Total Vindication.

[Rob1]

We measure like rational people. When you measure a "pace" as you do I would expect that if I asked how tall you were you'd measure from the ground to as high as you could reach and say that was your "height".

If you want to see the fallacy of how you "measure" a "pace" take 10 "paces" and measure the actual distance you covered...

I do think you shot the groups shown before the video vanished but at 60 yds at most, or more likely, less.

is my way of measuring what is now in question?? outside edge to outside edge, just like the way i measure my groups.

not centre of hole to centre of hole or middle of foot to middle of foot.

10 Large Paces Back heel to leading toe.

 

[trebor127]

Mark what size shoes are you forget the tape measure....

just measure the length of 1 shoe and then go heel to toe haha

X number of steps with your shoe length.....simple eh

keith

 

[tomcatt51]

is my way of measuring what is now in question??

Yes. Take ten "paces" and measure how far that actually is. From where you started to where you end up. Should be pretty simple for a man with your credentials... Unless you're well over 7 feet tall you aren't traveling 46" per step/pace.

You've demonstrated you can use a tape to measure your group size(s), use one to measure from your muzzle to the target.

 

[cyphertext]

Yes. Take ten "paces" and measure how far that actually is. From where you started to where you end up. Should be pretty simple for a man with your credentials... Unless you're well over 7 feet tall you aren't traveling 46" per step/pace.

You've demonstrated you can use a tape to measure your group size(s), use one to measure from your muzzle to the target.

He did that... and then edited it for some reason. He took 10 paces for a total of 384 inches.. or 38.4 inches per pace. Far cry from 46" reported above.

 

[tomcatt51]

He did that... and then edited it for some reason. He took 10 paces for a total of 384 inches.. or 38.4 inches per pace. Far cry from 46" reported above.

Missed that. I would say 38.4" is still going to be an unrealistically long "pace" in the terrain his video showed. Not difficult on pavement for a long legged or tall person but on un-even terrain...

SIMPLE SOLUTION: Take a tape measure and ACTUALLY MEASURE the distance to the target.

 

[Rob1]

He being me did indeed. Intended to go to field and " measure" 10 large paces on the actual field instead of in my garden. So as to provide proper and correct measurements " on the ground"

Though TBH I am at The point were I am getting bored trying to appease every minute detail of what I have done. I have seen nothing like this amount of supporting evidence supplied by any one for any thing anywhere.

All the so called experts show no credentials, other than a tick in a profile box. People quote manuals for information guidance like its gospel. No challenge made. I show targets, video and measurements and get accused of everything imaginable.

I ask this question to all the doubters or non believes, if I said I was a male is that disputed? If I say I can shoot is that not to be believed ? I have provided what I have been asked for and then some. So I say this to all you guys that want me to PROVE further, jump on an airplane, fly to the UK and come visit. Accompany me to the fields I shoot and come see for yourselves. If you can't or won't so be it.

Post YOUR proof with targets AND videos showing range and UNSUPPORTED shooting and if it's comparable or better beers and steaks will be on me.

For me to put up has been done. For you it's now put up or shut up time

I am now pulling my reserve and popping my capewells.

 

[Rob1]

Mark what size shoes are you forget the tape measure....

just measure the length of 1 shoe and then go heel to toe haha

X number of steps with your shoe length.....simple eh

keith

Keith

You would think pics and vid would be enough but clearly not eh. This is TBH doing my head in. I am meant to take everyone's word for what they spout yet I just don't seem to get an end to this.

Think next time I wanna prove something to some one I will just bite my lip and say nothing. Clearly us Brits were never able to shoot or even count footsteps for that matter.

I have over the years met and made friends with many septics in service and NONE have need so pedantic. Am beginning to think I should just get rid of it all and take up golf. Less hassle. Lol.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

We've about covered it all here.