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This b.s. of waiting until an item arrives until you ship, is unacceptable. Perhaps it's some sort of mistrust of new forum members, but I definitely will not be offering trades here in the future. I am 60 years old and have been wheeling and dealing since before many of you were born. When a trade is agreed upon, you ship ASAP, as fast as possible. It's common courtesy.

I offered a couple of trades here BECAUSE I am new, and I hoped to get acquainted with people.

Sorry for the rant, but it's a bit of a disappointment.
 
I’m willing to bet that the average age here is 60. So your not even close.

As far as trading and or selling/buying here, you won’t find a better place to so. The moderators keep a close eye out and problems are very few.

If you don’t like the way someone does business, move on to the next.
 
Kanewpadle said:
I’m willing to bet that the average age here is 60. So your not even close.

As far as trading and or selling/buying here, you won’t find a better place to so. The moderators keep a close eye out and problems are very few.

If you don’t like the way someone does business, move on to the next.
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My point is that I'm not some child playing on a new forum, so there is no reason to wait to see if I'm going to ship, before shipping your end of the trade.

But your response pretty much sums up what I was thinking - I'm a newbie and I should shut up or move on. Thanks for confirming.
 
runscott said:
My point is that I'm not some child playing on a new forum, so there is no reason to wait to see if I'm going to ship, before shipping your end of the trade.

But your response pretty much sums up what I was thinking - I'm a newbie and I should shut up or move on. Thanks for confirming.
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No sir. You got it wrong. If you want things to be difficult, they will be. What I said was fact. Nothing personal.

Just relax and try again. There are nothing but good people here. If you give up so easily, it’s your loss.
 
And I was ready to comment that I was in automotive. :D
 
runscott said:
My point is that I'm not some child playing on a new forum . . .
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The only thing I know for sure is that your username is runscott, and you have the ability to participate in an online forum. Everything else is a mystery . . .

(Edit: Well, not everything. In a fairly recent post, you admitted that you had no idea how to lube a S&W revolver, and then confirmed that describing your process. Seems odd for someone who's been trading revolvers for several decades, but it's good that you're trying to learn . . . )

runscott said:
I just recently cleaned and lubed an old 1955 revolver that arrived in a neglected state. I cleaned the barrel and chambers with bore cleaner first. I was not sure where to lube, so I put a drop in each area where metal was interacting with other metal: down the channel in front of the hammer, behind and in front of the trigger/trigger lever, in front of the cylinder where the rod inserts, behind the cylinder between the extractor and the cylinder. I repeated the cylinder-area lubing after soaking the cylinder in Hoppe's 9 bore cleaner to help remove crud I didn't get the first time.

Everything seems great, but should I re-lube every time I shoot, when I'm doing my normal post-range cleaning? (I haven't been).

I ask these questions mainly because I picked up three additional old revolvers yesterday and I want to establish good habits. I really enjoy cleaning my revolvers, so I don't want to succumb to over-cleaning.
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Muss Muggins said:
The only thing I know for sure is that your username is runscott, and you have the ability to participate in an online forum. Everything else is a mystery . . .

(Edit: Well, not everything. In a fairly recent post, you admitted that you had no idea how to lube a S&W revolver, and then confirmed that describing your process. Seems odd for someone who's been trading revolvers for several decades, but it's good that you're trying to learn . . . )
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Since your busy editing your posts and researching my posts, for the purpose of adding additional snarky comments, let's go with your last edit job. You said I claimed to be trading REVOLVERS for several decades. Where in the world did you come up with that? I've been dealing in antique photographs and pre-wwii sports memorabilia for decades, and am new to antique revolvers.
 
Regarding the lubing, I clearly stated what I did and I asked for advice. You gave none. Yet now you want to flaunt my asking for advice as something foolish. If your goal is to keep anyone who isn't as knowledgeable as yourself from asking for advice, you have accomplished it.

I will go back to lurking and you can climb back on your pedestal.
 
soFlaNative said:
Work it out beforehand.
Don't like the terms, don't do the deal.
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You are correct. I made some assumptions and shouldn't have. I apologize for starting this thread, but it's done now so I'll close out my end of it.

I'm new, no one knows me, and I see the wisdom of going back to taking information quietly in the background and keeping my opinions to myself. As the Missouri man pointed out, I don't know enough about revolvers, so basically I'm of little use here. Thanks for all the information and I will continue to use your forum as a resource. If I still have questions I'll ask the local gunsmiths.
 
When I buy sell or trade, mostly by, I am far more worried about dealing with a person who is new on the forum. If they have been a longtime member and have a decent thread count. I don't worry at all. If some one is a problem they usually don't stick around that long.

Any way some one with say 100 post offering to trade and wants me to stick say a $1000 gun in the mail to him, when I don't know squat about him, I am going to take some convincing.

Sorry, you got upset. There are some really great people here. Stick around and let us get to know you and you know us. I have had members here ship me all kind of stuff on my word and I have shipped before payment to. Not to everyone mind you.

As far *** wheeling and dealing before most of us were born. LOL I would bet the average age around here is over 60. Lotta of old guys here.
 
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You deal with a lot of personalities on this or any other hobby specific forum. The one thing that seems to prevail on this forum is honesty. I used to do a lot of selling or trading here but it's been years. If it's something I'm selling/trading for $50 or so and I get a buyer I'll mail it ASAP because I just want to get the ball rollin. That way payment to me and my item to buyer will hopefully pass each other in the mail. That way the deal could be complete in 7-10 days as opposed to 14-18 days if I wait for payment to send my item. I could be dead in 14-18 days.
 
runscott said:
Since your busy editing your posts and researching my posts, for the purpose of adding additional snarky comments, let's go with your last edit job. You said I claimed to be trading REVOLVERS for several decades. Where in the world did you come up with that? I've been dealing in antique photographs and pre-wwii sports memorabilia for decades, and am new to antique revolvers.
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Duly noted. My bad. Since we're on a gun forum, I proceeded to make a poor assumption. Actually, several . . .
 
Wow! Go back and reread your posts in this thread. I'd be leery of dealing with you based solely on the attitude displayed.

I've bought and sold here for years. I've also given items to other members looking for them and have received generous gifts as well.

I've yet to discover a finer group of folks than is gathered on this forum.
 
runscott said:
You are correct. I made some assumptions and shouldn't have. I apologize for starting this thread, but it's done now so I'll close out my end of it.

I'm new, no one knows me, and I see the wisdom of going back to taking information quietly in the background and keeping my opinions to myself. As the Missouri man pointed out, I don't know enough about revolvers, so basically I'm of little use here. Thanks for all the information and I will continue to use your forum as a resource. If I still have questions I'll ask the local gunsmiths.
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We’re not trying to run you out of here by any means. We want you to stay. The more the better.

Read Steelslayers post. He said it best.
 
YEARS ago I sold a gal a like new tailgate for a '63 Ford pickup that her father purchased from a small county fire department that he retired from as chief.

When I called her and told her I had shipped it she said, "You don't even have my check yet - how do you know I'll pay you?"

I told her it was called trust, something that I believe I have become very good at recognizing in others. I trust my gut feelings.

Some people you feel good about and some you don't. Its a judgement call and something I don't think you can fault for.

I don't think you can trust everyone just because they are forum members.
 
runscott, there have been some very good posts in this thread explaining my thoughts on the matter like steelslaver's and rubiranch's posts. To me, it also matters in the price of the article in question too. If I an selling something that isn't too pricey and the buyer is someone I have interacted with on these forums, I will ship on word alone. Something more expensive, say $300-500, I still might ship before receiving payment too, but I will want voice contact with the person first. If it's something more than $1,000, it would have to be one extraordinary person for me to ship before receiving payment, as I work hard for the money I devote to my gun passion and losing $1,000 or more would hurt badly on my gun and component buying.

Another tell for me if I am selling something and someone asks if I will ship concurrently with the money is how they have interacted on the forums. I've seen posts in the Classifieds by members who have been members for years but have 20-30 posts or maybe even less, and those would not qualify in my book to do a concurrent shipping sale. All they are here for is the Classifieds and that is cool, but I have no sense of who they are or if they are trustworthy. Someone like you, who is a contributing member of these forums I would trust a lot more as I can look at your posts and get a sense of your morals and your personality.

Anyways, don't let it get to you if someone requires your to send payment first. For most it's nothing personal, just sound business practice.
 
I don't have a horse in this race but will say I have bought and sold items here without ever a problem. Like others have said, depending on value whether or not I ship on agreement alone. Once I have dealt with someone once I don't have a problem shipping on word alone, plus you normally can tell the quality of a person by reading his or her posts. As a rule the mods keep a pretty good eye on things around here. Hope you'll hang around and get acquainted with these folks.
 
I always try to ship an item (whether trading or selling) as soon as I can get to the post office.

My thought is this:
If I am selling something to you for $50, we both have a $50 liability.
The item I am selling is worth the same amount as your $50 bill. Why should I ask you to ship your $50 before I ship mine? We are both on the hook for exactly the same amount and my money is not worth any more than yours, and vice versa.

In the past, when buying, I have asked for verification that the seller has the item that he says he has, once with a new member and once with a large purchase. Neither seller had a problem doing it.

Bottom line, hammer out the details beforehand and if something seems wrong or you can’t agree, don’t do it.
 
You'll never find a better bunch of folks to trade, wheel and deal with. No longer than I've been around, it's apparent, a public shaming will behead any dishonest traders here.

In the process of making my first trade on the forum ...a very generous member has sent my two magazines for a vintage pistol...I stated I would keep my only magazine in this new to me pistol until I received his.... so I could shoot it till then... there was no malice intended...and for his kind gesture.... I'm reimbursing his shipping costs.:)

Stick around OP....it's a library of unselfish knowledge here.
 
Ματθιας;140303236 said:
OP, just an observation, but based on this and your other threads about the problems you're having with online gun sales and trades, and being, well, frankly, thin skinned, perhaps internet commerce concerning firearms isn't for you.
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He/she has a fairly detailed website dealing with selling various art, postcards, historical artifacts, things that must be independently graded/evaluated, etc. He mentions on the site that he doesn’t describe condition so as to avoid arguments. If you buy it and don’t like it, tough noogies. You might get your money back, minus the grading fee that you had to front to prove you got screwed. My guess is that he/she ain’t gonna like the firearm trade . . .
 
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Muss Muggins said:
He/she has a fairly detailed website dealing with selling various art, postcards, historical artifacts, things that must be independently graded/evaluated, etc. He mentions on the site that he doesn’t describe condition so as to avoid arguments. If you buy it and don’t like it, tough noogies. You might get your money back, minus the grading fee that you had to front to prove you got screwed.
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If that's true, and I have no reason to doubt you, that's messed up!

Muss Muggins said:
My guess is that he/she ain’t gonna like the firearm trade . . .
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I agree. From just the few posts i've read, and if the OP is being offended by people who are actually trying to help him, he's not going to like it at all.
 
Now even eBay and Amazon offers a two day shipment. One must negotiate when the shipment will take place. when I sell something I wait till the check/mo clears at my bank. I move as fast as the buyer sends me his check.
 
I have about 275 A+ ratings on gunbroker as both a buyer and a seller. Sites like gb protect you from fraud from the scamming buyers and sellers. I much prefer to do business here on a forum like this where you can see what the buyers/sellers are like from their posts. I almost always contact the the other half of the transaction with a phone call first, on either end, buying or selling, just so I know who I am really dealing with. I can't think of a time that it was not more than worthwhile, with more story telling and b/s than I ever imagined. The amount of friends you meet by either face to face, or over the phone is invaluable. Relax, have a drink or two and stick around..you might find out that we all may be a bunch of truth stretchers, or occasionally tear tags off of mattresses, but we ain't a bunch of crooks..
 
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