gunsmith11
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Urban backyard coyote hunting?
- Thread starter oldRoger
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I see two problems here. First, if you're walking a pet, you'll have to wait for an attack to be justified in shooting. Otherwise it could be made to look in court as if you were hunting.
Second, you'd have to be a superb handgun shot to handle the attack you described. Sure, it's only 20', but you'd have just a few seconds to draw and hit a fast-moving target. Add the risk of hitting the pet, and the stress level gets pretty high.
Under those conditions, nearly anything would do. I'd use a fixed-sight Ruger 22 semi-auto loaded with 40-grain hollowpoints.
1. They're accurate enough and powerful enough to kill a coyote at that range, although it may not do so cleanly or quickly. If you hit your own pet by accident, there's a chance it will live until you can get it to the vet, assuming you survive dealing with your family.
2. They're quiet.
3. The 22 LR shoots flat enough for the longer shots you mentioned if you decide to carry out offensive operations. Know your zero, as these guns tend to be zeroed at the factory for about 20m.
4. The fixed sights are fairly small and won't snag on a rapid draw.
5. Unlike your M-63, you can find Rugers in pawn shops for around $200, so if it ends up sitting in an evidence locker for a couple of years, you're not out much.
6. The ammo you'll need to practice enough to make that kind of shot regularly when the chips are down won't put you on the poor farm.
Just remember to police up your brass before you split.
Okie John
Second, you'd have to be a superb handgun shot to handle the attack you described. Sure, it's only 20', but you'd have just a few seconds to draw and hit a fast-moving target. Add the risk of hitting the pet, and the stress level gets pretty high.
Under those conditions, nearly anything would do. I'd use a fixed-sight Ruger 22 semi-auto loaded with 40-grain hollowpoints.
1. They're accurate enough and powerful enough to kill a coyote at that range, although it may not do so cleanly or quickly. If you hit your own pet by accident, there's a chance it will live until you can get it to the vet, assuming you survive dealing with your family.
2. They're quiet.
3. The 22 LR shoots flat enough for the longer shots you mentioned if you decide to carry out offensive operations. Know your zero, as these guns tend to be zeroed at the factory for about 20m.
4. The fixed sights are fairly small and won't snag on a rapid draw.
5. Unlike your M-63, you can find Rugers in pawn shops for around $200, so if it ends up sitting in an evidence locker for a couple of years, you're not out much.
6. The ammo you'll need to practice enough to make that kind of shot regularly when the chips are down won't put you on the poor farm.
Just remember to police up your brass before you split.
Okie John
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Thank's Okie John.
I thought of using my M41, and then decided I wouldn't risk it. The M63 I can stand to have in the sheriff's hands for a while.
There is no reason for me to take the long shot, if he is that far away he can go in peace, and I will grab the pet.
I have no idea how a coyote would react to a shot in these circumstances, if not hit would it depart at high speed?
jimmyl knows the terrain around here its hilly enough that a shot is hard to figure., I suspect it most unlikely that I would receive a visit from the Law.
I thought of using my M41, and then decided I wouldn't risk it. The M63 I can stand to have in the sheriff's hands for a while.
There is no reason for me to take the long shot, if he is that far away he can go in peace, and I will grab the pet.
I have no idea how a coyote would react to a shot in these circumstances, if not hit would it depart at high speed?
jimmyl knows the terrain around here its hilly enough that a shot is hard to figure., I suspect it most unlikely that I would receive a visit from the Law.
CAJUNLAWYER
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Hang a piece of raw chicken on a treble hook about
five or six feet in the air. Some people will think this is
cruel and it is but it works. Don
Hell, that's how you hunt alligators-rotting chicken pieces on a BIG hook suspended about a foot and a half over the water.
Also 500lb test mono with treble hooks in an apple is a good way to snag a deer
BarbC
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Last spring, I shot the P22 off the deck at a feral cat to scare it away.
It's a lot louder than you think! And while the CB caps are much quieter, I don't think they'd be effective on coyotes.
From my understanding, an echoing single shot is hard to poinpoint where it came from, no matter how loud it is.
It's a lot louder than you think! And while the CB caps are much quieter, I don't think they'd be effective on coyotes.
From my understanding, an echoing single shot is hard to poinpoint where it came from, no matter how loud it is.
Barb;
You are correct. In fact the first shot gets your attention, then you can zero in to locate it if there are further shots, although zeroing in isn't as simple and foolproof as it sounds. This is also the argument for making the second shot quickly if it's necessary. The famous double tap is perceived as a single shot sometimes.
My thinking was that the less noise you make, the less likely someone will be concerned enough to comment.
If I shoot a coyote I want it to be lethal, I will certainly be in trouble if I have to follow a wounded animal all over the subdivision, gun in hand.
Roger
You are correct. In fact the first shot gets your attention, then you can zero in to locate it if there are further shots, although zeroing in isn't as simple and foolproof as it sounds. This is also the argument for making the second shot quickly if it's necessary. The famous double tap is perceived as a single shot sometimes.
My thinking was that the less noise you make, the less likely someone will be concerned enough to comment.
If I shoot a coyote I want it to be lethal, I will certainly be in trouble if I have to follow a wounded animal all over the subdivision, gun in hand.
Roger
BarbC
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Crossbow. 
Coyotes killing cats... I fail to see a problem with that.
Don't let your cats run free.
As for dogs, they should be on a leash when you walk them anyway. If they are small then don't leave them outside unattended.
I live in the desert just outside of Tucson. Lots of coyotes, I have two dogs. They are keep inside. When I let them out I step outside with them. Snakes are a far bigger danger here.
Jim
Don't let your cats run free.
As for dogs, they should be on a leash when you walk them anyway. If they are small then don't leave them outside unattended.
I live in the desert just outside of Tucson. Lots of coyotes, I have two dogs. They are keep inside. When I let them out I step outside with them. Snakes are a far bigger danger here.
Jim
I wouldn't, don't, let pets run free.Occasionally we have an escapee but that's brief.
I am only a step behind, as was my neighbor when the coyote grabbed her dog. I am dammed if I think that I should let coyotes dictate my freedom of action. In this case I was here first, the coyotes moved in later.
I am only a step behind, as was my neighbor when the coyote grabbed her dog. I am dammed if I think that I should let coyotes dictate my freedom of action. In this case I was here first, the coyotes moved in later.
Urban Coyote Hunting
Hi, OldRoger:
.38spl 148gr wadcutters with 2.5 to 2.7 Bullseye is a very accurate load with low recoil. After the execution / murder / killing keep the same pace you were walking before the "shot". If a neighbor inquires "car backfire or those darn kids with fire works again"You should be able to finish your walk before the green and whites roll in.
Jimmy
Hi, OldRoger:
.38spl 148gr wadcutters with 2.5 to 2.7 Bullseye is a very accurate load with low recoil. After the execution / murder / killing keep the same pace you were walking before the "shot". If a neighbor inquires "car backfire or those darn kids with fire works again"You should be able to finish your walk before the green and whites roll in.
Jimmy
Spotteddog
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RE: Rifles of Lewis and Clark (air guns)
I still can't figure how to scan that 64' Gun Digest article?
But, I found some more info on that period's medium + caliber air guns.
One is even in video form! Someone should start producing these again for urban varmint hunting.
YouTube - Lewis Clark Air Rifle
Info,
http://www.beemans.net/Lewis & Clark Airgun.htm
Even MORE info!
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Hee, Hee!
YouTube - Career Dragon Slayer .50 caliber air rifle
YouTube - Big Bore Airguns, Up To .50 Cal.
I still can't figure how to scan that 64' Gun Digest article?
But, I found some more info on that period's medium + caliber air guns.
One is even in video form! Someone should start producing these again for urban varmint hunting.
YouTube - Lewis Clark Air Rifle
Info,
http://www.beemans.net/Lewis & Clark Airgun.htm
Even MORE info!
In Progress -
(EDIT)
Hee, Hee!
YouTube - Career Dragon Slayer .50 caliber air rifle
YouTube - Big Bore Airguns, Up To .50 Cal.
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Reloader
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A cb cap will kill a coyote if you can shoot him in the ear..Did in a rabid Greman shepherd years ago that way. 25-40 feet max range from a rifle.
Reloader
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A cb long will kill a coyote if you can shoot him in the ear..Did in a rabid Greman shepherd years ago that way. 25-40 feet max range from a rifle.
They do make em and I see you linked to a couple examples... they are in no means quiet without a silencer of some sort. I have a .50 cal Quackenbush and it makes a good amount of noise.
its the bottom one... 180 grain .495 RB at about 790 fps...
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