Trooper shot today - Update

[A10]

For any that haven't heard,

Suspect in trooper's death shoots, kills himself | Local & Regional | Seattle News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KOMO News

I did not know him. I understand he was a good man. My prayers to the family and the community he served.

They have arrested 5 folks for rendering assistance. I hope they get life.

Sheriff: 4 more arrested in trooper killing probe | Local & Regional | Seattle News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KOMO News

 

[chud333]

My prayers also go out to him and his family.
Sorry to hear this.


chuck

 

[TACC1]

Prayers sent for family and co-workers. Too bad the other
guy didn't shoot himself first. TACC1

 

[oldman45]

It is always sad for anyone to die but the officer was doing his job and apparently loved his work.

Prayers for the officer and his family.

The perp is gone but I question why there was no mention of his being a felon in possession of a handgun. It is a great example of how criminals still get guns, no matter how many laws are passed.

 

[Cobroller]

Peace and comfort to the family and the community.

 

[jbull380]

Way too many of these stories. It is becoming quite popular to just shoot us. People wonder why they are not treated as if Sheriff Andy Taylor had pulled them over. We just want want to go home at the end of the shift. Be careful guys!

 

[joeintexas]

Saddened to hear this. I agree it seems to be getting more and more common to hear this sort of thing. Not a good sign. Prayers to the family.

 

[M29since14]

Way too many of these stories. It is becoming quite popular to just shoot us. People wonder why they are not treated as if Sheriff Andy Taylor had pulled them over. We just want want to go home at the end of the shift. Be careful guys!

I agree there are way too many stories like this, but please always remember the vast majority of citizens have no interest in harming a police officer.

This story is doubly sad because there is ample reason to have known this guy was trouble. Apparently the trooper had no way to know that. What a shame.

 

[Fredo Batali]

My prayers and thoughts also for his family and coworkers.

De Oppresso Liber

 

[Ethang]

Agreed. Way too many of us are paying the ultimate price.

Godspeed Brother..

 

[BaldEagle1313]

Just a routine traffic stop...

I find it difficult to comprehend the people who abetted him. Especially after all the local publicity of what happened to the abbetors of the man who shot the four Lakewood deputies in 2009. You have to know you are going to be in a heap of trouble by helping.

For all our LEO's here on The Forum, in the immortal words of Sgt. Esterhaus, "let's be careful out there."

 

[monet61]

As always, as we see more and more of our brother officers fall, we extend our deepest symathies to the officers family and friends.

 

[LVSteve]

I find it difficult to comprehend the people who abetted him. Especially after all the local publicity of what happened to the abbetors of the man who shot the four Lakewood deputies in 2009. You have to know you are going to be in a heap of trouble by helping.

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You have to understand the basic criminal mentality and that of those who lurk on their fringes.

1) There is nothing connected with "authority" or "Law enforcement" that applies to them.

2) NEVER, NEVER, NEVER volunteer information to the "authorities".

3) I'm better than you and the last creep that got busted so I won't get caught.

4) If I am caught, it's your fault for catching me, not mine for doing wrong so that you hunt me down.

 

[Doug M.]

Yup. Trying to assess the actions of these dysfunctionals from the perspective a rational decent human is like trying to teach a chicken to play chess.

 

[HalfStack]

It's sad but the LEOs have to change their approaches in traffic stops. Your safety comes first and you make the suspect(s) stick their hands out the window(s) with the driver holding the keys. Then with your gun drawn order the driver to exit the vehicle opening the door on the outside and come toward you backward with their fingers intertwined on their head then you take possession of their hands. Then you frisk 'em.

That's what happened to me when I was pulled over for speeding many years ago. I can't blame the cop for this procedure but not all do that. If anything they are too relaxed.

 

[mlk18]

As I remind every new recruit that comes through field training; everything we teach you (them) about officer safety is a direct result from a law enforcement officer dying or getting seriously injured. Often times destroying a family in the process. Don't dishonor them or their loved ones by being apathetic or lazy in your approach.

May God bless the family of the Trooper who was slain and let the lessons learned from his murder save the lives of many other LEO's in the future.

 

[BaldEagle1313]

It's sad but the LEOs have to change their approaches in traffic stops. Your safety comes first and you make the suspect(s) stick their hands out the window(s) with the driver holding the keys. Then with your gun drawn order the driver to exit the vehicle opening the door on the outside and come toward you backward with their fingers intertwined on their head then you take possession of their hands. Then you frisk 'em.

That's what happened to me when I was pulled over for speeding many years ago. I can't blame the cop for this procedure but not all do that. If anything they are too relaxed.

When I got pulled over last May (and got my first ticket since 1980) I had to drive over a half-mile before there was a safe place to do so for the trooper - it was a two lane road with no shoulder and a guardrail due to the Wenatchee river. I slowed way down with the flashers on so he knew I was going to pull over and wasn't trying to rabbit on him. When I stopped, I turned off the car, took the keys in my left hand, showed them out the window then put them on the roof of the car so he could see them and left my hands in plain sight. It was after midnight and the last thing I wanted was to have him be fearful (okay, MORE fearful) for his safety. I waited for him to instruct me as to what he needed from me, and I let him know exactly where my hand was going to get to my wallet. Fortunately I keep my wallet offside from my piece so I didn't have to go past the .45 to get to my license and permit.

When all was said and done, he handed me my keys, thanked me, told me to slow down and we went on our separate ways.

 

[Ethang]

When I got pulled over last May (and got my first ticket since 1980) I had to drive over a half-mile before there was a safe place to do so for the trooper -

I know you had the best intentions but when the lights go on you should stop, not continue till you think it safe. It on the officer to pick the time and place for a stop. If at all possible I will pick a spot that not only is the safest for both me and the person I stop, but also gives me the best tactical advantage if the stop goes bad.