Ranger17
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Hi OP, do you have the manual handy? If so do the pix in the assembly section (pgs 30-32) help any as to what it visually should look like?
UPDATED: Shield 9 EZ Slide Stuck Forward, Hammer Fired
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I do have the manual, what happened is that the hammer came up (Figure 59a, page 31) while I was putting the slide back on, so it cannot go all the way back, nor can it slide all the way forward to come back off.
51 Ashton
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With the slide removed, if your able to remove it try resetting the hammer with your finger and manually cocking it. If it stays cocked I think you should be able to complete assembly and test for proper operation. Just an idea from looking at mine with slide removed.
I did see a post on another forum of this same situation your in. There was a solution that was addressed from home. I dont remember the site nor the procedure used but there is one out there.
I did see a post on another forum of this same situation your in. There was a solution that was addressed from home. I dont remember the site nor the procedure used but there is one out there.
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Can't get the slide removed without resetting the hammer. Can't figure out how to reset the hammer without removing the slide.
If you can find me that solution that would be amazing, I've tried searching google with no luck.
If you can find me that solution that would be amazing, I've tried searching google with no luck.
51 Ashton
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Do a search for the same problem you have. check all the forums that come back mentioning sw m&p 9ez and you will eventually find it. I knew of these issue related to this gun right after I got the gun but before I found this site.
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Is the grip safety all the way out or is it still stuck in like in the first pictures. If it is out and loose and the takedown is down, you should be able to pull the slide to the rear and that will reset the hammer. If the slide won't go that far back you may have dislodged the recoil spring. Do you have some new pictures or did I miss them?
Grip safety is not stuck anymore and the takedown level is down. I just updated the pictures in the first post.
OP, you've gotten a lot of really good responses from people here and the problem isn't fixed. I would highly recommend you take it to a gunsmith or ship it to S&W. At this point I would be worried about the weapon having a hidden problem even if you somehow get it back together. For your own piece of mind I would have someone give this gun the all clear before I ever fire another round through it. The absolute last thing you want is a catastrophic failure because something just isn't right. My humble opinion..
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jared999 in the second pic is that as far as the slide will go to the rear? I would think the trigger would reset.
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I just looked at mine and the slide stop slot has to be right on top of the slide stop lever to reset the trigger. If it will move back a little more it should reset the trigger.
I dug out my 380EZ to try to understand the problem. Assuming that the 380EZ and the 9EZ are pretty much the same, this is what I'm seeing:
1. The internal hammer in the up (fired) position is trapped between the butt-end of the breech block and the end plate of the slide. The slide is prevented from traveling forward by the slide end plate.
2. The slide end plate is not removable, so the hammer has to be in the down (cocked) position in order for the slide to clear it. This is probably why the manual advises to cock it, then put the safety on and not depress the grip safety when removing the slide.
3. The butt-end of the breech block will drive the hammer into the cocked position if it is brought back far enough. This is what happens when the slide is either manually retracted or when a cartridge is fired.
4. Something else may be blocking the slide from traveling rearward other than the hammer. Two possibilities are apparent to me; either the take-down lever has separated or has become deformed, or the end of the recoil spring assembly has become dislodged from its nitch under the barrel.
5. With the slide as far forward as it came be made to go, you should be able to see (or feel) if the recoil spring assembly is still properly located and compressed, and also be able to wiggle the take-down lever while observing the right-side of it to see if it's still intact.
6. If both of the above items appear to be OK, then the only other thing that's preventing your slide from retracting could be the ejector pin not aligned properly with its groove in the slide. Otherwise the hammer in it's upright position should be driven back by the butt-end of the breech block, which should be fairly easy to do manually.
7. I would try to move the slide side-to-side while manually retracting it in order to make sure that the ejector pin is properly engaged in its groove.
8. It seems very unlikely that anything could prevent the hammer from cocking (and staying cocked). Perhaps with a liberal application of OneShot cleaner/lubrication fluid to the front of the breech block I would use a bit more muscle when retracting the slide. I'm not advising that you to wail-away on it; just a good solid yank.
If all else fails, then there's always the mother ship. Good luck with it and please let us know how it all turns out. -S2
ETA: changed "extractor" to "ejector pin" (had a brain fart)
1. The internal hammer in the up (fired) position is trapped between the butt-end of the breech block and the end plate of the slide. The slide is prevented from traveling forward by the slide end plate.
2. The slide end plate is not removable, so the hammer has to be in the down (cocked) position in order for the slide to clear it. This is probably why the manual advises to cock it, then put the safety on and not depress the grip safety when removing the slide.
3. The butt-end of the breech block will drive the hammer into the cocked position if it is brought back far enough. This is what happens when the slide is either manually retracted or when a cartridge is fired.
4. Something else may be blocking the slide from traveling rearward other than the hammer. Two possibilities are apparent to me; either the take-down lever has separated or has become deformed, or the end of the recoil spring assembly has become dislodged from its nitch under the barrel.
5. With the slide as far forward as it came be made to go, you should be able to see (or feel) if the recoil spring assembly is still properly located and compressed, and also be able to wiggle the take-down lever while observing the right-side of it to see if it's still intact.
6. If both of the above items appear to be OK, then the only other thing that's preventing your slide from retracting could be the ejector pin not aligned properly with its groove in the slide. Otherwise the hammer in it's upright position should be driven back by the butt-end of the breech block, which should be fairly easy to do manually.
7. I would try to move the slide side-to-side while manually retracting it in order to make sure that the ejector pin is properly engaged in its groove.
8. It seems very unlikely that anything could prevent the hammer from cocking (and staying cocked). Perhaps with a liberal application of OneShot cleaner/lubrication fluid to the front of the breech block I would use a bit more muscle when retracting the slide. I'm not advising that you to wail-away on it; just a good solid yank.
If all else fails, then there's always the mother ship. Good luck with it and please let us know how it all turns out. -S2
ETA: changed "extractor" to "ejector pin" (had a brain fart)
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I did this also and had the same problem with my EZ9
Simple solution
Install the empty magazine. Rack the slide without depressing the grip lock. Problem solved with me.
I know im a newbie but i had the same issue and this is what i did to make it work.
Simple solution
Install the empty magazine. Rack the slide without depressing the grip lock. Problem solved with me.
I know im a newbie but i had the same issue and this is what i did to make it work.
Jared - Sorry to hear about the issue with your EZ9. I wouldn't have known about needing to be pretty careful when breaking it down if it hadn't been for your post. I just picked mine up on Friday. Couldn't be happier with it although I had to pay a scalper's price for it ($460 total). Seems well-built with a smooth even finish. Haven't had a chance to shoot it, but it is a very smooth feeder using dummy rds. Heck, it'll even feed (sized) empty cases! Seemed appropriate to put a CTC laser on it since S&W owns the company. Back on-topic, once I knew the three rules, cocked, on-safe and no-touchee the grip safety it was a breeze to break down and put back together. Looks like TellyD may have cracked the code on the re-assembly issue.
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If the hammer is forward and you cannot remove the slide, lock the slide back as far as you can, remove the rear sight post which will give you access to the top of the hammer from the rear sight post screw hole, use a small screwdriver to press the hammer back as you move the slide in the direction of the hammer and it will release the slide
how to fix .
Had the same problem . Fixed it after much working it out .
Description - There is a condition where the hammer can be triggered while the upper assembly has not yet been fully mounted.
When that happens the hammer is up and the upper assembly can not slide back far enough to move the hammer and cannot go forward to be removed because the hammer is in the way.
I recreated the problem and photo's the solution to getting out of the situation.
On the right hand side of the handgun there is a slight notch normally right above the safety. Insert a small screw driver here and slide the upper receiver back, this will lift the back end of the receiver just enough to clear the back rail catches and still slide back. Once back there should be enough room with the small screwdriver to push the Hammer back and click it back into place.
Remove the screwdriver and slide the upper forward.
Remove the upper and verify that the spring assembly is placed center and the flat sides are to the outside. (not up down) .
Reassemble being careful not to push the handle safety.
Had the same problem . Fixed it after much working it out .
Description - There is a condition where the hammer can be triggered while the upper assembly has not yet been fully mounted.
When that happens the hammer is up and the upper assembly can not slide back far enough to move the hammer and cannot go forward to be removed because the hammer is in the way.
I recreated the problem and photo's the solution to getting out of the situation.
On the right hand side of the handgun there is a slight notch normally right above the safety. Insert a small screw driver here and slide the upper receiver back, this will lift the back end of the receiver just enough to clear the back rail catches and still slide back. Once back there should be enough room with the small screwdriver to push the Hammer back and click it back into place.
Remove the screwdriver and slide the upper forward.
Remove the upper and verify that the spring assembly is placed center and the flat sides are to the outside. (not up down) .
Reassemble being careful not to push the handle safety.
