Yendor357
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There is a new revolver design. Colt beat S&W to the punch. It’s called the Python/Anaconda. You ought to try one.
Time For New Revolver Design?
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Sistema1927
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If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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The new Pythons still aren't as good as a Smith, but they did improve them a good bit by copying Smith's design of the cylinder stop.
I first saw a Rhino on the SCi-Fi show "The Expanse". The detective on Ceres carried one. Made sense it was a revolver, throws no brass into the air, recoils straight back, allowing the shooter to recover and shoot again. In low gravity, it makes sense. Space Force handgun?
BECAUSE OF LAWYERS........Their lawyers.
Not modern.......They just put the barrel on the bottom.......With a revolving cylinder the barrel could be placed anywhere on the frame.
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That's not a new design, just a new manufacturer. It's mainly copied from S&W except for the coil mainspring, that many others have.
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Don't forget the Mateba!
I'd be happy with refinements in QA/QC and a 9mm revolver with a 9mm length cylinder vs a .38/357 cylinder modified for 9mm. It would be shorter, resulting in a more compact revolver.
I'd be happy with refinements in QA/QC and a 9mm revolver with a 9mm length cylinder vs a .38/357 cylinder modified for 9mm. It would be shorter, resulting in a more compact revolver.
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Mr Emilio Ghisoni changed the revolver concept, and, remember, the Rhino was born from his project. The Mateba 6Unica! Alas it is too expensive to produce, and it still remains a style exercise, anyway. I have it, I live 10 miles from the original (and disappeared) factory, and I can guarantee it is a jewel.
Mr Emilio Ghisoni changed the revolver concept, and, remember, the Rhino was born from his project. The Mateba 6Unica! Alas it is too expensive to produce, and it still remains a style exercise, anyway. I have it, I live 10 miles from the original (and disappeared) factory, and I can guarantee it is a jewel.
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By “aren’t as good as a Smith”, please elaborate. All S&W revolvers have a better single action trigger than the new Pythons and Anacondas. I’ll agree to that all day long.
My gunsmith who Ransome rests all sorts of handguns says the new Colts are across the board more accurate that Smiths. He used to prefer Smiths. I seriously doubt anyone could realistically wear out either an L frame nor a new Python. So I don’t see the superiority there either. Fit and finish, any of my 5 Colts are built nicer than any of my Smiths. The Pythons come with a grip that at least looks like wood. When I stopped buying Smiths years ago, they came with rubber grips. No hilary hole on a Colt. Rear sight that comes on a Colt doesn’t need anything but a droplet of loc-tite.
My gunsmith who Ransome rests all sorts of handguns says the new Colts are across the board more accurate that Smiths. He used to prefer Smiths. I seriously doubt anyone could realistically wear out either an L frame nor a new Python. So I don’t see the superiority there either. Fit and finish, any of my 5 Colts are built nicer than any of my Smiths. The Pythons come with a grip that at least looks like wood. When I stopped buying Smiths years ago, they came with rubber grips. No hilary hole on a Colt. Rear sight that comes on a Colt doesn’t need anything but a droplet of loc-tite.
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The evolution of the revolver is over 500 years old and each new generation has been better than the one before it, but in the last 75-80 years the improvements have been incremental and slower to arrive. It's about reached its ultimate level and trying to reinvent the wheel (gun) like Ghisoni and Chiappa has tried to do has not been very popular or improved a revolver's performance. Ammunition has been the bigger improvement in performance. "Inventing" a new top break is a step backwards and doesn't make the gun any easier to load or unload than the swing-out cylinder.
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The main feature of a double action revolver should be a really good double action trigger pull. Nobody has that out of the box. Smith & Wesson K, L, and N frame guns have the most potential for DA tuning. This is the primary reason Smith is better. ANY gun can have a good single action trigger, that doesn't take much to do.
The Pythons will shoot better groups at 25 yards and beyond with light target loads because of their 1 in 14 twist rate. The Smith will catch up to them with +P or magnum loads with their 1 in 18-3/4 twist rate. The light target loads are not spinning fast enough to remain stabilized at the longer distances in a Smith. A Smith with a well made 1 in 10 twist custom barrel will shoot better groups than a Python.
The Python has always been the best looking revolver ever made. Good looks don't win matches, though. However, most people don't compete, so they have a different set of values.
Those in search of a "really good double action trigger pull" need look no further than the Miculek Spring Kit. It's main claim to fame is the trigger pull weight is whatever you want it to be--although he cautions against going below 7 pounds lest it won't go bang.
The kit comes with the expected two springs, and the instructions. Now if you're like me, and think you have no need whatsoever for instructions on how to replace two springs in a S&W revolver, think again!!
NOTHING would move when I finished the first time around--locked up tighter than Dick's hat band!!
OH, okay---maybe I should have a look at those instructions. It was a worthwhile look. Everything worked as intended the second time around---and it was slicker than greased Owl doo-doo on a brass door knob!!
Ralph Tremaine
The kit comes with the expected two springs, and the instructions. Now if you're like me, and think you have no need whatsoever for instructions on how to replace two springs in a S&W revolver, think again!!
NOTHING would move when I finished the first time around--locked up tighter than Dick's hat band!!
OH, okay---maybe I should have a look at those instructions. It was a worthwhile look. Everything worked as intended the second time around---and it was slicker than greased Owl doo-doo on a brass door knob!!
Ralph Tremaine
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I bought my 6" Ruger Security Six Stainless used in 1976, had too heavy a trigger pull, a Bullseye or Trapper spring set solved that while retaining 100% reliability.
There was the High Standard Crusader revolver which never went into production, those who handled one said it had an excellent action.
There was the High Standard Crusader revolver which never went into production, those who handled one said it had an excellent action.
Pre 2000 works for me.
David Dardick tried that a number of years ago. A magazine-fed revolver. It fell on its face.
John
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