VIRGIN ISLAND vs GUNS

[Muss Muggins]

Sorry, sir, but they are afforded the protections of the US Constitution and BofR:
United States Virgin Islands - Wikipedia

Read up on it a little more, using something besides Wikipedia. As an example, why aren't they represented in Congress with a voting member? That's one protection not afforded. Whatever U.S. taxes they may or may not pay are enforced without representation . . .

 

[Muss Muggins]

The only reason that they don't have a constitution is because it has to be approved by the US congress. Now what could possibly go wrong there.

Nope. It's never come to a vote in the U.S. They can't agree on one to send . . .

 

[OLDNAVYMCPO]

The constitution approved by the Constitutional Convention of the Virgin Islands of 2009 was rejected by the US Congress in 2010.

 

[Muss Muggins]

The constitution approved by the Constitutional Convention of the Virgin Islands of 2009 was rejected by the US Congress in 2010.

Well, Congress actually said "Hey, try to work on this some more." They tried, but couldn't agree on anything to send back . . . .

Apparently the biggest issue is the Virgin Islands' refusal to accept U.S. sovereignty. Given that, I guess taking guns from the public is probably pretty easy there . . .

 

[vytoland]

its a known fact.....guns are the leading cause of hurricanes....i read it on the internet news.....

 

[JSR III]

US Constitution, Fifth Amendment (emphasis added)

That sounds great but it looks like they are not afforded the full protection of the U.S. Constitution.

 

[Arik]

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

US Constitution, Fifth Amendment (emphasis added)

They do not completely follow the US Constitution. Even though they are US citizens they cannot vote for the President unless they reside in the 50 states. Anyone moving to the Virgin islands cannot vote for the President unless they move back to one of 50 states. They can participate in the nominating process. They are not represented in Congress

They are lands under the sovereignty of the federal government (but not part of any state) that were given a measure of self rule by the Congress through an Organic Act subject to the Congress' plenary powers under the territorial clause of Article IV, sec. 3, of the U.S. Constitution

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[g-dad]

Did anyone hear the conversation Tucker Carlson had with the Gov. of V.I. tonight? When Carlson pressed the Gov about it there was a lot of fumbling and stumbling in his response and he (Gov) finally said if the National Guard was short of ammo or guns they were authorized to go into retail stores and buy what they needed. Can anyone say Bravo Serra?

 

[OLDNAVYMCPO]

That Governor had more dance steps than Fred Astaire. He quibbled and obfuscated the entire interview, never giving a straight answer even though Tucker had a copy of the order and read it verbatim.

 

[e3mrk]

Its called emergency Gun Control and just like after katrina if they are lucky to even get their guns back they will most likely be ruined.

 

[GaryS]

I was going to comment that I hoped the Governor didn't get whiplash slamming his position into reverse so quickly. I rather doubt that they'll try any confiscations now, since Fox News and Tucker made it a national story. The NRA is already on it as well.

That Governor had more dance steps than Fred Astaire. He quibbled and obfuscated the entire interview, never giving a straight answer even though Tucker had a copy of the order and read it verbatim.

 

[GaryS]

BS it may be (and is), but he's now gone on the record saying that there will be no gun confiscation from private citizens. If he renegs on that, he can expect a lot of back lash.

Did anyone hear the conversation Tucker Carlson had with the Gov. of V.I. tonight? When Carlson pressed the Gov about it there was a lot of fumbling and stumbling in his response and he (Gov) finally said if the National Guard was short of ammo or guns they were authorized to go into retail stores and buy what they needed. Can anyone say Bravo Serra?

 

[italiansport]

I listened to T. Carlson's interview with the V.I. Governor and the look of disbelief on Carlson's face as the governor danced all around the question was priceless! This Governor made have just set a new standard for obfuscation!
Jim

 

[rwsmith]

When people were trying......

When people were trying to get to their property on the islands after Hugo a friend told me he heard full auto fire one night.

People were REALLY pissed that they wouldn't let anybody back on the island.

 

[Watchdog]

 

[Watchdog]

Why am I not surprised, and why won't I be surprised tomorrow when a certain person at work brings it up and starts ranting?

Probably for the same reasons you aren't surprised to see people ranting and arguing about it here.

 

[Watchdog]

I wonder if Richard Branson surrendered his guns??? Hmm???

Branson lives on a private island (Necker Island) in the British Virgin Islands, not the U.S. Virgin Islands. Whether or not he even has any guns there is a matter of conjecture.

 

[Watchdog]

What does this have to do with the continental US.

Nothing.

This has been debunked as fake news FYI

No, it has not.

There must be something here that I'm missing, I'm not sure how this is "fake news"...

You aren't missing a thing. People will misinterpret something one way, then other people will misinterpret something else another way. And that just leads to one contradictory and pointless discussion after another with everyone getting their bowels in an uproar.

I can't say for sure simply because I don't know, but I have a feeling that if Irma devastates the U.S.V.I. to the degree it did other islands, I'm thinking the last thing the national guard or any other agency will be occupied with is going door to door taking guns from people. And if someone's home is flattened into a pile of rubble only a foot high, they'll be doing good to even find their gun.

 

[Golddollar]

Did anyone hear the conversation Tucker Carlson had with the Gov. of V.I. tonight? When Carlson pressed the Gov about it there was a lot of fumbling and stumbling in his response and he (Gov) finally said if the National Guard was short of ammo or guns they were authorized to go into retail stores and buy what they needed. Can anyone say Bravo Serra?

When dealing with government agencies, lender's counsels and/or legal documents I always went by what they COULD do, not what they said they would do. I'm sure I was probably cussed about a lot for it. The Governor of the Virgin Islands was probably mad that he got caught before he could order any gun seizures.

 

[SC_Mike]

Sounds to me like Gov. Kenneth Mapp needs to allocate money to equip his national guard.

What's the best caliber for a hurricane anyway?