids ask for, and the older son got a 20 caliber pellet rifle for Christmas. You could pump it up really high and actually kill small game with it.

We were walking past their house and you'd hear the rifle shoot and the younger brother scream! I ask my brother what that kid's dad would do to him for shooting his brother? His response was that the parents gave them anything and ignored them otherwise, because "Their Parents didn't like them very much!"

I know my parents liked me! In retrospect, they got a little carried away sometimes, but they were trying to raise two humans not two wild beasts! I did plenty to get spanked for and received my just reward! So, I learned how to be a member of a civilized society.

I watched the neighborhood kids grow up at the same time as my 4 kids. My kids did something wrong and got DISIPLENED, the neighborhood kids did the same stupid stuff (I think that's where my kids got some of those ideas) and nothing happened. My kids at first challenged my love for them, then they started realizing why I Disciplined them. About the time my youngest (and wildest) was in college the boy next store started a 10 year or so stretch for Drug trafficking! I actually heard my son say to one of his friends that the next-door boy's PARENTS DIDN"T REALLY LIKE HIM VERY MUCH!

My kids turn 40 to 45 this year. Nobody went to prison, everybody lives in their own home (not in my basement) they all go to work everyday, and raise their kids to be behaved! I guess my folks did it right, I guess my brother and I did it right, and it sure looks like my kids are doing it right.

In closing, my wife and her sister talked about sending letters and Christmas presents to their cousin in prison when they were teens. The tears flowed freely! They made sure they didn't have to do that for their kids! They really liked their kids!

Ivan
 
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I was the same with my kids...who are now model citizens, great careers and families of their own, and not lick of problems from either of them beyond the typical kid stuff. It may not seem so at times, but there are still enough of us around to keep the movie Idiocracy from becoming a documentary...I hope.
 
Based on my professional experiences I have a few comments on such, some of which can be posted here.
1) There is a reason I refer to a significant percentage of the population as "criminally feral" - they are about as well raised for a decent society as a 3 year old barn cat.

2) "Parenting is a social behavior. Gene donation is a collateral consequence of a recreational activity."
 
When I was in the Marines we had a real troubled guy in the squadron . He actually went awol in Australia , was gone for a while . Finally his girlfriend turned him in . He had to pay back Uncle Sam the cost of 2 brig chasers to fly to Australia and back and his ticket . He didn't get much , like $25 a payday . He called his parents for some cash , phone was disconnected . Anyone he called, they'd say they didn't know where they were . Now that's someone who's parents didn't like him .
 
The pic of the "Pine Cone Hand Grenade" in today's humor post by Narraganset brought back memories of childhood war games! Then this sad tale came to remembrance; At the end of our street lived a family with "Much Disposable Income" and few restraints on the kids!

The older son was in my brother's elementary class, and the younger son was one or two years behind. (This is the 62-63 school year and my brother was in 6th grade.) The parents would buy just about anything the kids ask for, and the older son got a 20 caliber pellet rifle for Christmas. You could pump it up really high and actually kill small game with it.

We were walking past their house and you'd hear the rifle shoot and the younger brother scream! I ask my brother what that kid's dad would do to him for shooting his brother? His response was that the parents gave them anything and ignored them otherwise, because "Their Parents didn't like them very much!"

I know my parents liked me! In retrospect, they got a little carried away sometimes, but they were trying to raise two humans not two wild beasts! I did plenty to get spanked for and received my just reward! So, I learned how to be a member of a civilized society.

I watched the neighborhood kids grow up at the same time as my 4 kids. My kids did something wrong and got DISIPLENED, the neighborhood kids did the same stupid stuff (I think that's where my kids got some of those ideas) and nothing happened. My kids at first challenged my love for them, then they started realizing why I Disciplined them. About the time my youngest (and wildest) was in college the boy next store started a 10 year or so stretch for Drug trafficking! I actually heard my son say to one of his friends that the next-door boy's PARENTS DIDN"T REALLY LIKE HIM VERY MUCH!

My kids turn 40 to 45 this year. Nobody went to prison, everybody lives in their own home (not in my basement) they all go to work everyday, and raise their kids to be behaved! I guess my folks did it right, I guess my brother and I did it right, and it sure looks like my kids are doing it right.

In closing, my wife and her sister talked about sending letters and Christmas presents to their cousin in prison when they were teens. The tears flowed freely! They made sure they didn't have to do that for their kids! They really liked their kids!

Ivan

I've read somewhere that a good father disciplines the children he loves. A father who doesn't discipline his children is treating them as if they were illegitimate...
 
Sad part of today is kids eat in one parent homes and are raised electronically or on the street.
I have read that something like an average of 40% of all kids in the US are living in single-parent homes.
In the larger metropolitan areas with a high number of minority neighborhoods it's higher than that.
 
I came along 9 & 10 years later than my brother & sister, so when I was growing up my parents were a little older and tired. (My brother, 9 years older and a late 1960's era child, had been a real handful.) Both of my parents worked to put my brother and sister through Med school and Nursing school so I grew up as a latch key kid, but that didn't mean I was unsupervised. I rarely got away with anything, (other than sneaking alcohol and learning to reload in a friends basement and shoot behind his house) as the neighbors kept an eye on each others kids and reported to all the parents. As a result, I rarely escaped getting the "love & guidance" my mother & father administered. I don't remember ever getting a "guidance lesson" that I didn't earn and those lessons never crossed the line. I cut multiple neighborhood lawns weekly as soon as I was old enough to do it on my own. I worked steady jobs from the age of 14 while carrying a full college prep high school class load. Somehow I think I turned out OK, being a productive, responsible member of society that would never do anything to disrespect our family. Sadly I never had the opportunity to pass on my lessons to kids of my own but I am blessed to be part of a family that includes 5 young kids to whom I get to be the "uncle".
 
My SIL was paid to give 'riding lessons' to a young girl which was actually babysitting 4-5 days each week because they were always jetting off to Europe. I don't think the poor girl ended up being a psychopath but it's a good thing she didn't have those tendencies in the first place.
 
Fatherlessness has become the norm, and I've met plenty of people who had fathers who were physically present but emotionally absent, aloof, remote, detached, indifferent, uninterested. And I've know plenty of men who regret and resent having children.
Many schools have eliminated parent-child events to avoid embarrassing the divorced kids.
Too many inner city kids are just meal tickets for their mothers. Then there's this "It takes a village" nonsense.
 
Never had any kids. Never saw the world as a place to procreate. I came close with a couple of women but job opportunities for a young white kid with a heart murmur and a hernia, where severely limited. Was told after a civil service exam that everything about me was wrong. Told the person who said that I hoped she didn't expect me to pay the taxes to subsidize my poverty.
 
And now and then you see a kid raised right but it doesn't matter. That's not typical, but it does happen. Sometimes people are what they are.

I see it in my wife's family. The kids were raised the same, and three of the four have really good jobs- a banker, a pharmacist, and a plant manager, and have nice families.

The one, it "didn't take" I guess. He's stayed out of jail, but only by the skin of his teeth. He's in his early 60s, never could keep a job, and never will amount to anything. He would move back in with his 86-year-old parents without any shame if they would let him.

Sometimes, there are people who just suck at being people.
 
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