Those darn copperheads

I can see the body, but haven't figured out where the head is.
Saw a report in the last day or so that some guy in I think MO
got bit by one three times, and he was a goner in 30 minutes.
From the description, it sounded like it was a smaller Copperhead.
Those can be bad as they don't regulate the venom too well.
 
Didn't get a full bite. It can be much worse if they inject more venom. Did he receive antivenin?

Was this in Florida? You info says that you're now in Hollywood. You have some bad snakes in California, worse than copperheads. Take care. Of course, you came from where you had the Eastern Diamondback and corals, among others.

You have the Southern Pacific rattler, probably also the Mojave rattler (a really bad one!) And the Red Diamondback.
Does the Western Diamondback extend into CA? Have you got the AZ coral there? It's a different genus than the eastern corals.

Animal Planet used to run a show where Dr. Sean Bush treated snakebites in SoCal. Many of the serious cases involved the Southern Pacific one, Crotalus viridis helleri. The northern part of the state and beyond have the Northern Pacific one. I don't know if it's as toxic as the Southern form, but I suspect so. Has anyone here seen any charts showing the respective LD-50's of both sub-species? I'd sure hate to be bitten by either. With my luck, Dr. Bush's hospital wouldn't take my insurance and some VA doctor would let me die. :rolleyes: I'm not entirely joking. My faith in the VA docs I've seen is limited. And many physicians don't see many snakebites and are vague on treating them.

Dad retired and split time between upstate a ways and Western NC. He took a good hit but Eagle Scout and Navy Corpsman that he was he knew what to do. Not sure of the details of the antivenin series, just know he did it and was done.
Cali does not have the only claim to Hollywood, There's one in Ga. with a Bill's Dish Barn next to Joyce's Peanuts (both gone I believe but my folks names).
Fla. has plenty, don't need to look elsewhere. Friend hit by Pygmy rattler and close call with one by a very young nephew years ago.
Only story I have is when my shells, TP and pants all slid into the swamp when I had to get off the log I was using because the snake got too close. Didn't want to shoot, middle of a hunt but was fixin' to but waited. No moc but a banded water snake.
 
We were the first group at a Boy Scout camp in Arkansas many years ago.
They had permanent tents set up on pallets. The first group there had to clean out the leaves from under the tents.
We pulled the biggest Copperhead I've ever seen out from under a tent with a rake. I kept the snake there, using the rake, while one of the boys went to see if the "zoo" wanted it.
So I'm standing there with a rake and kids would come up and ask what I was doing.
Keeping this snake from leaving.
What snake?
That snake.
Very funny - There ain't no snake there.

A little poke with the rake and Mr. Snake would move a bit and become VERY visible.

Funny thing - If I took my eyes off of it the snake would DISAPPEAR!
Deer can do that too..........
 
Yup, they're hard to see alright. SyFy channel's coming out with another winner, can you guess what they call it?
 

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These things are weird. I'd just about given up finding the copperhead and finally found it. Now, every time I look at the picture the snake is the first thing I see.
 
I see it.
I was at a primitive Roundevous on the side of an Ozarks mountain squatted to do a primitive #2. As I was staring at the Oak leaves A Copperhead shape came into vision. He had not moved but his head was only inches away from my stuff. Within a nanosecond I was airborne and landed elsewhere. I finished up the paper work and went back to look at him. He was almost impossible to relocate and he had not moved.

Copperheads shed annually, right after shedding their skin is the shiny color of new copper. It weathers and blends in with leaves so well they can become almost invisible.

My dad's farm had tall bluffs next to the river. Copperheads denned in caves there. Every spring Copperheads left the denning area to spread out in the Ozark foothills. Most came through our yard and barnyard. Cats ate them, the children of the farmer killed them by the hundreds.

After dad started raising hogs that were free pastured between us and the bluffs we never saw many snakes.

There may be some folks who fish and put night crawlers on hooks by the dozen. A poison snake, out of place, is like the unfortunate night crawler on top of the heap, next to go. Both serve a function but only one will take a bite for you......
Well, if he'd a bit you , ya would'a found out quick who your REAL friends were that's for sure.
 
Well, if he'd a bit you , ya would'a found out quick who your REAL friends were that's for sure.


Reminds me of the old joke about the fellow whose buddy was bit by a copperhead in the tenderest of spots. Took him to the nearest place he could phone a doc to find out what to do. Doc patiently explained about cutting an X over the wound and then sucking out the venom. Fellow returned to the car and told his wounded buddy, "Doc says you're gonna die." :D
 
Best ride I ever made on a bucking hoss was the day ol Alpo stepped off into this little mess.
RattlesnakeDen-1.jpg

Warn't no way I was comin' off of him that day.
 
What scares me is I walked carefully through leaves similar to those yesterday and didn't see a snake then either.

It took zooming but I found it. Wish I hadn't.
 
I couldn't find it. I think all you guys in front of me scared it off. I don't have good eyesight:confused:

AAHHH there it is.
 
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That was amazingly difficult to spot! I had to look away for a bit and come back to it.

Scary, and makes me remember to make a lot of noise out in the woods (except when hunting, and then I'd better be wearing some really good boots)!
 
You never see the snake that bites you.
Wonder just how close many of us came to snakes we never saw.
That thought should relieve the constipation.
Blessings

Reminds me of the ol boy that thought he saw a snake that was a limb and picked up a snake he thought was a limb to kill the limb.

BTW--the last part was PS. :D
 
I'm a golfer here in Fla......lot's of ponds,lakes etc......it's natural for me to look for snakes,red ants and alligators............and then the ball.
 
Best ride I ever made on a bucking hoss was the day ol Alpo stepped off into this little mess.
RattlesnakeDen-1.jpg

Warn't no way I was comin' off of him that day.
Iggy I suspect the suction on that saddle was so great when you looked down and saw them snakes that old Alpo couldn't a bucked ya off if he'd a ran you into a tree whilst doing it:D
 
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