Trailer: Dark Tower

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I'm putting this in 1980 & Newer since this is either contemporary or future - I think. Here's the trailer...

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjwfqXTebIY[/ame]

Within the first 8 seconds the protagonist reloads two revolvers, using moon clips, in a way that Jerry Miculek could only dream of.

When I first saw this, I thought the guns looked like some kind of hybrid between a black powder revolver and a hand ejector - but on closer examination these may have started out as some kind of PC cun with the tapered ejector rod shroud. Isn't there a site for movie weapons?

Enjoy.

Adios,

Pizza Bob
 
The Dark Tower is what killed my admiration of Stephen King. Six very thick volumes, all with heavy references to his other books (an irritating King habit), and at the end of the last book, the protagonist walks through a door and the story starts all over. At that moment, as one who has read every single thing King has ever written, I realized that King only really has one story, although I was impressed by how large it was. I was disappointed by how effortless it seemed, after dedicating 40 years to his writing . . .
 
The Dark Tower is what killed my admiration of Stephen King. Six very thick volumes, all with heavy references to his other books (an irritating King habit), and at the end of the last book, the protagonist walks through a door and the story starts all over. At that moment, as one who has read every single thing King has ever written, I realized that King only really has one story, although I was impressed by how large it was. I was disappointed by how effortless it seemed, after dedicating 40 years to his writing . . .

Exactly my experience as well even though I haven't read all of his books. After the first 10-12 I realized it was basically the same stories over and over again, much of it clichéd. He's also notoriously anti-gun in real life, which doesn't incline me to give him any money (even if I did enjoy this trailer).
 
Looks a bit too intense for me, but I have enjoyed seeing Idris Elba play Det. John Luther on PBS.
 
The Dark Tower is what killed my admiration of Stephen King. Six very thick volumes, all with heavy references to his other books (an irritating King habit), and at the end of the last book, the protagonist walks through a door and the story starts all over. At that moment, as one who has read every single thing King has ever written, I realized that King only really has one story, although I was impressed by how large it was. I was disappointed by how effortless it seemed, after dedicating 40 years to his writing . . .

Exactly my experience as well even though I haven't read all of his books. After the first 10-12 I realized it was basically the same stories over and over again, much of it clichéd. He's also notoriously anti-gun in real life, which doesn't incline me to give him any money (even if I did enjoy this trailer).


The Dark Tower killed it for me with Seven King too. I never knew it was a multi part book, got to the end and was???

Before that I was like a kid in a candy store when he would release a new book.

Shouldn't this be in another section?
 
After pausing the video at 1 second, it appears that the two revolvers shown are Remington 1858 New Army revolvers, or some variant of that flavor. It also appears to be the same revolvers shown seconds later with the "moon clip reload" as well, and appears to be a bit of computer trickery, including the swing out cylinder. My guess is that they are Pietta replicas with some Hollywood dressing.
 
I didn't mean this to be a critic's corner for King - I gave up on him long before the Dark Tower. Just thought you'd like to see some Hollywood trickery with guns.

Adios,

Pizza Bob
 
Perhaps the movie will prove to be more favorable to me than the books.

Same as several of you posted before me, I had never missed reading one of Stephen King's books; but when I came up against this one, my interest waned,...and has only returned a time or two.

My first, many years ago now, was Salem's Lot. late at night on vacation lying in bed. I was afraid to put my feet on the floor for a snack break, and afraid to look under the bed to make sure it was safe.

It's odd how I, (we), will sometimes judge an author's work, by the author himself. That is to say, the actions of the person in real life sometimes prevents, or encourages, me to buy their written work.
 
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Yes I'm a fan of Stephen King's writing, especially 11/22/63. Haven't read them all but many. Not a fan of his political or gun views. That said I got into the Dark Tower series late and was able to read all 7 books one after another and I thought they were great. Yes the ending was not what I expected or wanted but that Stephen King.
 
Enjoyed the "series" however I am sure the movie will fall WAY short of the books.




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I didn't mean this to be a critic's corner for King...

Well, as long as you aren't surprised that it turned into one...
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I read some King books long ago. Too tedious for me, so I stopped. I felt most of them could have been shrunken down to novellas without any loss in the plotline if 90% of the useless content was removed. I have seen most of the movies and TV shows based on his books, but that doesn't make me much a fan. Some really horrible movies, some so-so, none good. So much for my ability as a movie critic.
 
I tried reading the Dark Tower series, lost interest after the first couple books. It got rather tedious, and with all the switching back and forth between time periods technology levels got confusing.
 
I do not care for Stephen King's work, generally speaking, but I think the introduction, "On Being Nineteen," written in 2003, to Dark Tower 1: The Gunslinger, is an outstanding piece of writing:

INTRODUCTION

On Being Nineteen

(and a Few Other Things)



I

Hobbits were big when I was nineteen (a number of some import in the stories you are about to read).

There were probably half a dozen Merrys and Pippins slogging through the mud at Max Yasgur’s farm during the Great Woodstock Music Festival, twice as many Frodos, and hippie Gandalfs without number. J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings was madly popular in those days, and while I never made it to Woodstock (say sorry), I suppose I was at least a halfling-hippie. Enough of one, at any rate, to have read the books and fallen in love with them. The Dark Tower books, like most long fantasy tales written by men and women of my generation (The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, by Stephen Donaldson, and The Sword of Shannara, by Terry Brooks, are just two of many), were born out of Tolkien’s.

But although I read the books in 1966 and 1967, I held off writing. I responded (and with rather touching wholeheartedness) to the sweep of Tolkien’s imagination—to the ambition of his story—but I wanted to write my own kind of story, and had I started then, I would have written his. That, as the late Tricky Dick Nixon was fond of saying, would have been wrong. Thanks to Mr. Tolkien, the twentieth century had all the elves and wizards it needed.

In 1967, I didn’t have any idea what my kind of story might be, but that didn’t matter; I felt positive I’d know it when it passed me on the street. I was nineteen and arrogant. Certainly arrogant enough to feel I could wait a little while on my muse and my masterpiece (as I was sure it would be). At nineteen, it seems to me, one has a right to be arrogant; time has usually not begun its stealthy and rotten subtractions. It takes away your hair and your jump-shot, according to a popular country song, but in truth it takes away a lot more than that. I didn’t know it in 1966 and ‘67, and if I had, I wouldn’t have cared. I could imagine—barely—being forty, but fifty? No. Sixty? Never! Sixty was out of the question. And at nineteen, that’s just the way to be. Nineteen is the age where you say Look out, world, I’m smokin’TNT and I’m drinkin’ dynamite, so if you know what’s good for ya, get out of my way—here comes Stevie.

Nineteen’s a selfish age and finds one’s cares tightly circumscribed. I had a lot of reach, and I cared about that. I had a lot of ambition, and I cared about that. I had a typewriter that I carried from one ****hole apartment to the next, always with a deck of smokes in my pocket and a smile on my face. The compromises of middle age were distant, the insults of old age over the horizon. Like the protagonist in that Bob Seger song they now use to sell the trucks, I felt endlessly powerful and endlessly optimistic; my pockets were empty, but my head was full of things I wanted to say and my heart was full of stories I wanted to tell. Sounds corny now; felt wonderful then. Felt very cool. More than anything else I wanted to get inside my readers’ defenses, wanted to rip them and ravish them and change them forever with nothing but story. And I felt I could do those things. I felt I had been made to do those things.

How conceited does that sound? A lot or a little? Either way, I don’t apologize. I was nineteen. There was not so much as a strand of gray in my beard. I had three pairs of jeans, one pair of boots, the idea that the world was my oyster, and nothing that happened in the next twenty years proved me wrong. Then, around the age of thirty-nine, my troubles set in: drink, drugs, a road accident that changed the way I walked (among other things). I’ve written about them at length and need not write about them here. Besides, it’s the same for you, right? The world eventually sends out a mean-*** Patrol Boy to slow your progress and show you who’s boss. You reading this have undoubtedly met yours (or will); I met mine, and I’m sure he’ll be back. He’s got my address. He’s a mean guy, a Bad Lieutenant, the sworn enemy of goofery, ****ery, pride, ambition, loud music, and all things nineteen.

But I still think that’s a pretty fine age. Maybe the best age. You can rock and roll all night, but when the music dies out and the beer wears off, you’re able to think. And dream big dreams. The mean Patrol Boy cuts you down to size eventually, and if you start out small, why, there’s almost nothing left but the cuffs of your pants when he’s done with you. “Got another one!” he shouts, and strides on with his citation book in his hand. So a little arrogance (or even a lot) isn’t such a bad thing, although your mother undoubtedly told you different. Mine did. Pride goeth before a fall, Stephen, she said... and then I found out—right around the age that is 19 x 2—that eventually you fall down, anyway. Or get pushed into the ditch. At nineteen they can card you in the bars and tell you to get the **** out, put your sorry act (and sorrier ***) back on the street, but they can’t card you when you sit down to paint a picture, write a poem, or tell a story, by God, and if you reading this happen to be very young, don’t let your elders and supposed betters tell you any different. Sure, you’ve never been to Paris. No, you never ran with the bulls at Pamplona. Yes, you’re a pissant who had no hair in your armpits until three years ago—but so what? If you don’t start out too big for your britches, how are you gonna fill ‘em when you grow up? Let it rip regardless of what anybody tells you, that’s my idea; sit down and smoke that baby.



II

I think novelists come in two types, and that includes the sort of fledgling novelist I was by 1970. Those who are bound for the more literary or “serious” side of the job examine every possible subject in light of this question: What would writing this sort of story mean to me? Those whose destiny (or ka, if you like) is to include the writing of popular novels are apt to ask a very different one: What would writing this sort of story mean to others? The “serious” novelist is looking for answers and keys to the self; the “popular” novelist is looking for an audience. Both kinds of writer are equally selfish. I’ve known a good many, and will set my watch and warrant upon it.

Anyway, I believe that even at the age of nineteen, I recognized the story of Frodo and his efforts to rid himself of the One Great Ring as one belonging to the second group. They were the adventures of an essentially British band of pilgrims set against a backdrop of vaguely Norse mythology. I liked the idea of the quest—loved it, in fact—but I had no interest in either Tolkien’s sturdy peasant characters (that’s not to say I didn’t like them, because I did) or his bosky Scandinavian settings. If I tried going in that direction, I’d get it all wrong.

So I waited. By 1970 I was twenty-two, the first strands of gray had showed up in my beard (I think smoking two and a half packs of Pall Malls a day probably had something to do with that), but even at twenty-two, one can afford to wait. At twenty-two, time is still on one’s side, although even then that bad old Patrol Boy’s in the neighborhood and asking questions.

Then, in an almost completely empty movie theater (the Bijou, in Bangor, Maine, if it matters), I saw a film directed by Sergio Leone. It was called The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, and before the film was even half over, I realized that what I wanted to write was a novel that contained Tolkien’s sense of quest and magic but set against Leone’s almost absurdly majestic Western backdrop. If you’ve only seen this gonzo Western on your television screen, you don’t understand what I’m talking about—cry your pardon, but it’s true. On a movie screen, projected through the correct Panavision lenses, TG, TB, & TU is an epic to rival Ben-Hur. Clint Eastwood appears roughly eighteen feet tall, with each wiry jut of stubble on his cheeks looking roughly the size of a young redwood tree. The grooves bracketing Lee Van Cleef’s mouth are as deep as canyons, and there could be a thinny (see Wizard and Glass) at the bottom of each one. The desert settings appear to stretch at least out as far as the orbit of the planet Neptune. And the barrel of each gun looks to be roughly as large as the Holland Tunnel.

What I wanted even more than the setting was that feeling of epic, apocalyptic size. The fact that Leone knew jack **** about American geography (according to one of the characters, Chicago is somewhere in the vicinity of Phoenix, Arizona) added to the film’s sense of magnificent dislocation. And in my enthusiasm—the sort only a young person can muster, I think—I wanted to write not just a long book, but the longest popular novel in history. I did not succeed in doing that, but I feel I had a decent rip; The Dark Tower, volumes one through seven, really comprise a single tale, and the first four volumes run to just over two thousand pages in paperback. The final three volumes run another twenty-five hundred in manuscript. I’m not trying to imply here that length has anything whatsoever to do with quality; I’m just saying that I wanted to write an epic, and in some ways, I succeeded. If you were to ask me why I wanted to do that, I couldn’t tell you. Maybe it’s a part of growing up American: build the tallest, dig the deepest, write the longest. And that head-scratching puzzlement when the question of motivation comes up? Seems to me that that is also part of being an American. In the end we are reduced to saying It seemed like a good idea at the time.

III

Another thing about being nineteen, do it please ya: it is the age, I think, where a lot of us somehow get stuck (mentally and emotionally, if not physically). The years slide by and one day you find yourself looking into the mirror with real puzzlement. Why are those lines on my face? you wonder. Where did that stupid potbelly come from? Hell, I’m only nineteen! This is hardly an original concept, but that in no way subtracts from one’s amazement.

Time puts gray in your beard, time takes away your jump-shot, and all the while you’re thinking—silly you—that it’s still on your side. The logical side of you knows better, but your heart refuses to believe it. If you’re lucky, the Patrol Boy who cited you for going too fast and having too much fun also gives you a dose of smelling salts. That was more or less what happened to me near the end of the twentieth century. It came in the form of a Plymouth van that knocked me into the ditch beside a road in my hometown.

About three years after that accident I did a book signing for From a Buick 8 at a Borders store in Dearborn, Michigan. When one guy got to the head of the line, he said he was really, really glad that I was still alive. (I get this a lot, and it beats the **** out of “Why the hell didn’t you die?”)

“I was with this good friend of mine when we heard you got popped,” he said. “Man, we just started shaking our heads and saying ‘There goes the Tower, it’s tilting, it’s falling, ahhh, ****, he’ll never finish it now.’”

A version of the same idea had occurred to me—the troubling idea that, having built the Dark Tower in the collective imagination of a million readers, I might have a responsibility to make it safe for as long as people wanted to read about it. That might be for only five years; for all I know, it might be five hundred. Fantasy stories, the bad as well as the good (even now, someone out there is probably reading Varney the Vampire or The Monk), seem to have long shelf lives. Roland’s way of protecting the Tower is to try to remove the threat to the Beams that hold the Tower up. I would have to do it, I realized after my accident, by finishing the gunslinger’s story.

During the long pauses between the writing and publication of the first four Dark Tower tales, I received hundreds of “pack your bags, we’re going on a guilt trip” letters. In 1998 (when I was laboring under the mistaken impression that I was still basically nineteen, in other words), I got one from an “82-yr-old Gramma, don’t mean to Bother You w/My Troubles BUT!! very Sick These Days.” The Gramma told me she probably had only a year to live (“14 Mo’s at Outside, Cancer all thru Me”), and while she didn’t expect me to finish Roland’s tale in that time just for her, she wanted to know if I couldn’t please (please) just tell her how it came out. The line that wrenched my heart (although not quite enough to start writing again) was her promise to “not tell a Single Soul.” A year later—probably after the accident that landed me in the hospital—one of my assistants, Marsha DiFilippo, got a letter from a fellow on death row in either Texas or Florida, wanting to know essentially the same thing: how does it come out? (He promised to take the secret to the grave with him, which gave me the creeps.)

I would have given both of these folks what they wanted—a summary of Roland’s further adventures—if I could have done, but alas, I couldn’t. I had no idea of how things were going to turn out with the gunslinger and his friends. To know, I have to write. I once had an outline, but I lost it along the way. (It probably wasn’t worth a tin ****, anyway.) All I had was a few notes (“Chussit, chissit, chassit, something-something-basket” reads one lying on the desk as I write this). Eventually, starting in July of 2001, I began to write again. I knew by then I was no longer nineteen, nor exempt from any of the ills to which the flesh is heir. I knew I was going to be sixty, maybe even seventy. And I wanted to finish my story before the bad Patrol Boy came for the last time. I had no urge to be filed away with The Canterbury Tales and The Mystery of Edwin Drood.

The result—for better or worse—lies before you, Constant Reader, whether you reading this are starting with Volume One or are preparing for Volume Five. Like it or hate it, the story of Roland is now done. I hope you enjoy it.

As for me, I had the time of my life.

Stephen King

January 25, 2003

Excerpt: The gunslinger /
 
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There is absolutely no question in my mind that Stephen King is a great writer with an amazing command of the English language. He can evoke moods, places, emotions, like few other contemporary authors.

WHAT he writes about is a different matter entirely.

I've read the "classics" like "It", "The Stand", and "The Tommyknockers" etc., but I just don't have much use for either the fantasy or horror genre. I started the first Dark Tower book and didn't get into it; too far out there topic-wise. Just don't like that stuff. But books and stories that twist reality just enough to be interesting, or are just psychological, are great; I've read "11/22/63" a couple times. And "Dolan's Cadillac" is probably my favorite short story of all time.
 
I read the first few books years ago but never finished the series. The movie looks like they only used the title and the idea that the main character moves between two worlds.

Doesn't look like what I remember from the books, my understanding of "Roland" was that he was lost and learning things as he went along.
 
Maybe the gunslinger will become the Dirty Harry of the 21st century, and you won't be able to find a single action pistol or quick draw rig for the next 10 years.
 
The Dark Tower is what killed my admiration of Stephen King. Six very thick volumes, all with heavy references to his other books (an irritating King habit), and at the end of the last book, the protagonist walks through a door and the story starts all over. At that moment, as one who has read every single thing King has ever written, I realized that King only really has one story, although I was impressed by how large it was. I was disappointed by how effortless it seemed, after dedicating 40 years to his writing . . .

I read most of the earlier novels King wrote but lost interest in his later novels. I think when he went off the drugs his imagination and creativity went south. The Dark Tower was a good example. I started it and never got very far. Earlier stuff like The Stand, Christine, The Dome and others from that time period were great Later stuff, not so much.
 
Doesn't look like what I remember from the books, my understanding of "Roland" was that he was lost and learning things as he went along.

Roland is the last gunslinger in a world that has 'moved on'. His quest starts out looking for the man in black (no NOT Johnny Cash!) and the Dark Tower. Along the way he learns that there are more than one world, and that they are connected/controlled by the Tower. He does encounter things and people along the way that are not from his time, so I guess you could say he learns from them.

At least that's how I remember it. :D
 
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