Doug M.
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That was the point. LEO was a dullard who should have been detailed to the replica gun squad.
Traffic Stop
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It seems there is so many of those. They normally end up as SGT's or Executives.
I have many co-workers I wouldn't trust with sharp eating utensils.
trauma1
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#1: dont go under yellow lights.
#2:dont offer info you dont need to.
Police officers dont care about permits. There is a reason they carry a gun. Alot of speculation in the replies. How many of them carried a badge everyday? Cops definitely have a reason to be a little jumpy with or without a permit in hand. Unless you live in a state that says you must inform, dont. Makes for a better transaction. We are law abiding citizens rights? Apparently not if you got lit up and pulled over.
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#2:dont offer info you dont need to.
Police officers dont care about permits. There is a reason they carry a gun. Alot of speculation in the replies. How many of them carried a badge everyday? Cops definitely have a reason to be a little jumpy with or without a permit in hand. Unless you live in a state that says you must inform, dont. Makes for a better transaction. We are law abiding citizens rights? Apparently not if you got lit up and pulled over.
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Hock
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I prefer the INFORM route over not telling them. Last thing I want is their gun in my face because they see my pistol(s) during a traffic stop or some other legal interaction.
I have twice declared concealed weapons and twice I had NO PROBLEM with the officer, one of them being today as I managed to inadvertently trespass on federal prison property. The first time was a state trooper, he did take my pistol but it was for his safety until he was done giving me a $110.00 ticket for speeding. At no time have I had issues or problems with law enforcement, then again the first thing I do after first interaction is declare my weapon.
These videos you see on the internet are in typically bating police into a confrontation or people not declaring their weapon from the beginning like they should regardless if they are required to or not. If the officer is being an *** then be as professional as possible and deal with him through his superiors later. If I would've acted like I see some of the YouTube hero's I would have been arrested for both trespassing and federal weapons crime since I was concealed on federal property.
Basically what I'm trying to say is keep your cool, declare your weapon(s) and fully cooperate with police and give them the utmost respect regardless of how they treat you. If they get out of line the law will take care of them.
I have twice declared concealed weapons and twice I had NO PROBLEM with the officer, one of them being today as I managed to inadvertently trespass on federal prison property. The first time was a state trooper, he did take my pistol but it was for his safety until he was done giving me a $110.00 ticket for speeding. At no time have I had issues or problems with law enforcement, then again the first thing I do after first interaction is declare my weapon.
These videos you see on the internet are in typically bating police into a confrontation or people not declaring their weapon from the beginning like they should regardless if they are required to or not. If the officer is being an *** then be as professional as possible and deal with him through his superiors later. If I would've acted like I see some of the YouTube hero's I would have been arrested for both trespassing and federal weapons crime since I was concealed on federal property.
Basically what I'm trying to say is keep your cool, declare your weapon(s) and fully cooperate with police and give them the utmost respect regardless of how they treat you. If they get out of line the law will take care of them.
JFootin
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panhandle, did you ever find out what the law says about them taking your gun like that? These state laws already have cleared you to carry a concealed weapon. When they ask you to give up that weapon, it is like they are saying they don't really respect your rights.
HereSinceTheLongHunters
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I'd rather err on the side of respect for the LEO.. to help take a few degrees of tension out of the stop. Sounds like there are more than a few "Barneys" out there, but the CPL/CCW gives you a cleared legal status to carry. I think its also wise to drive a bit more on the conservative side when carrying. Your response and attitude often has a lot to do with how things turn out. Also appreciated the advice we got in CPL class about NOT storing a fire arm in the glove box with your insurance and registration!!
feralmerril
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About every person a warden encounters is armed especialy durring hunting season. While probley a few have been killed in the last 100 years its super rare.
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Ive always thought that could be a very stressful job at times... but they are usually not the ones pulling people over in the middle of the night or walking into dark alley ways looking for bad guys either.
The genius that took the gun from the owner evidently knocked off the safety on the 1911, thinking it was a decocker lever.... as I would imagine it was being carried "locked and cocked" and the cop had no clue it was a safety lever and not a decocker lever.
so now the genius is holding a 1911 with one up and no safety on.
Good thing he didn't touch one off into the guys head.
Bumped into another car in a parking lot. College student in parent's car far from home. His parents wanted a police report, understandable. LE showed up, did investigation and issued me a ticket. First in many years.
I forgot I was carrying. LEO didn't say anything, I didn't say anything, Not required in FL. End of story.
I forgot I was carrying. LEO didn't say anything, I didn't say anything, Not required in FL. End of story.
Jeffersonwasright
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Florida issues tickets for fender benders on private property? Screw them, trade ID and scram.
snowden312
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Traffic stop
In my ccdw class my teacher told to us that when you show your ccdw license to an officer in a traffic stop never pull your firearm off your side even if he asks you. He said this could lead to many other problems if you put your hand on that firearm. I will always decline because I don't want to put my hand on my weapon in front of the police officer cause you never know how things will turn out.
In my ccdw class my teacher told to us that when you show your ccdw license to an officer in a traffic stop never pull your firearm off your side even if he asks you. He said this could lead to many other problems if you put your hand on that firearm. I will always decline because I don't want to put my hand on my weapon in front of the police officer cause you never know how things will turn out.
I'm all for anything that keeps the officer safe and happy. They have a tough job.
And therefore, why tell him I have a gun? It's CONCEALED. He isn't going to see it. It seems the only time they are going to get excited is when you tell them you have a gun. Then they ask where it is, keep your hands away, give me the weapon, step out of the car, I have to run this number, etc. etc. etc.
If I am asked to get out of my vehicle then I will inform the officer I have a weapon and what would you like me to do with it?
I want the least amount of excitement I can get. If the officer doesn't know I have a weapon he isn't going to worry about it.
And therefore, why tell him I have a gun? It's CONCEALED. He isn't going to see it. It seems the only time they are going to get excited is when you tell them you have a gun. Then they ask where it is, keep your hands away, give me the weapon, step out of the car, I have to run this number, etc. etc. etc.
If I am asked to get out of my vehicle then I will inform the officer I have a weapon and what would you like me to do with it?
I want the least amount of excitement I can get. If the officer doesn't know I have a weapon he isn't going to worry about it.
I agree. Even in a "shall inform" state, I'm waiting to inform until and only if the officer asks me to step out of the vehicle (or if the officer asks if there are any weapons in the car)
I have the utmost respect for law enforcement officers, but my privacy and safety is my top priority when pulled over. I want them to go home safely, as well as me.
Other than "throwing" your gun onto the passenger seat what's the issue? It took 10 minutes of your time and you were cut loose with a warning. Yes, I agree throwing the gun is a bit rude, not to mention poor gun handling.
A traffic stop is a lawful detention and a LEO has the authority to secure any weapons for the duration of the encounter. The Trooper was being polite by asking instead of telling.
On a personal note, I tend to leave guns were they are on stops depending on the circumstances. However, I know many officers that will run the serial number of all guns they encounter through NCIC to confirm its not stolen.
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MH8675309
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But officer the light was yellow,
Quote from Elwood durring a traffic stop
Quote from Elwood durring a traffic stop
TexasArmed
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I was recently stopped for a headlight out, local police officer. I pulled over, rolled my window down, kept my hands on the steering wheel. Texas is a must inform state and I was under the impression that it would be an offense if I failed to inform. So immediately as he arrive at my window I said to him, "Officer I am required to inform you that I have a concealed handgun license and I am carrying." In fact I was carrying two. He said to me your headlight is out and some other conversation, but did not issue me a warning and did not ask me to present the chl, nor the license nor to look at my handguns. I have my billfold in my right front pocket so I did not want to reach for anything till he asked me to.
MaximumLawman
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Does TX law state that legally-carried guns can be seized? If not, under what authority can you seize a legally-carried gun on a traffic stop without any reasonable suspicion to believe the carrier is dangerous? I only ask because in my state, the statute does not say anything about the police being allowed to seize a legally-carried gun on a traffic stop that has nothing to do with the guy being dangerous.
It's not for the officers' safety, it's for yours. Some legal gun carriers forget they're carrying a gun and then reach for their wallet right where their gun is. The law requiring you to announce is so that the police officer doesn't have to do a bunch more paperwork on a simple traffic stop after he drills you when he thought you were going for a gun.
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