I suspect that most AGs would consider that a civil matter, and can better spend their resources going after other types of criminals.
Tyler T-Grips and the Oklahoma Attorney General
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What I like about T-type grip adapters is that they allow classic stock panels and the classic appearance while providing a far improved grip!
The appearance has value in my book. Guns carried for defense, need not win any beauty contests, but there is nothing wrong with spicing up the look.
When I bought my first 44, it was a big deal to have the 3 Ts, that is Target Trigger, Target Hammer and Target Stock, white outline rear sight with red insert in the front sight. Anyone looking at those was envious, and the most certainly made the gun better.
When I built 38 Super a few years ago, I built blue gun, with every visible moving part made of stainless. I like the look. Hard to see in this picture but you get the idea.
Even Henry with their new handguns likes the look. With their brass frame and trigger guard.
And we have seen these on the forum before, the T Grip just adds to the "look". Nothing wrong with the "look". Anybody know where there is a source of gold or silver plated hammers and triggers and such? Some might call them a pimp's gun, but I am fine with them.
The T Grip is a cheap way to dress up a wheel gun. Nothing wrong with that. And that is why they cost so much. The new copies are basically plastic and black, not much value in that look.
Just saying....
Well…….. I'm boiling tar and emptying feathers from my pillows. You guys grab the pitchforks and torches. I'll meet you in Oklahoma 
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I'd be happy to purchase a couple S&W J frame round butt T-grips if you're tired of looking at them.
The Robertson grip I bought for $30 is aluminum?
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t's not a civil matter because there is a widespread pa
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No it's not the "cool factor " for me, it's how they make the gun fit my hand. Gives me more control
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I agree 100%. But when someone at the range asks me what that is, and I tell them it's an original Tyler.....well that's cool.
You know what? It's YOUR money and happiness…..so do with it as you please! I prefer the older ones with the Tyler name and location on them. For some unknown reason, I wanted one of his bronze T-grips, but never got around to ordering one. Congrats on your pickup.
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Lawdog; Not sure if you believe the Pachmayr is a new model but they have been around for 60 plus years or more. They were the competition for the T-Grip back in the revolver heyday.
That actually is a decent price for one with the box but I don't have a Colt and the Pachmayr's never held up like the Tyler.
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Do the Pachys fit a large-frame revolver like an M1917? I like the appearance of the original grip panels, but I don't care for having my knuckles busted by the trigger guard.
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I have stainless matt, stainless high polish, nickel and blue Smith and Wesson wheel guns. I have black ones on blue guns now, somewhere I have an aluminum one, all from Melvin, who I knew personally when I lived in Oklahoma City long ago. I actually lived only 4-5 miles from his shop and chatted with him many times, while visiting.
He built a custom holster for me once, and we used his trigger shoes on our long range rifles. Nice guy he was and never too busy to chat. Too bad his legacy is tarnished by these jerks.
I am aware, some of the other brands on the net are not, they are cheap looking plastic. I will probably buy a couple of those Robertson's, although I do not use them much and have a couple real ones. I do wish I had the brass polished ones to dress up a couple old ones.
I have stainless matt, stainless high polish, nickel and blue Smith and Wesson wheel guns. I have black ones on blue guns now, somewhere I have an aluminum one, all from Melvin, who I knew personally when I lived in Oklahoma City long ago. I actually lived only 4-5 miles from his shop and chatted with him many times, while visiting.
He built a custom holster for me once, and we used his trigger shoes on our long range rifles. Nice guy he was and never too busy to chat. Too bad his legacy is tarnished by these jerks.
I am aware but they are showing up for sale lately. I am also seeing a printed plastic one that looks pretty cheap on line, maybe not in person,
I have a hard time accepting plastic on guns, although the one in my pocket is mostly plastic. LOL
And to add on my redundant comment. Simple lawyer stuff. Never buy anything across a state line with a check.
Second, never buy anything online with a Debit card, like a check your money is gone, the instant they process it, and no, debit cards are NEVER as safe as credit cards.
Third, always use a regular Mastercard or Visa for out of state or online sales. Why? Because the seller has a contract with the Visa or Mastercard provider, and that contract provides a method of getting your money back if you file a challenge, regardless of where you live or where the property was sold.
Even filing a credit card challenge at some late date can be effective because the company controls whether or not that guy is going to be able to use their card services in the future, so likely they will make it right, unless there is a time limitation of the challenge.
A $100 case or a dozen of them is pretty trivial to any DA or prosecutor. When I was an Assistant DA, I had hundreds of cases assigned. I had one investigator and about a dozen staff who processed cases. I worked 60 hours per week and never made a dent.
Many cases involved pretty dramatic harm to people, those cases get worked first. Keep in mind that over 90% of all cases, state and federal are plea bargained because in part there is simply not enough prosecutors, courts, jails or prison space.
Taxpayer refuse to fund the number of prosecutors needed and that is every state. That is why I doubt the Oklahoma AG will file anything in that case, pretty trivial really. Some kid having his bicycle stolen by fraud has much more money being lost. Just saying, nobody is going to get very excited about some guy in another state claiming he was ripped off for $100.
Second, never buy anything online with a Debit card, like a check your money is gone, the instant they process it, and no, debit cards are NEVER as safe as credit cards.
Third, always use a regular Mastercard or Visa for out of state or online sales. Why? Because the seller has a contract with the Visa or Mastercard provider, and that contract provides a method of getting your money back if you file a challenge, regardless of where you live or where the property was sold.
Even filing a credit card challenge at some late date can be effective because the company controls whether or not that guy is going to be able to use their card services in the future, so likely they will make it right, unless there is a time limitation of the challenge.
A $100 case or a dozen of them is pretty trivial to any DA or prosecutor. When I was an Assistant DA, I had hundreds of cases assigned. I had one investigator and about a dozen staff who processed cases. I worked 60 hours per week and never made a dent.
Many cases involved pretty dramatic harm to people, those cases get worked first. Keep in mind that over 90% of all cases, state and federal are plea bargained because in part there is simply not enough prosecutors, courts, jails or prison space.
Taxpayer refuse to fund the number of prosecutors needed and that is every state. That is why I doubt the Oklahoma AG will file anything in that case, pretty trivial really. Some kid having his bicycle stolen by fraud has much more money being lost. Just saying, nobody is going to get very excited about some guy in another state claiming he was ripped off for $100.
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Pretty much agree. I'm a lawyer, too. The reality of the "justice system" is almost entirely different than the general public perception of it. I commend your efforts to make it work. Darn shame it is so hard to do that. I still remember, while in law school, sitting with the law clerk of the chief Circuit Court judge in Wayne County when the judge came in, angry as hell, and yelled at the clerk to find him some law to support a decision for the plaintiff because he, the judge, wanted to decide a particular case for the plaintiff in that case. After the judge left, the poor clerk turned to me and said "I don't' know what I'm going to do. I can't find any law to support the plaintiff and I have told him that." Guess who the judge ruled in favor of, I don't know how. That lesson has come back to me many times while practicing. And that's how the system often works.
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