TTSH's 3rd Gen Question Du Jour

[TTSH]

At this point, I'm only looking for a pre-rail 3913 tsw. Should have got one "back then", but I thought 9mm's were worthless. I have since changed that view, and have nice representative examples of 2nd and 3rd Gen 9's.

The pre-rail 3913TSW is another one of those "buy-on-sight" 3rd Gen finds... almost impossible to pass up unless really nasty or crazy over-priced.

A nice 5906, round trigger guard, any rear sight.
For second gen choice a nice round trigger guard 639, again any rear sight.
Jim

I sense a trend here. You like round trigger guards. I do too.

#1 would be a Shorty 45..but it's likely out of my gun buying wheelhouse....so I'd settle for a pre-rail 4513....or even a 457S if I became desperate

The only "Shorty" that I've stumbled across in the last 3-4 years was a .40 and I should have bought it. $900 firm was the price. That's double my usual 3rd Gen investment. Shop wouldn't budge a cent on it and there was no way the good wife was going to approve it. It sold within a few days of when I found it.

 

[TTSH]

So TTSH ... I have your desired 6946! If you can extrapolate, it can be seen in this photo:

I swapped slides with the brand new 5906 (2014) out of the Houston facility because I could. Unfired in that configuration.

Here it is in it's natural state:

Maybe you should offer up a swap of some kind TTCH, just to save it from me painting it black.

digiroc

I'll take it!!!

 

[GaryS]

Well, I did. I only found out about them thanks to this forum. Never thought I'd actually see one for sale, but it popped up and I bought it four years ago. Same dealer as the 3914. Not quite as great a deal, but a good deal none the less.

The pre-rail 3913TSW is another one of those "buy-on-sight" 3rd Gen finds... almost impossible to pass up unless really nasty or crazy over-priced.

 

[TTSH]

If I came across a 3914DAO, pre rail 4513TSW, or 457D, I'd be interested. Other than that I have pretty much what I want and would be just buying duplicates.

... and duplicates usually aren't as much fun unless they are really, really super-pristine perfect! Of course, then they go straight into the safe never to be seen again! Well, for me anyway.

So I guess that technically the two of us are still in competition for a very small number of impossible-to-find-or-afford 3rd Gens. Good thing for you that I have been drained of cash by my truck repair guys.

PC 5906, Melonite finish please.

But I will settle for a 4596..........or a 45 Recon. Regards 18DAI

As I recall, you already made a major Melonite score, very recently in fact... no?

 

[TTSH]

Well, I did. I only found out about them thanks to this forum. Never thought I'd actually see one for sale, but it popped up and I bought it four years ago. Same dealer as the 3914. Not quite as great a deal, but a good deal none the less.

My day will come too... unless you get there 10 minutes before I do... again!

 

[TTSH]

Got a 3913, two 3914s and three 3913NL's ........ never seen a 3914NL in person.........just a handful of pictures here!

"Interesting" to a guy who's got one....... for those of us that don't it's just
d--- frustrating.

These guns were introduced pre-internet ..... so unless you read the 'gun rags" of the day or picked up the annual S&W catalog........ the blue guns could pass you by with their short production life.

The introduction of the 39xx's coincided with "hey day" of the "Wonder-9" ......if it didn't have 15 up the butt no one seemed to care...........

Another strike against the single stack.....by mid-93 the AWB was about to go into affect and everyone was rushing to get a stockpile of hi-caps and magazines!!!!!! By the time the AWB went into effect Smith had almost stopped making the blue 3914; and the 3914NL was only made for one year....... 1991

An interesting tidbit of 3rd Gen history... which I managed to sleep through due to circumstances beyond my control.

 

[GaryS]

Well, I've hit most of my 3rd Gen goals, except as outlined below. The probability of finding any of those is pretty low. Then again, you never really know in this state.

My day will come too... unless you get there 10 minutes before I do... again!

 

[GaryS]

I got back and forth on duplicates, so I never say never.

There are a couple of others out there that lurk in the background, but do snap up 3rd Gens when they come along. Which is why you can't dally if you see one you want. Even Value Line guns don't hang around all that long for the most part. Look at the prices of 908 and 908s models.

... and duplicates usually aren't as much fun unless they are really, really super-pristine perfect! Of course, then they go straight into the safe never to be seen again! Well, for me anyway.

So I guess that technically the two of us are still in competition for a very small number of impossible-to-find-or-afford 3rd Gens. Good thing for you that I have been drained of cash by my truck repair guys.


As I recall, you already made a major Melonite score, very recently in fact... no?

 

[TTSH]

Well, I've hit most of my 3rd Gen goals, except as outlined below. The probability of finding any of those is pretty low. Then again, you never really know in this state.

99.5% chance that I would pass on the 3914DAO and the 457D anyway and let you know where to find them. It isn't that they wouldn't be great additions to the collection, but... priorities.

On the other hand, we'd be in a race-to-the-death to get to that pre-rail 4513TSW. That is probably the only remaining 3rd Gen over $500 that I would race to buy even without the good wife's pre-approval.

 

[TTSH]

I got back and forth on duplicates, so I never say never.

There are a couple of others out there that lurk in the background, but do snap up 3rd Gens when they come along. Which is why you can't dally if you see one you want. Even Value Line guns don't hang around all that long for the most part. Look at the prices of 908 and 908s models.

Well, I said I was done for good with duplicates, but my latest 3rd Gen pick-up after a 13 month hiatus was... (wait for it)... a duplicate!

Never say never.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

I'm not 3rd Gen tapped out but my main goals were satisfied in the past year with a blued CS-9 that a nice member of this Forum turned me onto in North Carolina and a 6906 that I obtained a couple of years ago. Mostly I am into revolvers but I do love 3rd Gens so I have just a few; I wish I still had my M457 but it went to a friend in need and I still have my CS-45.

So, seeing all of the remarks above, and the 3rd Gen lovers in this thread, I have an interesting question, namely:

I have a new in the box safe queen 5903 SSV. Picture attached. I bought it new, retail, right before the high-cap gun ban went into effect and it remains unfired. I am not sure if I am ready to sell it which is why I am not putting it on the WTS Forum. But I am curious what the market is for it so if I can do a thread hijack, because I think it will be fun, I'll just ask that question here. With apologies for the thread hijack!!

 

[BLUEDOT37]

Nothing wrong with buying your magazines before the gun. I've done the same... many times!

I don't think anyone would turn down a pre-rail 4513TSW or pre-rail 4553TSW if they stumbled upon one. One or both of them have got to be somewhere on everyone's Want List.

I came across a 4513TSW, many years ago at a gun show, that someone had personalized & polished, which wasn't attractive to me and not long ago a CS45 that had more wear & tear than I thought it's high price warranted. Both only had one mag & I thought those are hard to find mags for. I'm ready now, if one pops up.

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[nocents]

I don't think anyone would turn down a pre-rail 4513TSW ........... if they stumbled upon one

.....I know someone that did...perfect in box with 3 mags for $650.....it came along at the exact same time that I was seduced by an H&K 45C with 4 mags for the same price.....in the back of my mind I think I knew I would be hesitant to use it because it was as new...and Homie don't do safe queens....but I still feel like a dumbass

 

[FUBAR-M1A]

4505. A couple of years ago there was one on gunbroker w/ a buy it now of $550 & I passed like an idiot. I knew what it was & that I should have bought it but I kept talking myself out of it. It went to 2 rounds of no bids before someone finally did the BIN. Soooo stupid.

2nd is a WVSP 4566TSW, if they ever switch guns & sell them off.

 

[TTSH]

I have a new in the box safe queen 5903 SSV. Picture attached. I bought it new, retail, right before the high-cap gun ban went into effect and it remains unfired. I am not sure if I am ready to sell it which is why I am not putting it on the WTS Forum. But I am curious what the market is for it so if I can do a thread hijack, because I think it will be fun, I'll just ask that question here. With apologies for the thread hijack!!

For such an uncommon & desirable 3rd Gen that's still brand-new-in-box, I haven't a clue. But if you do ever decide to sell it, be sure that I know about it! Whether I can afford it or not, I'd at least want an opportunity to be in on the bidding.

 

[TTSH]

I came across a 4513TSW, many years ago at a gun show, that someone had personalized & polished, which wasn't attractive to me and not long ago a CS45 that had more wear & tear than I thought it's high price warranted. Both only had one mag & I thought those are hard to find mags for. I'm ready now, if one pops up.

.....I know someone that did ...perfect in box with 3 mags for $650 .....it came along at the exact same time that I was seduced by an H&K 45C with 4 mags for the same price.....in the back of my mind I think I knew I would be hesitant to use it because it was as new...and Homie don't do safe queens ....but I still feel like a dumbass

They do pop up from time to time on that large firearms auction website... but the bids soon rise to well above my "no wife pre-approval required" price ceiling. Perfect in box with 3 magazines for $650 sounds quite reasonable to me. I'd beg for permission and then go after a deal like that for sure!

 

[TTSH]

4505. A couple of years ago there was one on gunbroker w/ a buy it now of $550 & I passed like an idiot. I knew what it was & that I should have bought it but I kept talking myself out of it. It went to 2 rounds of no bids before someone finally did the BIN. Soooo stupid.

He who hesitates generally tends to lose out. I know that result myself all too well.

 

[Texas40]

Picked up this 4516-2 recently $475 w/2 mags and unfired in the box. 3/96 production per SW.
Need a couple more mags. Also have a 4046.
I recently discovered these and although not a "collector" I have found there are many very interesting variants of these guns.
So I now keep an out for them when looking. So far this one has 300 down range and all is good.

PS this was just after the range hadnt cleaned her yet.


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[mauser9]

Still want to add that 9MM Tactical I fired at the S&W range back around 2000. At the time the CS-9 won out.

 

[nitmr26]

I'm actively looking for a 4566TSW. I probably wouldn't pass on a minty 5906 if I happened to come across one at the right price.