Urban backyard coyote hunting?

[oldRoger]

We have forum members, we hear of celebrities, and I have neighbors, all of whom have lost pets to urban coyotes.
A study was made in the Tucson area with radio collared coyotes, in 27 interactions with domestic cats, 19 cats were killed, coyote/dog interactions were not reported. (How could someone watch that?)
Obviously urban coyotes are serious problem, especially since most of us are not permitted to hunt in our neighborhoods, and for many discharge of a firearm is forbidden there.
In general I think the received wisdom from the various threads was go armed, shoot if necessary, don't report the (I hope) kill. Shoot, Shovel, & Shut-up. A single shot may be reported but is very difficult to locate. If caught you plead a perceived threat (we are in an area with rabies), ask for mercy, take your medicine.

So now to work!
Carrying a rifle around is a non-starter. I suppose a suppressed 9mm or .40 would be the ultimate, but I don't have such, and those I have seen do not look very CCW friendly. What I have are various, .357, .40S&W, 10mm, .44spl, &.45acp handguns.
So what advice can anyone give me as to the quietest way to go while being effective?
The longest sight-line I have is 140 feet, 30'-40 'is going to be more typical. I would not be wearing ear protection, the pet, dog or cat would be frightened witless with the report as would the neighbors. I have a M60-10, 3" the target model. I am thinking of those nice old Rem. 158 gr half jacketed soft hollow points, at perhaps 800-850 fps, they do expand.
I really have no idea if any powder/load is quieter than another at that speed. I seem to remember from the old Bullseye Target days without ear protection, that the .38 target loads were not all that loud. Of course I don't hear very well anymore either.

 

[Farmer17]

I use my home defense gun, a Remington 870 youth model 20 gauge with modified choke and Number 3 buckshot. I live in the city and right after they got my Chiuahua and my Scottie, I saw one walking behind my house so I aimed out the back door. It folded him up like a well used Kleenex. A shotgun makes a big WHOOM noise and not a loud crack like a handgun, and I think it would be less likely to alarm the neighbors. One shot is all I would try at a time and then I would stay inside the house and not answer the door or the phone till the next day!

 

[Andy Griffith]

Bow, crossbow or suppressed .22.

 

[ElToro]

crossbow...
no season on coyote in PRK...

 

[buckeyeshooter1]

Although I'm in a suburb in an unincorporated area, I am in a 40 unit housing development. Any heard report would bring a visit from the Sherrif's department I believe. My solution for coyotes and other vermin is a 22short from a rifle. I use an old remington pump. Were I in your situation, I would opt for the same. You can purchase a take down design-- like the remington pump, a marlin 39 or even the old AR-7 design. I can be put in a small soft case and carried under the seat or out of sight. Report with a short is non existant, all you hear is the firing mechanism. Place the shot in the head behind the ear--- dead vermin.

 

[Spotteddog]

Your talking an environment that could really bring down the hounds of Hell if what you use misses and/or over penetrates? A cross bow bolt off of a medium weight pull for me please. I only say this because I can only begin to imagine how neighbors 75'-100' away would react to gun shots around here! I'd rather be on the 10 most wanted list!
(EDIT) IIRC, in the 1964' Gun Digest they did a spread on the "Guns of Lewis and Clark". It described in some detail how pneumatic large bores were brought with, due to there being doubt about black powder availability en route. The illustration of one in the article had a sphere attached below where the lock work would be on a flint lock. One drawing even showed what was assumed to be repair "patch" on the pneumatic holding chamber. Wouldn't something like that some 2 centuries later be just the ticket! Sorry, I can't produce the book instantly? It was the one in red background with the .45ACP Luger prototype and the 1893' Borchardt on the covers, 1964'.

 

[oldRoger]

I appreciate the replies.
I am looking for something I can carry concealed when walking pets. I have a Modified 10/22 with Aimpoint which I could use if I saw one from the house, it's not noisy at all. I very seldom see a coyote, I hear them a lot and close. A neighbor lost her small dog out on the street it was running prob 20' ahead of her. Coyote ran 20' across the berm out into to the road, grabbed the dog, and kept on running across to the other side, total from cover to cover probably 90'.
I have an M63 that I could carry, I was concerned that the .22lr wouldn't get the job done.

 

[oldRoger]

Spotteddog; I do have some extenuating circumstances. I doubt if a single shot would bother much of anyone we are all sealed in our AC houses. Neighbors are troubled by coyotes. Ground is rolling, only a doofus would likely overshoot here. A guy in the next sub-shoots legally. My house is not visible from the street.
I shoot .22 in my garage frequently.

 

[Farmer17]

You could get a folding stock for your 10/22 and carry it in a pack or under a long jacket. A rifle is MUCH quieter than a pistol and you can use .22 CB Longs that will function through the magazine on a 10/22. They don't have enough power to work the bolt but you can manually work it like a bolt-action rifle, and have pretty fast repeat shots until the magazine is empty. They are extremely quiet out of a rifle barrel and are about as loud as a .177 air rifle, and I can't imagine anyone complaining about the noise. The rifle will give enough velocity and accuracy so a head shot will be quickly fatal for the "yote".

 

[HAWKEYE10]

Hang a piece of raw chicken on a treble hook about
five or six feet in the air. Some people will think this is
cruel and it is but it works. Don

 

[Alpo]

Your talking an environment that could really bring down the hounds of Hell if what you use misses and/or over penetrates? A cross bow bolt off of a medium weight pull for me please. I only say this because I can only begin to imagine how neighbors 75'-100' away would react to gun shots around here! I'd rather be on the 10 most wanted list!
(EDIT) IIRC, in the 1964' Gun Digest they did a spread on the "Guns of Lewis and Clark". It described in some detail how pneumatic large bores were brought with, due to there being doubt about black powder availability en route. The illustration of one in the article had a sphere attached below where the lock work would be on a flint lock. One drawing even showed what was assumed to be repair "patch" on the pneumatic holding chamber. Wouldn't something like that some 2 centuries later be just the ticket! Sorry, I can't produce the book instantly? It was the one in red background with the .45ACP Luger prototype and the 1893' Borchardt on the covers, 1964'.

Let's wander a little more.

Not the article you mentioned, but some info.

Patent Pending Blog - Patents and the History of Technology: Lewis and Clark's Air Rifle

Buck's base camp

 

[pred]

Hang a piece of raw chicken on a treble hook about
five or six feet in the air. Some people will think this is
cruel and it is but it works. Don

I guess this would work, I wonder though, Will a Coyote scream?
I have heard rabbits scream, And they can be LOUD !
A 22 will work fine as well.
Also, I use dog kibble saoked in anti freeze to keep my mouse population down.
I am a softy though. I would hate to see something not go quick, And would hate to poison a friendly cat/dog/squirrel/raccoon or the like.
So a .22 will work best.
Peter

 

[Spotteddog]

Thanks Alpo!
That one you pictured was described, but not pictured in the 64' Gun Digest. The old pen/ink print they reproduced looked like any period rifle. However below what would have been the lock work on it, just ahead of the trigger guard was a steel sphere, that if drawn to scale, would have been something on the order of 7"-10" in diameter. It's been so long since reading the article I can't recall whether it's reservoir and pump were integral? I'll dig it out and see if I can muddle through how to scan and post! Thanks again for going to the trouble on that link!

 

[gizamo]

I wonder if you found a beater .22 Semi handgun, clipped coils off the slide spring and set it up to shoot and cylcle .22 Subsonics reliably...if that wouldn't be the cats meow...

giz

 

[mtheo]

Large HavaHeart trap and a 55 gal barrel filled w/ water...that way you can pardon the innocent. That's how I deal w/ the destructive vermin around here. I don't like the idea of shooting anything amongst residences.

Will coyotes enter a box style trap?

 

[perrazi]

if you can have them, an integrally suppressed ruger target auto pistol is just the ticket. looks like a longer barreled version of heavy bbl. really aren't that expensive,just need a county sheriff to sign of on it.

 

[oldRoger]

If the consensus is that a .22lr will do the job, then that's my answer. If I could hunt from the veranda I would use a rifle and take my chances with the noise. When I see one (seldom) even opening the door causes it to vanish.
Most of the year it's tee shirt weather here so the concealment which required is usually a IWB holster.
I have tried the 60gr .22lr sub-sonic but nothing I have stabilizes the bullet. I find that round wildly inaccurate it key holes even at 30 feet.
Mostly I expect the varmint to come from the undergrowth and make a grab for its victim, while I am out walking. I will have to practice. If two shots are required so be it. Some of the neighbors would probably help me dig.

 

[TXSWFAN]

This Walther P22 and Yankee Hill Mite suppressor work very well. I shoot subsonic in my media room (into phonebooks) and my wife doesn't hear it.

You can pic up the combo for around $500, plus the $200 stamp for the can.

I use a John's Guns integral suppressed Ruger 10/22 for the longer shots.

 

[jimmyj]

Hi:
From the house to "Target"- a single shot .22 RF rifle with CB Longs.
Walking the Dog - 6" barrel .38 spl Revolver loaded with .38 Target W/C
In the house, before "Firing" turn TV/Radio/Stereo volume up.
Its a good idea to have a ready grave (grave already dug)
Jimmy

 

[oldRoger]

Jimmy;
Thanks, I have some wad-cutters around. You suggest target load, perhaps 3.4grs Bullseye?
Roger