I currently do not own a 3rd gen S&W semi-auto and until today had not really thought too much about them. Then I made the mistake of stopping in a local gun & pawn that I have had good luck in the past. In the case was a 4506, a very nice looking pistol. I did not ask to see it so I don't know the dash number. It had one magazine and no box. Asking price was $675.00 but that is negotiable. I did look to be in very good condition. Thinking about going back tomorrow for a closer look. Is that price fair? Seems a little high after looking at some on GB. I 'd appreciate any input.
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Big Shrek
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I'd try to get him in the $500-550 range...
which should be easy, considering what pawn shops actually pay for things..
which is around 1/5th to 1/2, depending on a few factors...
and if you're a fairly regular buyer, should be real easy.
Remember, GB stuff also has shipping costs & whatnot...
so factor that into anything on there.
The best thing is that it is Right There to Inspect and Handle.
Which GB can't offer, usually. So you can look it over real well,
inspect, check the bore with a light, etc...
which should be easy, considering what pawn shops actually pay for things..
which is around 1/5th to 1/2, depending on a few factors...
and if you're a fairly regular buyer, should be real easy.
Remember, GB stuff also has shipping costs & whatnot...
so factor that into anything on there.
The best thing is that it is Right There to Inspect and Handle.
Which GB can't offer, usually. So you can look it over real well,
inspect, check the bore with a light, etc...
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HOUSTON RICK
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Ditto on negotiating price. The 4506 is a robust 1911. Perhaps the best full size 45 in the S&W line for the price. A lot of people say that it is the most fun of my handguns to shoot. My brother called it a "cannon".
I have the compact version 4516 and it is built like a tank. It is my truck gun....can't imagine what it is like to haul a full size version of such a brick around. I picked mine up for well under what they are asking for yours. If you can find extra magazines nab those while you are at it.
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Went back today and looked at it again. It is marked Gwinnett County Sheriff's Department. It is in good shape with a shiny bore, just a few handling marks. It comes with two magazines but no box. I haggled down to $560 OTD. Have to go back Monday to complete the sale because the NCIC system was down and expected to be down about four hours. I put a deposit down on it and will post photos when I get it home and cleaned up. It is pretty dirty.
jbrentd
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Sounds like you're getting a good deal. I'm new to these as well. Shot mine for the first time today and was pleased. Can't wait to see your new one.
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Good deal and it being an ex law enforcement 4506 chances are it wasn't shot much outside of requal.
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I am happy with it. Does not seem to have been shot much. It is tight and the bore is shiny. I hope to shoot it this weekend then clean it up and take some pictures.
Hmmm, maybe you meant to say "more robust than a 1911." I think almost anyone would agree with that. But a 4506 is so very much NOT a 1911, it's about as close to a 1911 as a Browning Hi-Power is... which is to say... it is nothing whatsoever like a 1911. It's a fantastic and wholly different animal than a 1911, and not close in any way except that both are metal handguns that eat .45 ACP ammo.
loeman
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I think you got a very fair deal. And if you come to love yours like I do mine, you will consider it a bargain. Congratulations!
diegobxr
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Congratulations! Can't go wrong with a 3rd Gen S&W.
Now you need to get another one, ala Alonzo in "Training day".
Now you need to get another one, ala Alonzo in "Training day".
Big Shrek
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I always considered the 3rd Gen S&W's to be 4th Gen improvements on 1911's
Although the screwy thing is that the Star number models
actually kept the 1911 control scheme, and longer barrels
than the S&W's on the same slide length, so retained more precision...
ain't that a kick in the socks??
But I lurvs 'em both
Well, I can see the emotional side to that assertion but the way the S&W handles the trigger / sear / hammer interaction AND the firing pin, decock, magazine disconnect... well...
Realistically, the guns are both semiauto .45's, made of metal... not much else in common.
Realistically, the guns are both semiauto .45's, made of metal... not much else in common.
OP
Upone buying one.....
....I immediately fell in love with 3rd Gens. I'd like to have more.
....I immediately fell in love with 3rd Gens. I'd like to have more.
You know, come to think of it...
I fired a mag from my 5943, first time I shot a semi pistol and bulletswent all over the place. Then I was used to it and the second mag was GREAT. THEN I fell in love with it.
I fired a mag from my 5943, first time I shot a semi pistol and bulletswent all over the place. Then I was used to it and the second mag was GREAT. THEN I fell in love with it.
Good buy. I was looking at those when I first decided to go with a S&W .45. Of course that was before slipping down the rabbit hole and winding up with a 4566TSW.
Lots of shooters call them "tanks" and "robust," but a 4506 is only an ounce more than a 1911. That could be just the higher density of stainless over carbon steel (which is an assumption - I should research to see if it is.)
Strangely - they have the same grip angle, and 1911 mags can be modified for a S&W mag catch hole and will work. The pricing of mags doesn't encourage it yet, but the potential is there. I recently picked up a 645 mag which fits - life being cruel, I have yet to take mine to the range and fire it.
While 3 Gens don't have the aftermarket support of the 1911, we can leave them as is and shoot them. It's hard to find "issue" 1911's, even models intended to duplicate military standard, and usually they are a premium unless a foreign import. So getting an all stainless full sized .45 for a little over $500 is a bargain. Considering they are known to feed nearly any .45 cartridge ever loaded - unlike some 1911's - they are a good choice if that becomes an issue.
Go shoot it with an empty case in the stack, it's one of those legends perpetuated about it that they feed with no issues. 1911's don't have that said about them.
Lots of shooters call them "tanks" and "robust," but a 4506 is only an ounce more than a 1911. That could be just the higher density of stainless over carbon steel (which is an assumption - I should research to see if it is.)
Strangely - they have the same grip angle, and 1911 mags can be modified for a S&W mag catch hole and will work. The pricing of mags doesn't encourage it yet, but the potential is there. I recently picked up a 645 mag which fits - life being cruel, I have yet to take mine to the range and fire it.
While 3 Gens don't have the aftermarket support of the 1911, we can leave them as is and shoot them. It's hard to find "issue" 1911's, even models intended to duplicate military standard, and usually they are a premium unless a foreign import. So getting an all stainless full sized .45 for a little over $500 is a bargain. Considering they are known to feed nearly any .45 cartridge ever loaded - unlike some 1911's - they are a good choice if that becomes an issue.
Go shoot it with an empty case in the stack, it's one of those legends perpetuated about it that they feed with no issues. 1911's don't have that said about them.
RobertJ.
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Nice pistol, I'd be happy!
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