Walking Away

[steelslaver]

I think it is a case of a few making many look bad. You see it everywhere
Slob hunters
Slob gun owners
Jerk customers
Bad Doctors
crummy guns
All get focused on

A few over jealous bully cops get the focus.

 

[old bear]

I hope only the bad ones walk away... so few they won't be missed

We all hope this will be the case. Yet the good ones, in most cases will have no problems finding Good employment in other locations or in totally different fields. The bad ones will have limited other employment options, will stay.

As there will be a dire need for bodies to fill out manpower requirements, and top quality people are not staying, or willing to apply, the next step will be to lower the hiring standards. This could lead to the bad training Some people who, no matter how well meaning, should not have been hired in the first place.

 

[Maddog 521]

I just read that 292 NYC PD members have been injured in the madness. I wonder how many of those will come back?

 

[jscheck]

My retirement date is 03/31/21. Can I work longer? Yes. Will I? No. I am proud of my work. I've never treated anyone poorly or disrespected anyone. Law enforcement has changed, the court system has changed, public opinion and appreciation has changed. My wife fears for my safety in a way she hasn't before. It's a shame things have gone this far. I don't for a minute condone the behavior of that officer. As stated previously, the bad ones get weeded out pretty quickly but this mess is going to cost the country a lot of good dedicated LEOs.

 

[TTSH]

I fear this is just the next step in a long standing plan.

Sure seems that way, doesn't it?

 

[old bear]

My retirement date is 03/31/21.

Sir if there is anyway you can, find yourself a nice quite inside job. As they used to say become a "House Mouse." You have paid your DUES..

 

[Grayfox]

Memphis is desperate for new cops. Its not uncommon for a young person to get hired, get trained, serve just a few years and then start applying for a police job elsewhere. They never really wanted to work there. They just needed a place to start.
I imagine a lot of big cities have the same problem.

 

[Jon651]

Everything changes, even something as staid as law enforcement. As with every other industry you have to be flexible enough to roll with the times - even if you believe the changes are objectionable or counter-productive. If you don't like what will happen then put in the work to adapt, be part of the change process yourself, and/or educate those who are forcing the change on you. Like it or not change is now in the wind, and if anyone is willing to simply walk away from their career you've got to wonder just how adaptable and flexible that person was to begin with.

There are lots of historical examples of change both large and small forced on many different organizations and industries, and every one where the people successfully adapted made things much better as a result. It all comes down to this simple Darwinism: Evolve or die.

 

[Triathloncoach]

The police are heroes that protect us. This is absurd. The criminals need reform, let's see how much this helps.

 

[Old Arkansawyer]

One of the problems is that, for years, the good police do not police the
bad actors in their ranks.
Here in Arkansas a highway patrol officer gut shot a man with
a 12 gauge. The guy was autistic and was just walking down the
road and when shot was lying on his back in the ditch. This patrolman
was supposed to be directing traffic a 1/4 mile down the highway
but took it upon himself to drive down a kill the guy. The state had
to pay the family for a wrongful death, but let the patrolman retire
and draw his pension. Oh, did I mention this guy had already killed
his own brother in a past shooting? Why he was allowed to remain
on the force and pack a gun is beyond my understanding. In my
opinion he should have been convicted of 2nd degree murder and
be down at Cummings or Tucker farm today chopping cotton in the
hot sun. BTW, not a word from any cop condemning this act.
So as I said start by weeding out and condemning the bad and just
maybe there will not be as many trigger incidents that result in the
protest.

 

[Kanewpadle]

Everything changes, even something as staid as law enforcement. As with every other industry you have to be flexible enough to roll with the times - even if you believe the changes are objectionable or counter-productive. If you don't like what will happen then put in the work to adapt, be part of the change process yourself, and/or educate those who are forcing the change on you. Like it or not change is now in the wind, and if anyone is willing to simply walk away from their career you've got to wonder just how adaptable and flexible that person was to begin with.

There are lots of historical examples of change both large and small forced on many different organizations and industries, and every one where the people successfully adapted made things much better as a result. It all comes down to this simple Darwinism: Evolve or die.

It's not that easy. Change needs to happen on both sides. But not everyone agrees with that. They want things to be one sided.

The self perpetuated downward spiral has been happening for far too long. The change needs to start there.

 

[Triathloncoach]

One of the problems is that, for years, the good police do not police the
bad actors in their ranks.
Here in Arkansas a highway patrol officer gut shot a man with
a 12 gauge. The guy was autistic and was just walking down the
road and when shot was lying on his back in the ditch. This patrolman
was supposed to be directing traffic a 1/4 mile down the highway
but took it upon himself to drive down a kill the guy. The state had
to pay the family for a wrongful death, but let the patrolman retire
and draw his pension. Oh, did I mention this guy had already killed
his own brother in a past shooting? Why he was allowed to remain
on the force and pack a gun is beyond my understanding. In my
opinion he should have been convicted of 2nd degree murder and
be down at Cummings or Tucker farm today chopping cotton in the
hot sun. BTW, not a word from any cop condemning this act.
So as I said start by weeding out and condemning the bad and just
maybe there will not be as many trigger incidents that result in the
protest.

I'd like to read the news coverage of this story.

 

[Big Cholla]

Some areas that are identifiable today will have martial law imposed sometime in the future.

I am very disturbed by the happenings vis a vis the police in areas with the ultra liberal/socialistic leadership they have elected.

 

[Kanewpadle]

Some areas that are identifiable today will have martial law imposed sometime in the future.

I am very disturbed by the happenings vis a vis the police in areas with the ultra liberal/socialistic leadership they have elected.

Yeah, I was laughing at them in the news this morning. They're mad because cops are wearing protective gear and carrying batons. But it's okay to throw IED's at the cops.

 

[Onomea]

I'd like to read the news coverage of this story.

This looks like the incident: Shooting of Joseph Erin Hamley - Wikipedia

My niece is a newly minted state trooper. I am very proud of her, and of all the young people who sign up for this role. I hope the older, experienced, judicious lawmen, like those of you on this board, stick around long enough to help educate them.

Reading Faulkner's stories has made me realize there is so much more to being a good cop than simply enforcing the law.

 

[sceva]

Amen to that; I am surprised that more don't retire or find other employment. I see things like the restaurant employees that walked off the job rather than fill a carryout order for the Ohio State patrol and my first thought was that they better not need LE help soon.

By the way; in regard to the first post, We do not have a Democracy. We have a Republic; a Democratic Republic but it is a Republic.
A pure Democracy is Majority rules and they historically do not last long before falling into an Anarchy. fear we are heading there.

 

[hoppes-no9]

police are the only ones standing between a democracy and anarchy.

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I do not accept this.

This country established its independence and secured our freedoms not by the police, but by the PEOPLE. We can do it again.

 

[ladder13]

Always the right of center are the only ones who need to accept change and compromise. Meaning, move left. I refuse.

 

[Faulkner]

By the way; in regard to the first post, We do not have a Democracy. We have a Republic; a Democratic Republic but it is a Republic.
A pure Democracy is Majority rules and they historically do not last long before falling into an Anarchy. fear we are heading there.

Fair enough regarding our representative republic, I made a slight edit.

I do not accept this.

This country established its independence and secured our freedoms not by the police, but by the PEOPLE. We can do it again.

You're right on how our country was founded, but at this point in our country's history we're not trying to establish independence, but push back against lawlessness and enforce the laws established by the representatives of the people.

 

[Smoke]

Fair enough regarding our representative republic, I made a slight edit.

Even with their imperfections, police are on the front lines holding back the forces of anarchy.

I didn't agree with the original (pre edited) statement on ANY level