Jeppo
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If it's not a word, then why do all my doctors keep saying it?
I imagine they're simply stumbling on trying to pronounce TTSH.
Three price points = three performance levels.
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I imagine they're simply stumbling on trying to pronounce TTSH.
The only 457S guns I've seen were at gun shows and on the high side. At least I thought so. I've never seen one in a shop, so they are probably both rare and not something that people trade in frequently.
Of course TTSH probably has the market cornered.
As to plastic guns, my antipathy towards striker fired pistols is why I bought the XDE. I've posted about it before, so I'll avoid redundancy.
Still waiting for the weather to improve so I can bring my CS9 to the range. Once that's done, it will go into the carry rotation on days when I need to pocket carry.
Of course TTSH probably has the market cornered.
As to plastic guns, my antipathy towards striker fired pistols is why I bought the XDE. I've posted about it before, so I'll avoid redundancy.
Still waiting for the weather to improve so I can bring my CS9 to the range. Once that's done, it will go into the carry rotation on days when I need to pocket carry.
TTSH Stevie Wonder could have out shot me at 25 yards yesterday. I was coming off of pain killers from oral surgery I had last Tuesday. I had an adverse reaction to the antibiotic the Doc prescribed. One of the effects was my vision was a bit blurry at distance. Not bad at 10 yards and under though.
As to plastic, I've commented on my XDE in the past, so won't do so again.
Oh, I'm still waiting for decent weather so I can range test my CS9 before putting it in my pocket for carry.
The stainless 457 is a very good pistol. Kind of scarce and pricey when it comes along. There is one up on the big auction board. The owner is quite proud of it.
My brother, who is not a gun guy, had a scare recently. Now he wants a concealed permit and a carry gun chambered in 45. I have been steering him twards a stainless 457. Time will tell.
Jeppo, you should always carry that pistol. You get good fast hits with it. I've seen you do it. That gun likes you.
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I do like my stainless steel Value Line guns, especially when they are as-new-in-box and barely (if ever) used.
Nice write up on 3 fine pistols. I just happen to have a spare 457 I was thinking of selling today..Thanks for the advertising 
Nice write up on 3 fine pistols. I just happen to have a spare 457 I was thinking of selling today..Thanks for the advertising
Keep it!
But he had never shot realistic drills with a handgun. Ever. So when I told him that I didn't bring any target guns, just fighting guns he smiled. Till I moved the target in to the one yard line and told him that we were going to shoot from low ready, bring the gun up and fire two to the chest and one to the head. As fast as you can find a flash sight picture. Six rounds in the gun. Run the drill 2X. Thats when the wheels came off the cart.
At 1 yard would you really have time to acquire even a flash sight picture?
Out to 5-7 meters I rarely use the sights on a realisticly attacker sized target. Under 3 meters I would just shoot from the high, or even low, ready position for, usually, A zone hits. At 3 -7 meters I might raise the gun to eye level but I look "over" the sights, not through them.
One match I shoot regularly has 6 rounds on one target, a mandatory reload and 6 rounds on a second target fired at 7 yards from below shoulder height in 15 seconds. The last few times I have shot this all 12 rounds have been in the 9 and 10 ring with my elbows locked at my ribs, the gun held centre of my body and just using my thumbs on the left side of the pistol as a rough sighting guide.
Now those pesky 6" steel plates at 5 meters are a different story, rough sight alignment is needed, but I have hit even the 10" stop plate at 12.8 meters on speed challenge's "smoke and hope" stage many times from the high ready without even seeing the sights in my view.
And yes, I practice this type of shooting at least once a week.
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Actually, now that I have thought about it for a while, I did have a Colt Commander that was reliable, but it had a different problem; it shot wa-a-a-a-a-a-ay off to one side. I bought it new. My gun smith said he might be able to fit a new barrel bushing that might help correct that, but no guarantees.
I bought a Colt "Officers Model", also purchased new and with high hopes. Absolutely would not work with any ammo.
Both of my full-sized Colt Government Model pistols have been completely reliable, and shoot where I aim them.
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Don't feel bad TTSH. Decrepitness isn't even a word.
I coined (I think) the term "decreptitude" and use it almost weekly among my heathens. Meaning, I think, how decrepit one is in life's sometimes long journey.
Heck ... most of my 3rd gen guns are so old.... even my PC guns have only cost me about $25/ year owned.... that's about $4/month for those of you in Rio Linda.
Carry what you shoot best............... new means new .... not better.
Carry what you shoot best............... new means new .... not better.
Keep it!
I think I will
I was just looking at sold 457s on the big auction. $350-$370 looks about average. It's not worth selling unless its a FTF. To much hassle for too little profit. Plus I would lose 2 mags that I can use now. A spare 3rd gen can always become a parts gun if things really got ugly.
At one time I had two PC Shorty 40's and two 4013's, one early non rail and a late rail TSW's. i actually did better shooting with the 4013's. Don't know why though. Today I still have the 4013's. At the range my favorite is an old 3913 and a Browning Hi-Power
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