Think twice about leaving anything vaulable in your car.

Just do what one of my brothers does, he leaves knee deep trash all over the inside of his car as he is a fast food junkie, it amasses quickly . Try finding anything us use in all that mess? would take you an hour or two and by then, the burglar would be shot several times.
 
You could do what I did once inadvertently. I was visiting Vancouver BC and went into a joke store and bought a fake pile of doodoo. Later that evening, I went to a restaurant and forgot all about it. After dinner the valet returned the car with a smile and pointed to the pile sitting on the passenger seat. I wonder how long it took him to finally figure out it was fake?

Or put fake limbs and severed head in plastic bag along with a litlle shovel on the back seat. The expression on the thieves would be priceless.
 
Just a small transmitter with a chip that quickly rolls through the range of frequencies. You could find them by using a receiver and a couple different fobs. The old key locks aren't much better as there are battery powered picks. Stick it in and it starts jiggling the tumblers. The dead bolt on your house door won't stop a smart thief very long. I ran a wrecker on winter and lots of lock out calls. So, I started studying locks. The library had a lot of info. I am sure the net has more.

Smart thieves are just about impossible to stop. Even most dumb ones know how to use a rock.

Maybe a decal that announces you collect venomous snakes for serum. But, then some of them can't read.

I just live where it isn't a worry. Leave my keys in the car and truck 24/7. You could steal cars here in the winter just by going to a store parking lot getting in the one you want and putting it in gear. Lots of them setting empty idling to stay warm. Many of them probably have guns in them too. But, then its over 100 miles by 2 lane roads to anyplace near 100,000 and the owner and his friends probably have more guns and knows how to use them.

My problem is when I go to the cities I always end up forgetting to take the keys, but remember to lock the door. But, like many here I keep a spare key behind the gas filler door. LOL.
 
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Have any of you ever used handcuffs to secure a revolver to a hard-point in a vehicle, or even in the home? Seems like this would be a pretty good way to do it, certainly stronger than the cables that are sold for that purpose. Could put the cuff through either the trigger guard, or open the cylinder and go through the frame.
 
Have any of you ever used handcuffs to secure a revolver to a hard-point in a vehicle, or even in the home? Seems like this would be a pretty good way to do it, certainly stronger than the cables that are sold for that purpose. Could put the cuff through either the trigger guard, or open the cylinder and go through the frame.

Can't say I'd be thrilled to do it this way. I guess it's better than nothing, but the handcuffs can scratch the pistol. Not only that, handcuff keys are a dime a dozen, plus they can be picked very easily.

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Break ins are a common problem here. Vehicles in general are easy to break into. So there should never be anything left inside.

Some vehicles are more prone to break ins than others because they are easier and the thieves know it and look for them.

At work, we repair/replace vehicle ignitions and door locks regularly.

Another trend is to steal the garage door opener and the registration.

If this story is true and thieves are actually using it, we are also at risk at home and work. Garage door openers, some residential door locks, and some commercial locks use the same technology.

And the device they are using will not work on your ignition if you have a chip in your key.
 
Can't say I'd be thrilled to do it this way. I guess it's better than nothing, but the handcuffs can scratch the pistol. Not only that, handcuff keys are a dime a dozen, plus they can be picked very easily.

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Yes sir, I realize all that. My thought is that to turn a 30 second heist into even a 60 second heist might just be enough deterrent to make a kid looking for a quick $50 resale item just move on. Certainly no deterrent to a determined, prepared, even slightly skilled thief. Also, any revolver i would use in this circumstance would be beyond causing me worry about a scratch or two.

As you say, better than nothing.
 
My guess is that the thieves using these electronic devices probably are also smart enough to want to get in and out very quickly. While I like the idea of a console vault, I doubt anyone makes one for my specific not-very-common car plus the cost of the ones in the link above are pretty high. I think just a steel case, at about $30, with the securing cable wrapped around the base of the car seat would be enough to deter most thieves, and would certainly be enough for the opportunistic punk who smashes a window and tries to grab what he can and run. I bought one of these cases at Gander Mountain last year, and use it when visiting overnight or longer at one of my kid's homes where I want a place to secure a handgun safe from my grandchildren. Easily fits in my suitcase and works well for one handgun.
 
I don't keep anything in my vehicles and I don't trust the OEM alarms. Doesn't cost much more to add a additional alarm system.
 
Can't say I'd be thrilled to do it this way. I guess it's better than nothing, but the handcuffs can scratch the pistol. Not only that, handcuff keys are a dime a dozen, plus they can be picked very easily.
How about a good quality bike lock? They usually have vinyl coatings to avoid scratching your bike and would be at least a little harder to pick than handcuffs...
 
I guess being too poor to afford a vehicle with a bunch of electrictonic doo dads can be a good thing sometimes. We have the old fashion cranky windows and manual door locks.
Then again, we don't keep anything in our vehicles worth stealing anyway.
 
Have any of you ever used handcuffs to secure a revolver to a hard-point in a vehicle, or even in the home? Seems like this would be a pretty good way to do it, certainly stronger than the cables that are sold for that purpose. Could put the cuff through either the trigger guard, or open the cylinder and go through the frame.
Besides keys-I have three things on my key ring. A band from a mallard I shot years ago, an LSU bottle opener and a S&W handcuff key. Handcuffs or a cold bottle of beer ain't gonna stop me. and I've got the duck to prove it :D
 
It's getting so common in some areas here, people are leaving the doors unlocked to avoid having their windows broken & a note saying the doors are unlocked & there's nothing to steal inside.
Seriously? Your answer to keeping someone from breaking into your car is to leave it unlocked?

I have never seen anything like this shown in the video. I hope to heck they figure out where they are getting them and put a stop to it.
This just goes to show how stupid the people in the media are. Stuff like this can be found on eBay every day. All you need is a little programming knowledge and a generic remote. Notice how the one guy kind of walked past the car before he got in it. He was walking down the street testing every car. When one opened, he took stuff.

This is the price of convenience. The easier it is to access for you, the easier it is to access for the criminal. God forbid you have OnStar. Then they can do anything to you car even if you aren't paying for the service, it's still hooked to your car. With a device like this, they could actually turn your car off while you're driving.
 
Seriously? Your answer to keeping someone from breaking into your car is to leave it unlocked?

This just goes to show how stupid the people in the media are. Stuff like this can be found on eBay every day. All you need is a little programming knowledge and a generic remote. Notice how the one guy kind of walked past the car before he got in it. He was walking down the street testing every car. When one opened, he took stuff.

This is the price of convenience. The easier it is to access for you, the easier it is to access for the criminal. God forbid you have OnStar. Then they can do anything to you car even if you aren't paying for the service, it's still hooked to your car. With a device like this, they could actually turn your car off while you're driving.

Not to mention how most honest folks like ourselves do not fully comprehend auto theft.
They do not steal a car, they steal several and leave em scattered about the area like some kind of covert collection.
Just last night, Omahas Police heli was all over town chasing down one such idiot.
The pilot reported that the perp ditched his car at an apartment complex, hopped into a different car and continued his high speed antics till he figured out he didn't fool anyone.
From the report of him ditching the charger, to the follow up report of the perp making tracks in the white Hyundai Elantra was UNDER 15 SECONDS!
Most of the on duty force came to find him in the fetal position in someones back yard... which made me feel all warm and fuzzy.

Now, when I moved here, within the first month, my wife had her car stolen.
Lemme tell ya all about what you get back IF they recover your ride folks.
Your car WILL be knee deep in junk for having been used as a party barge since it left your possession.
Your cars engine will be noticeably diminished. the concept of a red line seems to elude car thieves.
Your alignment will probably be a little off as well.
Your transmission may also be in rough shape.
you may need a new fuel pump as well, as a result of the relatively minor annoyance of the gas tank being stone dry.

what you will NOT find in it ....
your vehicle registration .. which, last time I checked, has your address.
IF you have an automatic garage door ... the remote will NOT be in your recovered car either.
Oh .. that "clever" magnetic key holder you had stuck up under the dash? ... yeah buddy ... you might hear him at the back door later on in the week.... If your around.
In fact NOTHING you put in it will be there.
that box of ammo you had in the trunk, will be in someones chest later on in the week.
 
Doesn't matter if you leave no valuables in the car or not; thieves these days also go for the airbags, which are worth more money fenced than anything 'valuable' you're likely to have in your car on any given day. They can cost upwards of a thousand dollars each new, so the demand for them as 'replacement' parts is huge.

Problem isn't the lock. It's the thief.

Horses never had to be locked up once it became fatal to steal a horse.
 
One more advantage to driving a "Low-Tech-P-O-S" vehicle. :cool:

too a degree ... the Hispanic demographic withing the car thief fraternity cut their teeth on em getting here.

My trusty Mustang has a few tricks up its sleeve due to its age that would render SOP useless and would take some diagnostic work to boost.
 
Word of warning regarding the "console vault." If you can find one, order it from a reputable company instead of directly from the website/manufacturer!!!!

I ordered one three years ago. It was delivered quickly...and was not the right fit for a F150.

I was asked to return it for a replacement. I did. No replacement, ever.

Several dozen emails, BBB complaint at the local level, state consumer affairs, no replacement.

The guy who stated he was the owner was nice as all get out on the phone, promised delivery, and it never happened.

After six months, close to three hundred dollars in cost and shipping costs, I finally had to file a complaint with the credit card company and get the refund that way.

I know that Cabela's is one major retailer that sells them, which would give a buyer a safer avenue for purchase, and who knows, the company may be under new management, but....

Buyer beware!

Len

PS...having nothing but bad things to say about the operation, the product itself looked great!!!!
 
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