US Customs Service 686 CS-1

My LNIB CS-1 three inch is 2M and is in orignal factory box with manual and warranty card. Wood magna grips are on the gun.

I dont see how it was in service since I bought it NIB at the local store.

The action SEEMS to be MUCH, MUCH better than on any factory revolver I ever owned. MANY people value 3 inch CS'1 revolvers not for the fact that they are rare, but because they EXCELENT guns to shoot and carry.
 
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I ordered the 4" version from Bill Hicks, a distributor that I believe is in MN. Had it shipped to a local FFL here in WV. It was nib with magnas and round butt. Serial was AZB 7299. Sold it a few years later, dang it!
 
I really miss the CS-1 I had & later sold off..
It was a great shooter & carry piece for an L frame..
Found a old picture of it & had to share it..
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I inherited a 3" CS-1 with the 2-M stamp several years ago. It came with the box and the following information;
serial #: aywoxxx
product code#: 104228
Spec Ord#: 8063
Up above where it says Model No. in the top left corner of the label, it has 893.
The box is in great condition and come with the wax paper and generic S&W safety and instruction manual.
If anyone is still following this thread and could tell me if this was a service-used/issued revolver, it'd be greatly appreciated.
It also has the medallion RB grips.
 
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I inherited a 3" CS-1 with the 2-M stamp several years ago. It came with the box and the following information;
serial #: aywoxxx
product code#: 104228
Spec Ord#: 8063
Up above where it says Model No. in the top left corner of the label, it has 893.
The box is in great condition and come with the wax paper and generic S&W safety and instruction manual.
If anyone is still following this thread and could tell me if this was a service-used/issued revolver, it'd be greatly appreciated.
It also has the medallion RB grips.


Only way to tell where it was sent is with a letter from S&W. However since you have the matching box it is probably 99% that it was a overrun gun. The ones that were sent to the Custom Service Armory in Georgia traveled a long ways before they were finally released to the public.
 
What was the "fix" for the unburned powder under the extractor star? Did the malfunctions only occur with the "Treasury" load? Or was it a general problem for all loads shot?
 
My 3in CS-1 factory letters to 1986, shipped to Glynco. It has a serial number prefix of ANA. which as I understand it, also comes back to 1986. My factory letter indicates it was shipped with Hogue grips. They would have to be wood? since Hogue did not make the "goodyear" type grips back then. I got it in 1997. Traded a 2in model 10 and $50 for it. The gun shop owner and I did not know that it was anything "special" at the time. I tried to trade it for a 4in 686 a few years later and was told by one of the biggest/oldest gun dealers in my area that "Smith and Wesson never made a 3in 686". He told me it was cut down and would not trade with me at all. I was not happy and never went back to his shop...but I did do the research and turns out he did me a big favor!
 
My 3in CS-1 factory letters to 1986, shipped to Glynco. It has a serial number prefix of ANA. which as I understand it, also comes back to 1986. My factory letter indicates it was shipped with Hogue grips. They would have to be wood? since Hogue did not make the "goodyear" type grips back then. I got it in 1997. Traded a 2in model 10 and $50 for it. The gun shop owner and I did not know that it was anything "special" at the time. I tried to trade it for a 4in 686 a few years later and was told by one of the biggest/oldest gun dealers in my area that "Smith and Wesson never made a 3in 686". He told me it was cut down and would not trade with me at all. I was not happy and never went back to his shop...but I did do the research and turns out he did me a big favor!

Interesting. I have 2 CS-1's. One is a BAU, and one is a AYW. Looks like they made the 3281 of these in different production runs.
 
Factory letter...the second paragraph is interesting. Vague description of the grips that came with it.

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Factory letter...the second paragraph is interesting. Vague description of the grips that came with it.

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Hmmmmmmm. Your AYD, and my AYW were delivered to civilian shops. My later BAU was delivered to Customs Service.

So instead of the LEO's getting their guns and the remainder going to civilians, with this it was the opposite? :confused:
 
Hmmmmmmm. Your AYD, and my AYW were delivered to civilian shops. My later BAU was delivered to Customs Service.

So instead of the LEO's getting their guns and the remainder going to civilians, with this it was the opposite? :confused:

Hmmm is right...Good question.

...As to surviving original "issued" CS-1s, SmithNut again provides much interesting information. Approximately 2500 686 CS-1s were released through the Sales Exchange Program before then Attorney General Janet Reno ended that program and ordered federally owned service weapons destroyed rather than sold. Additionally some 686 CS-1s were returned to the factory for service/repair and were released into distribution rather than being returned to the Customs Service.

It is an educated guess that perhaps this account for the relatively frequent appearance of 686 CS-1s bearing the 2M stamp and still having original matching boxes.
maybe mine could be part of that group (???)...and I noticed that Grousehawker's (post # 26), with a AYW prefix, was shipped the day after.
 
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Guys, I have absolutely no technical knowledge to contribute to this particular thread. I'd just like to say "thanks" for the enormous amount of fascinating info posted here about this S&W service revolver. Despite being a fan of the service revolver, and owning a few damned good ones myself, I never knew S&W built them to custom TOLERANCES, let alone variations in stocks/grips, sights, hammers/triggers, and barrel length. Now I find myself wanting a CS-1........
 
This thread impelled me to search my notes on my sole 4" CS-1. I found a notation quoting Roy Jinks, taken either from an old Forum post or Journal article, that 3,281 3" and 5,419 4" models were produced (with some CS-2 and CS-3 variations), and another FWIW notation (non-referenced) that approximately 950 were released for commercial sales.

For the data-collectors: my sample, s.n. ANC 88xx, 686-1, is a standard matte-finished 4" round-butt CS-1 with a pinned black Baughman front blade, black rear sight blade, and RB walnut grips.The box label reads 104229, SO 6164, and a Julian date of June 13, 1986. I purchased it in January 1987 from the local factory S&W distributor/GS.

There is another story buried somewhere in the Forum archives recounting that a great number of the US Customs withdrawn-inventory went to the crushers and welding torches during Slick Willy's administration, as referred in the above posts by the USCS agent that carried them.

Cheers,

Sverre
 
When the CS-1's came into the field they were looked at as being too big and heavy for many agents to conceal or carry. Since most of the Special Agents work is done in plain clothes, the large, heavy revolver was just not a welcome sight. At the time the Customs Service policy allowed agents to carry personally owned handguns. So many agents opted to carry personally owned weapons.

What weapons did agents use instead of the CS-1s?
 
jughed440 when I began this thread SmithNut was not present. I am glad to see that he has returned to the board. :) I started this thread because at the time, there were many questions about CS1 revolvers and little in the way of answers provided. As I stated previously, I provided ONLY information from past posts/threads that was no longer available. No personal correspondence or Emails.

SmithNut is the expert on the CS1 revolvers, as well as almost all things S&W. ;) I am but a lowly end user who accumulates revolvers.

Hopefully SmithNut will see your questions and provide better information than I am able. Regards 18DAI
 
Serial numbers...............

It scares me when someone labels me as an expert... makes it so they might think I know something.... big stretch. 18DA1, thank you for keeping the old info alive with this post, appreciate your efforts.

The CS-1 was a fascination to me when they were first hitting the streets, made possible through the "Sales Exchange" program that the US government ran back then. That practice was terminated by Ms. Reno during the Clinton administration, as I was told by folks at Glynco back when I was looking for info on this model.

When they came out I started out doing research for an article that I drafted but never published, so my info is a tad dated as it was assembled in the late 1994, early 1995 timeframe.

A general comment about serial numbers..... When S&W went to the new 3Alpha4Numeric numbering system they migrated all production to this methodology. With rare exception, reserved serial number blocks are not seen outside of the Performance Center runs. This means that you will see guns in a specific shipment with numbers that may not even be close to each other as they are assigned somewhere in the production run and may not necessarily be consistent within a model, frame size, etc., You may find a 3Alpha4Numeric number for say a M36, with the next number being assigned to a M5906, or some other permutation. Again, this is a general statement, with standard production guns I'm sure there are some reserved blocks assigned to specific production guns, but it's not often seen.

The reason I mention this is due to the questions about the CS-1 serial number questions above need to be considered with respect to how the factory assign s/n's (see above paragraph).

In my limited research back in 94/95, I saw many s/n prefixes on some of the guns my local dealer(s) got, with no specific pattern. I found one of my note files with some of the guns I inspected in the NW and location where they shipped are noted below:

Serial Number Brl.

BAU1002 3”

Shipped to US Customs
Glynco, GA
8-17-88
Factory records show 3”, RB
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ANE6585 3”
Shipped to Joe Parker, Director
US Customs
Glynco, GA
10-14-86
Factory records show 3”, RB
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AWP2235 3”
Originally shipped from factory July, 1987 (to Customs)
Returned to factory March, 1988
Shipped to Ellett Brothers
Cape Bend, S. Carolina
May, 1988
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AYD4957 4”
Shipped to Accu Sports
Ohio
Shipped 12-18-87
Factory records show 4”, RB
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BAU1106
Shipped to US Customs
Glynco, GA
9-24-88
Factory records show 3”, RB
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AVE9293
Shipped to Joe Parker, Director
US Customs
Glynco, GA
10-14-86
Factory records show 3”, RB
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BAB8029
Shipped to US Customs
Glynco, GA
3-15-88
Factory records show 3”, RB

As you can see from the limited sample above, the ship dates of the ones we saw initially up here were scattered in the 86/88 timeframe, and serial number prefixes included ANE, AVE, AWP, AYD, BAU, BAB...... all over the place as I would expect given the s/n assignment methodology the factory was/is using since converting around 1980 to this system.

By no means is this definitive, but it's indicative of what I think you'll find with the CS-1 gun serial numbers out there.
 
Thank you SmithNut for the education you provided ALL OF US on these fine revolvers. Were it not for you putting up with our endless questions, I'd have missed out on this fine 686 variant.

As always, I have one more CS1 question. ;)

Has anyone a copy, or has anyone read the actual US Customs service requirements for accuracy and durability required of these 686 CS1 variants? Thanks! Regards 18DAI
 
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