VVN 310 for 38 special???

[ankona]

Anyone using VVN 310 to load 38 special with FFJ or JHP's. If so what bullet weight, bullet type , coal, and load data. I've also got 231 but came into 8 pounds of the VVN310 which I've been usiong with 45acp.

 

[Brandon]

The real question is where you scored 8 pounds of N310

 

[Abflyboy]

The real question is where you scored 8 pounds of N310

Yeah. What gives?

Congrats on the powder score!

Probably not what you are looking for, unless it's just some confidence, but I have been using N310 in my "light" .357 mag loads behind a 125gr XTP. Super happy with it and I wish I could score 8 pounds like that.

 

[rwsmith]

Can't help....

Don't need to have Vihtavuori tastes on a Bullseye budget.

 

[stu1ritter]

The VV reloading manual does not list any loads for N310 for the 38 Special. The fastest powder they list is N320.

 

[Calliope]

Too fast for jacketed bullets in any revolver caliber IMO.

 

[ankona]

Well thanks for the replies guys. I use a lot of this loading 45 acp target loads (4.2 gn behind a 230 gn FMJ Zero Bullet). Nice clean & accurate load. I may try the .357 load and stick with Win 231 for the 38's. As far as scoring the two 4 pound jugs it wasn't easy. I keep an internet search robot on my cell phone called "gunbot.com" which searches the net for powder, primers, bullets, brass, etc. This shows all newly listed items with the vendor and how long it has been in stock. When something pops up you call pronto and order via the phone.

 

[.41 cal]

Posted this a few month ago.

I found a reload data sheet .pdf from WM bullets GmbH that shows 3.6g with 158g LSWC moly lubed for 789fps out of a 6" 686. It is described as softe top load.
It's a German data sheet and "top load" looks to be an accuracy remark.
Little different as they do not use a start to max load format but have remarks like Mehr niicht,!!! Top load which looks to a max load.
Was the only 158g published data I could find for N310 or N320.

.41 cal

 

[Abflyboy]

Too fast for jacketed bullets in any revolver caliber IMO.

Will you please clarify for me? What does a super fast burning powder do to jacketed bullets?

 

[Calliope]

The margin for error gets mighty small when using jacketed bullets in revolver calibers with super fast powders like N310 or Clays. A few too many flakes of powder can push the pressures over the top.

Lead bullets, having less friction, are a little more forgiving. The .45 auto is even more forgiving because it takes less pressure to get the bullet moving.

That's why you don't see the super fast powders listed for jacketed revolver loads very often. Hodgdon lists Clays for .357/158 LWSC, but not for the 158 JHP as one example.

Maybe that's not a good scientific explanation, but from everything I've read over the past 25 years, you don't want to put the fastest powders into 38/357 with jacketed bullets.

I love N310, but will only use it in .45 auto. I loaded up a bunch of SWC's with it today.

 

[Abflyboy]

This is the load data I am using for my .357 Mag 125gr XTP's

.357 Magnum - Handgun reloading - Reloading Data - Vihtavuori