TURNING YOUR BACK?

[chief38]

Supply, Demand, Price........ that's what i is all about! As the ammo sales falter the vendors will lower their prices until the sales grow. Right now they are still testing the waters by keeping their prices relatively high and seeing who bites. As people wise up and wait for prices to fall - they shall.

Nothing has changed in thousands of years! Supply, Demand, Price.

 

[MyDads38]

I've seen prices in my area fall from $50/box for 9mm ball, to $21/box. I'm still not buying. 223/5.56 still bringing crazy prices, but coming down more slowly.

I've been keeping an eye on 9mm bullets prices. Cast bullets can be had for $.07; while plated bullets are still $.11-$.15. This is down from $.16-$.20+. I'm okay with shooting cast until plated prices come down to more reasonable prices. Primers? Well we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

 

[Catbacker88]

Reluctant to join NRA?

I've sold some to new gun owners I work with at cost to help bring more people into the sport. I'm also trying to get them to join the NRA, though they seem reluctant.

Apologies for hijacking the thread, but what's your take on why they would be reluctant to join the NRA?

 

[epj]

Fear of being “ on the list”.

 

[Smokester653]

Feel the same....

Funny how every flea market, LGS, Gun Show ,Billy Bob in the parking lot and ammo websites had ammo at absolute bloated prices and yet there was a "shortage".

 

[Buford57]

When things moderate a little further I anticipate buying a few bricks of LR and SP primers and a few pounds of certain powders. The SP is only because I took up loading 9mm during the recent foolishness. I will never run out of brass or .22LR and there are 2 5 gallon buckets of wheel weights in the shed. I don't care who is to blame. This nonsense has been repeating about once a decade since 1968 and in the words of an old NRA program I "refuse to be a victim".

 

[Dave Lively]

Funny how every flea market, LGS, Gun Show ,Billy Bob in the parking lot and ammo websites had ammo at absolute bloated prices and yet there was a "shortage".

You can buy gold online, at numerous pawn shops and precious metal stores. That doesn't mean its expensive because of a secret conspiracy restricting supply. Same goes for ammo.

 

[LVSteve]

Funny how every flea market, LGS, Gun Show ,Billy Bob in the parking lot and ammo websites had ammo at absolute bloated prices and yet there was a "shortage".

Yes, because they all bought when it was a little high then looked to sell at extortionate prices. Now the online stores are starting to ease prices these folks are going nuts trying to keep the price up. If copper and lead got cheap again, these clowns would be looking for tall buildings a la 1929. All I can say to that is don't land on me.

 

[Danny will]

I’m a banned Scammer!!!
I don't think i will be buying anything for now .

 

[cmj8591]

It wasn't greed that drove prices up. It was fear and panic.

Not to mention shutting down the supply chain for a year.

 

[686-380]

Firearms in my region never did sell completely out. Ammo has been scarce but I bought mine a few years back. I won't even look at ammo for at least another year...or whenever prices drop due to lack of demand.

 

[The Norseman]

Going Backward

I have Turned My Back, and I have taken my purchasing power
a step further; I have stopped buying anything Gun related.

 

[geekeye]

i stopped buying handgun ammo with it hit $600/case (november iirc) and when it went to $1000 i wondered if i had made a mistake not buying more before it got that high, but thankfully i have enough to last for a while, and prices appear to be coming down again (slowly). with any luck things should be more reasonable by the time i really need to restock.

 

[Green Frog]

i stopped buying handgun ammo with it hit $600/case (november iirc) and when it went to $1000 i wondered if i had made a mistake not buying more before it got that high, but thankfully i have enough to last for a while, and prices appear to be coming down again (slowly). with any luck things should be more reasonable by the time i really need to restock.

Even “Lower than Dirt” is well under a grand per case. I agree with what is a developing consensus... we’ve probably seen the crest of this particular crisis and we’re on the downside of the wave. I fear “they” have figured out a way to get a little more out of it, through.

Froggie

 

[Valmet]

A few weeks ago I got a promo e-mail from Freedom Munitions on $4.99 “flat rate” shipping. Upon clicking the link I saw that a box of 9mm was $47.99- hard pass for me, thanks.

 

[scoobysnacker]

I think good prices are around the corner. Every day, I get, check, and delete 30+ email flyers from different vendors, all with some variation of "buy now and we'll give you ____ free!" inticement in it.

My line in the sand :
9x19 brass, $210.
.223 brass, $320
7.62x39 steel, $210
9x18 steel, $210

This is common ammo, with a price higher than pre-panic. I think they're making it hand-over-fist, and people have stopped buying. They got what they felt they needed during the panic, at this point everyone just wants "some more if the price is right".

I also have other calibers, not sure where to set the price yet. Maybe others can contribute- I'm thinking pre-panic, +$10 per case 1k.
.45 acp
7.62 NATO/.308
.32 acp

 

[DeplorabusUnum]

This morning I got a notification from Midway that SPP are in stock at 06:22 AM. 2 hours later I saw the notification, and of course they were all gone. Sale price is a whopping $76 per 1000. More than double their price 2 years ago. Sportsman's Warehouse on the other hand had 2 boxes sitting on the shelf a month ago at $36 per 1000.

It is disappointing to me that Midway's prices for primers are so high right now. I don't need them that bad, but they keep disappearing in no time flat. As long as people keep buying them out, why would they lower the price at all?

Then there is our government borrowing and spending a trillion here, a trillion there, a trillion everywhere without actually having any hard assets to back it up. Our dollars are quickly becoming more worthless daily. That to me is the one factor that is almost guaranteed to keep prices going up. Once they go up, they rarely ever go back down. Inflation is about to get really ugly, IMHO.

 

[reddog81]

Funny how every flea market, LGS, Gun Show ,Billy Bob in the parking lot and ammo websites had ammo at absolute bloated prices and yet there was a "shortage".

Kind of like when the .22lr shortage went on from 2013 to 2016 and yet every shooter I know had a larger stockpile in 2016 then ever before. Its a temporary spike in demand that's causing the problems. Ammo is still being made. The problem is that it's just selling quicker than ever before because you've got a bunch of new shooters with wads of free government stimulus cash chasing a limited supply and they have no idea what a box of 9mm "should" cost.

If retailers dropped the prices to $10 for a box of 9mm they'd be sold out in seconds and you wouldn't be able to find anything on shelves.

 

[Dave Lively]

My line in the sand :
9x19 brass, $210.
.223 brass, $320

I only shoot my AR once or maybe twice a year so I probably have a lifetime supply of .223. If the price gets down to $320 for brass case 223/5.56 I might buy another case just to be sure.

But I shoot a lot of brass 9mm FMJ. While prices are currently headed the right direction that might change if there is a particularly horrible mass shooting that results in a push for gun control or more civil unrest like last summer. So I have two price points for 9mm.

When it gets down to $270/case I plan to buy a case or two to replace what I have been shooting since my last ammo purchase a couple of years ago.

When it gets down to $220 I plan to buy some more to have a larger stockpile. I thought I had more than enough but the length of this shortage makes me wonder.

 

[kraynky]

I'm out in the county, but not far from our County Seat. The fireworks celebration was heard every night from about dark all the way up until after midnight, Friday through Monday.

Many of the pops and booms I heard were positively gunfire. Some folks must have had enough adult beverages to forget what it costs to replace that ammo. I expect that many will discover this week that their ammo supply is low now.

I haven't bought any ammo in more than a year, but have plenty loaded and more to load to replace what I plan on shooting when it cools back down a bit. I expect ammo to stay elevated in price as long folks feel nervous that they don't have enough.