Check this out. The authorities don't even know what it is yet, but it works like a charm.............https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=l7OadDz3Ums
Think twice about leaving anything vaulable in your car.
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Erich
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Good looking-out, Moosedog.
venomballistics
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its called arrogance.
any time your dealing with a radio frequency you have a fairly narrow band to guess at due to FCC regs ... after you figure out the specific freq's a little data capture will do ya.
Good luck telling any part of the auto industry about it though.
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I'm surprised it took THIS long for it to become a trend ... the stuff to do this has been out there since BEFORE the key FOB
any time your dealing with a radio frequency you have a fairly narrow band to guess at due to FCC regs ... after you figure out the specific freq's a little data capture will do ya.
Good luck telling any part of the auto industry about it though.
rfPIC® ICs - MCUs with transmitters Products - Microchip Technology Inc
I'm surprised it took THIS long for it to become a trend ... the stuff to do this has been out there since BEFORE the key FOB
Stu1205
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Interesting video.
I had my vehicle broken into last December.
My iPod and some other items were stolen.
Since then I purchased a console vault.
It is a 12 gauge cold rolled steel vault that fits into your console.
It has a hinged lid with a barrel lock.
It installs in about 2 minutes, and it is virtually impervious to break ins.
They are custom made to fit into your specific car or truck.
Now, if I have to leave my gun in the car when I go to the post office
or somewhere else I can't take a gun into,
I am confident that it will be there when I get back.
Stu
I had my vehicle broken into last December.
My iPod and some other items were stolen.
Since then I purchased a console vault.
It is a 12 gauge cold rolled steel vault that fits into your console.
It has a hinged lid with a barrel lock.
It installs in about 2 minutes, and it is virtually impervious to break ins.
They are custom made to fit into your specific car or truck.
Now, if I have to leave my gun in the car when I go to the post office
or somewhere else I can't take a gun into,
I am confident that it will be there when I get back.
Stu
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venomballistics
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that is ... assuming your car is still there.
Omaha has enjoyed a pretty good string of auto theft lately. I'd just assume other places are seeing this too.
finesse_r
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I guess you need a console vault and a boot for the tire, like the ones those northern cities put on cars that park illegally. Of course it might take you longer to lock up your vehicle that it would to run the errand, then of course you have to unlock afterwards. I always have trouble putting my pocket carry back in my pocket while in a vehicle.
venomballistics
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hangnoose
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CAR BREAK INS
It's getting so common in some areas here, people are leaving the doors unlocked to avoid having their windows broken & a note saying the doors are unlocked & there's nothing to steal inside.
It's getting so common in some areas here, people are leaving the doors unlocked to avoid having their windows broken & a note saying the doors are unlocked & there's nothing to steal inside.
That's why I have insurance.
Doug M.
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That's why when I go to Yakima and other such places, I take Bozo and leave him in the car. See avatar. That muzzle is not for show. His temperament, like his breath, is similar to that of a dragon.
The note is a good idea. I have a friend who had his window smashed even though the doors were not locked.
I normally do not lock the doors, unless I'm parked somewhere with A LOT of people around. Otherwise I leave them unlocked. If someone wants my dollar store sunglasses fine.
Jst1mr
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A potential problem with this - if your door is unlocked (this applies to at least all GM vehicles), a person with another remote can program it to your code in seconds, then will have easy access to your car anytime - even if you lock it for some reason.
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I guess the next logical step will be to invent a device to by pass the "keyless ignition" and they will basically just drive away with your car and valuables like they owned it. Scarey
sqhead
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buy an old car with no frills,50's,60's 70's era.....ya need a key to do anything.
Grayfox
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I've been saying for years that the more electronic junk they put into cars, the more trouble they become. 
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Smith357
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I leave my car unlocked, I don't keep anything of any value in it, and nobody would want the old stock stereo and cassette deck. I would rather have them just take the $1.39 in change in the console rather than break a window to get the $1.39.
J. R. WEEMS
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Console Vaults, Vehicle Console Vault - GunSafes.com
Here's a link for you. I'm not the guy that posted about the console vaults, but these are what I think he was referring to.
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Here's a link for you. I'm not the guy that posted about the console vaults, but these are what I think he was referring to.
SWCA #1834
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Just do what one of my brothers does, he leaves knee deep trash all over the inside of his car as he is a fast food junkie, it amasses quickly . Try finding anything us use in all that mess? would take you an hour or two and by then, the burglar would be shot several times.
quneur
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You could do what I did once inadvertently. I was visiting Vancouver BC and went into a joke store and bought a fake pile of doodoo. Later that evening, I went to a restaurant and forgot all about it. After dinner the valet returned the car with a smile and pointed to the pile sitting on the passenger seat. I wonder how long it took him to finally figure out it was fake?
Or put fake limbs and severed head in plastic bag along with a litlle shovel on the back seat. The expression on the thieves would be priceless.
Or put fake limbs and severed head in plastic bag along with a litlle shovel on the back seat. The expression on the thieves would be priceless.
Just a small transmitter with a chip that quickly rolls through the range of frequencies. You could find them by using a receiver and a couple different fobs. The old key locks aren't much better as there are battery powered picks. Stick it in and it starts jiggling the tumblers. The dead bolt on your house door won't stop a smart thief very long. I ran a wrecker on winter and lots of lock out calls. So, I started studying locks. The library had a lot of info. I am sure the net has more.
Smart thieves are just about impossible to stop. Even most dumb ones know how to use a rock.
Maybe a decal that announces you collect venomous snakes for serum. But, then some of them can't read.
I just live where it isn't a worry. Leave my keys in the car and truck 24/7. You could steal cars here in the winter just by going to a store parking lot getting in the one you want and putting it in gear. Lots of them setting empty idling to stay warm. Many of them probably have guns in them too. But, then its over 100 miles by 2 lane roads to anyplace near 100,000 and the owner and his friends probably have more guns and knows how to use them.
My problem is when I go to the cities I always end up forgetting to take the keys, but remember to lock the door. But, like many here I keep a spare key behind the gas filler door. LOL.
Smart thieves are just about impossible to stop. Even most dumb ones know how to use a rock.
Maybe a decal that announces you collect venomous snakes for serum. But, then some of them can't read.
I just live where it isn't a worry. Leave my keys in the car and truck 24/7. You could steal cars here in the winter just by going to a store parking lot getting in the one you want and putting it in gear. Lots of them setting empty idling to stay warm. Many of them probably have guns in them too. But, then its over 100 miles by 2 lane roads to anyplace near 100,000 and the owner and his friends probably have more guns and knows how to use them.
My problem is when I go to the cities I always end up forgetting to take the keys, but remember to lock the door. But, like many here I keep a spare key behind the gas filler door. LOL.
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Have any of you ever used handcuffs to secure a revolver to a hard-point in a vehicle, or even in the home? Seems like this would be a pretty good way to do it, certainly stronger than the cables that are sold for that purpose. Could put the cuff through either the trigger guard, or open the cylinder and go through the frame.
Zjnovak
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Can't say I'd be thrilled to do it this way. I guess it's better than nothing, but the handcuffs can scratch the pistol. Not only that, handcuff keys are a dime a dozen, plus they can be picked very easily.
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Break ins are a common problem here. Vehicles in general are easy to break into. So there should never be anything left inside.
Some vehicles are more prone to break ins than others because they are easier and the thieves know it and look for them.
At work, we repair/replace vehicle ignitions and door locks regularly.
Another trend is to steal the garage door opener and the registration.
If this story is true and thieves are actually using it, we are also at risk at home and work. Garage door openers, some residential door locks, and some commercial locks use the same technology.
And the device they are using will not work on your ignition if you have a chip in your key.
Some vehicles are more prone to break ins than others because they are easier and the thieves know it and look for them.
At work, we repair/replace vehicle ignitions and door locks regularly.
Another trend is to steal the garage door opener and the registration.
If this story is true and thieves are actually using it, we are also at risk at home and work. Garage door openers, some residential door locks, and some commercial locks use the same technology.
And the device they are using will not work on your ignition if you have a chip in your key.
Yes sir, I realize all that. My thought is that to turn a 30 second heist into even a 60 second heist might just be enough deterrent to make a kid looking for a quick $50 resale item just move on. Certainly no deterrent to a determined, prepared, even slightly skilled thief. Also, any revolver i would use in this circumstance would be beyond causing me worry about a scratch or two.
As you say, better than nothing.
vito
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My guess is that the thieves using these electronic devices probably are also smart enough to want to get in and out very quickly. While I like the idea of a console vault, I doubt anyone makes one for my specific not-very-common car plus the cost of the ones in the link above are pretty high. I think just a steel case, at about $30, with the securing cable wrapped around the base of the car seat would be enough to deter most thieves, and would certainly be enough for the opportunistic punk who smashes a window and tries to grab what he can and run. I bought one of these cases at Gander Mountain last year, and use it when visiting overnight or longer at one of my kid's homes where I want a place to secure a handgun safe from my grandchildren. Easily fits in my suitcase and works well for one handgun.
gdnagle
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I don't keep anything in my vehicles and I don't trust the OEM alarms. Doesn't cost much more to add a additional alarm system.
