Trigger change

[MLB8]

I have a .40 /.357sig (currently in .357sig configuration) and a .45 that are my primary daily CC choices, both are mid-size M&P's and I'm looking for some experienced based opinions pertaining to the trigger on both. To be honest I don't really have any issues with either weapon, but have been told by many fellow owners at the GC a trigger change would make a world of difference in accuracy in both. Hence my dilemma so to speak, I can consistantly obtain a more than acceptable to myself 3 1\2 - 4" pattern from the 25-30 yard supported scenario, I"ve definitely put twice as many rds DR with the .357sig vs the .45, but still probably +500 rds minimun with the .45.

My question is........from personal experience of fellow M&P owners, what info can I ascertain on trigger swaps on the M&P line of firearms? Was it a beneficial build? What prompted the change? What set-up did you make the change to? (Apex seems to be the preference around here)
Just looking for info from a broader group of owners, may be something I haven't encountered as of yet because I don't live @ the range and some may consider I'm still bordering on the break in portion of my weapons.
Thanks in advance for any input.

 

[ken158]

The 2.0 guns are suppose to have better triggers. The Apex kit is very nice and I went that route with my Shield. I would suggest trying a 2.0 and see what you think and either trade or go with the Apex. Either way will cost you some bucks. Hard for anyone to tell how it will improve your accuracy but it was worth the cost to me with my Shield.

 

[mlk18]

In the end you have two choices; practice and become accurate and proficient with the factory trigger or install an Apex. I have Apex in triggers in some of mine and some are stock. I can shoot them all about the same but with the stock guns I have to focus a little more on the fundamentals. We live in the era where aftermarket parts or light factory triggers have replaced training and practice for a lot of people. Either way it all really comes down to personal preference.

 

[CBStuard]

Since you are talking about CC guns, I vote you leave them alone. 4 inches at 25 yards is just fine. My wife and I are both slightly more accurate w/ our Beretta 92s in single action than we are w/ her G19 and my M&P9c. We are fine w/ that.

 

[Bonephish]

I don't like the M&P 2-piece hinged trigger and have Apex triggers in my Shield 9 & .45 and Pro CORE. A light, crisp trigger helps accuracy a great deal.

 

[gqllc007]

I have the .45c and the 9c. I replaced both with the Apex carry/duty kit. I have the Apex trigger replacement as well but have not done so as of yet. I am one of the few that do not mind the hinged trigger at all. The Apex kit was a definite improvement over stock

 

[presspics]

The vast majority of people won't benefit from a trigger job. If you are happy with how you shoot the gun and how it performs then leave it alone.

 

[rwj56]

I can't speak for everyone and I know some people actually like the trigger but here in the people's republic of Massachusetts we are held to a miserable 10.5 lb mass compliant trigger,I hated it when I got my M&P9c so I quickly swapped it out for the glock style apex and spring kit to get it down to 5lbs ,I then shot much better for accuracy with the now very smooth not gritty trigger, just picked up an SD9 and have an apex trigger and spring kit on the way as the trigger on the SD sucks even worse.just my 2cents

 

[Tinhack]

I shaved about 1.5lbs off my Shield 9 trigger by doing the well documented polishing procedure on the original parts and using Teflon based grease. I don't know if the grease helped at all but I used it anyway. I'm not a gunsmith but if you're handy with tools and posses some mechanical aptitude, it's not a hard job. And it's free. (If you already have the tools and equipment.)

If you're squeamish about disassembling your guns and need a dealer/gunsmith to do it, you might as well have them put a trigger kit in it. Their labor to do the polish work could come close to the cost of a trigger kit.

 

[zoso68]

I put an Apex trigger in my M&P 9c and it changed it from safe dweller to something I'm OK with carrying . Lighter and smoother trigger and worth every penny .

 

[Flash_80]

I have the .45c and the 9c. I replaced both with the Apex carry/duty kit. I have the Apex trigger replacement as well but have not done so as of yet. I am one of the few that do not mind the hinged trigger at all. The Apex kit was a definite improvement over stock

I liked the hinged trigger as well. I like a curvy trigger (The one in the Taurus 92 vs. the one in the Beretta 92). But I had to settle for the Glock style trigger to get the FSS kit. That trigger is awesome. But I still like the factory hinged one, and if I could have incorporated it I would have.

 

[Angus46]

If you are shooting 3 1/2 to 4 inch groups at 25 yards with a stock pistol, that is better than the overwhelming majority of people can shoot suppourted and close to the guns mechanical capability. I have a full size M and P 9 and put an Apex trigger on it. It did make a huge improvement. It's close to a good 1911 trigger. However...this is my competition gun. I no longer carry it for personal protection. Decided that if I do ever have to use a gun in a defensive situation I want a stock gun. Lots of info/opinions out there why to do this. You started these are your CC guns, and you already are shooting well above the required accuracy of any personal defensive situation would require. (Most are less than 7yds, actually much less) So my suggestion instead of the several hundred dollars in trigger kits, buy ammo and work on speed and transitions. Shooting like that your trigger control is great. If you haven't already focus on speed to shot (draw and low ready), transitions to multiple targets and multiple hits on the same target, reloads etc. Money would be well worth it.

If you are already good with this and just want to shoot better, you really are probably better off buying a gun more made for accuracy.

 

[Hamster65]

As much as I love my Shield 9, I was never truly satisfied with the articulated trigger even though it's much smoother than the one on my full size M&P.
I installed the Apex duty/carry trigger kit on mine which includes the trigger, trigger return spring, sear, sear spring, striker block and striker block spring. It reduces the trigger pull by 2 lbs. but, it's so smooth and crisp now, it feels even lighter than that.

 

[walleyeb1]

Another option a gunsmith

I shaved about 1.5lbs off my Shield 9 trigger by doing the well documented polishing procedure on the original parts and using Teflon based grease. I don't know if the grease helped at all but I used it anyway. I'm not a gunsmith but if you're handy with tools and posses some mechanical aptitude, it's not a hard job. And it's free. (If you already have the tools and equipment.)

If you're squeamish about disassembling your guns and need a dealer/gunsmith to do it, you might as well have them put a trigger kit in it. Their labor to do the polish work could come close to the cost of a trigger kit.

Another option to think about if there's a good gunsmith in your area is to have him or her do a custom trigger job for you. It'll cost less and you have input into what you want. Not to mention helping keep a local business while you're at it.