Transporting alcohol while carrying (not consuming)

[CowboyKen]

I am sure if someone wanted to spend the time to research case law, they would find a host of incidents where someone was injured by another & that person was under the influence, so their judgment was borught into question. So to think it wouldn't come into play for a gun accident or SD shooting that is grey, you are kidding yourself my friend. Having even a single beer puts you ate risk should you be involved in a shooting immediately after. Drinking at all, impairs you. I never met a drunk that didn't believe he could drive fine after drinking.
Here, this took about 3min to find. He didn't even fire a shot. Granted he was publicly drunk, but I think you can get the picture.
Police: Drunken man threatens people with gun Shawn Shoemaker allegedly pulled weapon Tuesday outside Sunoco in Plymouth - Times Leader - timesleader.com

If that is the best case that you could find in answer to my question (quoted below to remind you what I asked) then thank you for making my point. That guy could have been arrested just for being drunk (and obnoxious) in public.

Of course, if you cannot have a drink without turning from Dr. Jekyll into Mr. Hyde you should not drink. But, IMO, this has nothing to do with guns or carrying them.

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So I will ask again does anyone here have case law or other authoritative source to support some of these contentions about how the legal system will treat you if you are involved in a bona fide self defense shooting after you have had an adult beverage? Or any of the other outrageous contentions made above.

Ken

 

[fredj338]

If that is the best case that you could find in answer to my question (quoted below to remind you what I asked) then thank you for making my point. That guy could have been arrested just for being drunk (and obnoxious) in public.

Of course, if you cannot have a drink without turning from Dr. Jekyll into Mr. Hyde you should not drink. But, IMO, this has nothing to do with guns or carrying them.

No, not the best, but all the research time i am willing to put into something i already know. I know what I'll happen should you cause injury to another while having any level of intoxication. You set yourself up for a charge of negligence. I don't care if its gun, car or weed whacker, under the influence is just that. Maybe you should do the research to prove your point since you seem to know better????

 

[CowboyKen]

No, not the best, but all the research time i am willing to put into something i already know. I know what I'll happen should you cause injury to another while having any level of intoxication. You set yourself up for a charge of negligence. I don't care if its gun, car or weed whacker, under the influence is just that. Maybe you should do the research to prove your point since you seem to know better????

OK. The only case I have found, that was relevant, was the NYC detective who shot a guy outside a bar in Queens. The cop was more then a little drunk at the time. Even in NYC it was a good shoot.
MAYOR BLOOMBERG: ?DRUNK? COP ACTED APPROPRIATELY | New York Post

Do you have anything else?

If not I will continue to carry when I go out to dinner with my wife and I will have a glass of wine with my steak.

Ken

 

[ClayCow]

ClayCow, Clearly you have stated your opinion, several times. You were asked if you could back up your opinion with at least one fact. Instead you have restated that opinion.

Thank you for that.

Does anyone else have a FACT that they can provide to support ClayCow's opinion, or one along those lines?

Ken

Yea ken. Read what i wrote. First time was my.opinion, second time was clarification for someone else, not to you.

 

[fredj338]

OK. The only case I have found, that was relevant, was the NYC detective who shot a guy outside a bar in Queens. The cop was more then a little drunk at the time. Even in NYC it was a good shoot.
MAYOR BLOOMBERG: ?DRUNK? COP ACTED APPROPRIATELY | New York Post

Do you have anything else?

If not I will continue to carry when I go out to dinner with my wife and I will have a glass of wine with my steak.

Ken

And that is your choice. As I said, a good shoot, probably not an issue if legal to carry in your state while under the influence. But, get a dodgy shoot, all bets are off & you just gave the other side another wedge against you. I would bet zimmerman's case would have had a Diff outcome if he had a couple beers before his stroll in the complex & confrontation. By all means, do as you like, but stop demanding others to justify being responsible.
Sd shootings are pretty rare, rarer still in public. The vast majority of ccw I know will not drink & carry. Could be why you really can't find prosecutorial proof either way. Drunk cop getting off, not surprising, diff rules for connected people.

 

[CowboyKen]

... By all means, do as you like, but stop demanding others to justify being responsible.
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I do not demand that others do, or not do, anything. Certainly those who choose not to drink are OK with me. I do wish they would stop telling the rest of us that we are horrible people because we may have an occasional adult beverage.

I also ask those that insist that I will go to Hell or to prison if they can back that up with more then an opinion. Am I wrong to do that?

Ken

 

[fredj338]

Never mind.