1Aspenhill
US Veteran, SWCA Member, Absent Comrade
Many,
James answered the question already.
Bill
James answered the question already.
Bill
UPDATE! -- Oddball 38/44
- Thread starter LelandRay
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great looking revolver,Leland. I saw the response from Roy that James revealed. That is great to have one of 12 in that configuration
BruceHMX
Member
That's one of the neatest HD's I've ever seen!! Congrat's on a find like that. Bill you obviously know more about the gun other than it's correct. Who was it made for? Was it an agency or individual? Just when you think nothing like this will turn up, wham!
Again Leland congrat's on a beautiful find.
Again Leland congrat's on a beautiful find.
james56
US Veteran
Great Find no matter what others say, one in 12 are you kidding me WOW!!
I agree with James56 
AND, one of the best 1st posts I've ever seen.
AND, one of the best 1st posts I've ever seen.
Very cool. I looked right past the missing ejector rod shroud the first time I saw the picture. The gun is kind of like a prototype Model 58 chambered for a round that is less expensive to shoot. Now that I know they exist, I'll keep an eye open for one.
Congratulations to those of you that have one.
Congratulations to those of you that have one.
Bill: Do you know if any Outdoorsman were ever produced with similar barrels?
I would still love to have some detailed photos of the barrel/shroud for my files !
Jerry
I would still love to have some detailed photos of the barrel/shroud for my files !
Jerry
1Aspenhill
US Veteran, SWCA Member, Absent Comrade
Jerry,
I don't know if they did any Outdoorsman, but do know they made some with alloy frame.
Bill
I don't know if they did any Outdoorsman, but do know they made some with alloy frame.
Bill
Thanks, guys
Well, not a "first" post, as I had over 2,000 when I became inactive some time ago. And then I found that my membership had expired, disappeared, or had been erased. Not a problem, certainly, and if nothing else, this is certainly the most interesting first post I've ever made.
I'd like to thank Mr. Aspenhill Bill and others for the time they took to help me out with my "problem." I'd also like to thank my friends Charlie, Mark, and Many, particularly Mark and Charlie for their early morning phone calls today.
Right now I don't think anyone could rain on my parade, even if they tried really, really hard, as I literally NEVER have had a gun show experience this exciting (other than seeing Elvis and the Memphis Mafia at a Jackson show in the early 70s), though I've had many good times and have found some wonderful pieces to take home with me. This event is just absolutely over the top, however.
I don't collect guns, I accumulate them. I bought the old HD because I wanted a shooter, but of course now I couldn't possibly carry it through the woods or out to the range without feeling not only very guilty, but more than a little bit reckless. And I don't like those feelings: guns are made to be used, and I don't believe in owning safe queens. No offense to those who collect, save, and treasure the truly wonderful tools we all love, but it's just not my thing. So after I write to Mr. Jinks and get as much info as possible, I'll sell the HD on Gunbroker or something.
Again, thanks to everyone for your help. I'll be posting some more pictures later on tonight or tomorrow, as soon as I can get them done.
LR
I agree with James56
AND, one of the best 1st posts I've ever seen.
Well, not a "first" post, as I had over 2,000 when I became inactive some time ago. And then I found that my membership had expired, disappeared, or had been erased. Not a problem, certainly, and if nothing else, this is certainly the most interesting first post I've ever made.
I'd like to thank Mr. Aspenhill Bill and others for the time they took to help me out with my "problem." I'd also like to thank my friends Charlie, Mark, and Many, particularly Mark and Charlie for their early morning phone calls today.
Right now I don't think anyone could rain on my parade, even if they tried really, really hard, as I literally NEVER have had a gun show experience this exciting (other than seeing Elvis and the Memphis Mafia at a Jackson show in the early 70s), though I've had many good times and have found some wonderful pieces to take home with me. This event is just absolutely over the top, however.
I don't collect guns, I accumulate them. I bought the old HD because I wanted a shooter, but of course now I couldn't possibly carry it through the woods or out to the range without feeling not only very guilty, but more than a little bit reckless. And I don't like those feelings: guns are made to be used, and I don't believe in owning safe queens. No offense to those who collect, save, and treasure the truly wonderful tools we all love, but it's just not my thing. So after I write to Mr. Jinks and get as much info as possible, I'll sell the HD on Gunbroker or something.
Again, thanks to everyone for your help. I'll be posting some more pictures later on tonight or tomorrow, as soon as I can get them done.
LR
Again, oddly enough, I beg to differ with what you say. This revolver has never been altered. It was PRODUCED, or MANUFACTURED this way. It was not altered at the factory or anywhere else. The front sight is correct also, not altered. I have owned guns with this very sight.
I'm not trying to start a war with you SP, but many if not most of your posts have a bubble bursting tone to them and all are done without a little fact checking.
I would hate to see my old buddy Leland, or someone in a simular situation flip a rare and desireable revolver like this one because someone rushed to judgement with incorrect facts.
Why don't you just step back and do a little research next time?
Fire back, I'm ready!
james56
US Veteran
Yep, I don't keep guns that are too pretty to shoot, since I'm primarily a shooter. I shoot the 520 because I like shooting it, even though it was NIB when I got it (and could probably still sell it at a tidy profit, besides). And I shoot my PC Schofield because it's so darned much FUN!
I think the term "altered" should never be used describing a gun coming from the factory. I agree with Many that the correct term to be used would be either maunfactured or produced.
'Altered" denotes some sinister deception meant to mislead a buyer. Just my 2 cents worth.
'Altered" denotes some sinister deception meant to mislead a buyer. Just my 2 cents worth.
Art Doc
SWCA Member, Absent Comrade
LRFXR- Please refer to the photo of the 1956 HD I posted. Round sight. You may have many 1956s HDs with the ramp sight but like I said I have never seen one. As I keep repeating over and over I am not an expert.
The only way I know of for that unshrouded HD barrel to have been produced was for S&W to take a standard shrouded barrel and mill it into the present configuration. Sort of like the old Target Models that were factory converted from fixed sight versions prior to shipping. To me, these are modified guns... modified by the factory. You would argue that since this is how it left the factory it is original. That's one way to define it, but not mine. That unshrouded barrel was not manufactured, it was created from the standard unit. These 12 special order HDs are not standard items, they are factory customs. A fine point but that's how I see it.
As for bursting bubbles, I didn't realize I had that sort of power. But thank you for reminding me that this forum is all about, for, and by the serious collectors and experts, and I am neither. I forget that, sometimes.
I ask questions that nobody else seems to ask. Apparently there's a reason. I speak directly and I offer my honest opinion when someone solicits comments but I guess what I see as being honest others see as bursting bubbles. I'm not trying to be irritating, this is just the way I am. Ask my friends.
Not everyone wants directness and honesty. OK. I will try to remember my place.
The only way I know of for that unshrouded HD barrel to have been produced was for S&W to take a standard shrouded barrel and mill it into the present configuration. Sort of like the old Target Models that were factory converted from fixed sight versions prior to shipping. To me, these are modified guns... modified by the factory. You would argue that since this is how it left the factory it is original. That's one way to define it, but not mine. That unshrouded barrel was not manufactured, it was created from the standard unit. These 12 special order HDs are not standard items, they are factory customs. A fine point but that's how I see it.
As for bursting bubbles, I didn't realize I had that sort of power. But thank you for reminding me that this forum is all about, for, and by the serious collectors and experts, and I am neither. I forget that, sometimes.
I ask questions that nobody else seems to ask. Apparently there's a reason. I speak directly and I offer my honest opinion when someone solicits comments but I guess what I see as being honest others see as bursting bubbles. I'm not trying to be irritating, this is just the way I am. Ask my friends.
Not everyone wants directness and honesty. OK. I will try to remember my place.
That sure is purty "I'll take it" 
"I'll take it"
LelandRay:
Thank you very much for the close-up photos ! I appreciate your help !
I will ask Bill to post similar photos of a shrouded version of the same vintage !
Interesting front blade !
Best Regards,
Jerry
Thank you very much for the close-up photos ! I appreciate your help !
I will ask Bill to post similar photos of a shrouded version of the same vintage !
Interesting front blade !
Best Regards,
Jerry
That sure is purty
I don't think UPS will allow you to ship your first born child to Mississippi. Maybe the post office will, however.
I don't think UPS will allow you to ship your first born child to Mississippi. Maybe the post office will, however.
LelandRay,
Probably not too far off, since that's one of only 12 ever made. Its value must be way up there like one of those extremely rare Heavy Dutys they made in .45 Colt.
That is a very rare find and it appears to be in mint condition as well. That gun is a "collection" all by itself.
Congratulations!!
, I had him just where I wanted him Similar threads
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