Watched a Guy Drop His Carry Weapon

Ok, let me first say that overall, Louisiana is a very friendly gun state. Some of our laws originated in the southern part of the State by gun grabbing Democrats and some police agencies that are against gun ownership by citizens. Many of the original laws have been done away with.

Yes, it is illegal to carry a firearm into any police station, court house, federal building, municipal complex, voting precint or pretty much any government owned property. I was under the impression that is the case in most areas across the US.

That is not the case in Missouri, either. There are very few places in our state that it is unlawful for a valid CCW permit holder to carry a concealed firearm. Those that come under Federal Jurisdiction notwithstanding, obviously.

As to a gun falling from a holster, it should not if the holster is for that model gun and the holster has retention. Most good holsters have a retaining strap that holds the gun securely.

I have a few shoulder rigs that I can switch just the holsters out that enables me to change gun models as I wish. One holster is for a slightly wider semi than my wonderful S&W 1911. My 1911 will fall out of that holster at the drop of a hat unless the retaining strap is in place. The holster made for the 1911 is holds the 1911 securely without the retaining strap but I still use the strap for an added amount of security.

Personally I do not like the composite, plastic or nylon holsters. Many tend to leave marks on the guns carried in them. The also do not mold to fit the body and are therefore less comfortable.

The leather/Kydex hybrids work very well, IMO. They are the optimum in comfort next to the body, they provide a perfect molded fit, they have excellent retention without the use of cumbersome straps, and can be had to fit literally any handgun on the market. I don't worry about too much about a couple of minor "marks" on my carry guns. "Pretty" is not one of the criteria I have for a defensive weapon.
 
My carry guns are shot and carried quite a bit, and tend to pick up more than their fair share of dings. I consider them as good things!

Early on after I started carrying, I used a cheaper holster, but still from a name company. I just didn't spring for the reinforced mouth that allowed easy reholstering, and it was a multi-model bucket style iwb. Sucked, really bad. Had a SIG 239 dump out in a restroom, thankfully it had full wall between it and anyone else though. Haven't carried that holster since! I also take care of the gun first when dropping trou.
 
Thankfully, I learned my lesson (the easy way) on bathroom gun issues soon after I began carrying. Went to the restroom, sat down and heard the clatter on my tile floor. The gun only dropped a few inches and didn't go off (not that I'd expect it from a striker fired weapon). But, it got my attention. I take great care since then every time. (note: this was at home in my master bathroom, so not in public (thank goodness)
 
I learned my first lesson at home too. I took my carry gun from my bedside holster, set it on the bed and then decided to straighten the comforter. At least there was no discharge other than a little blood from my pinky toe.
 
Ok, let me first say that overall, Louisiana is a very friendly gun state. Some of our laws originated in the southern part of the State by gun grabbing Democrats and some police agencies that are against gun ownership by citizens. Many of the original laws have been done away with.

Yes, it is illegal to carry a firearm into any police station, court house, federal building, municipal complex, voting precint or pretty much any government owned property. I was under the impression that is the case in most areas across the US.

As to a gun falling from a holster, it should not if the holster is for that model gun and the holster has retention. Most good holsters have a retaining strap that holds the gun securely.

I have a few shoulder rigs that I can switch just the holsters out that enables me to change gun models as I wish. One holster is for a slightly wider semi than my wonderful S&W 1911. My 1911 will fall out of that holster at the drop of a hat unless the retaining strap is in place. The holster made for the 1911 is holds the 1911 securely without the retaining strap but I still use the strap for an added amount of security.

Personally I do not like the composite, plastic or nylon holsters. Many tend to leave marks on the guns carried in them. The also do not mold to fit the body and are therefore less comfortable.


Oldman45,

I could be wrong on the police station, so I need to double check that. I know here we can't carry in courts or federal buildings either.

As far as many of the plastic holsters leaving marks, I totally agree. All holsters aren't created equal though. More often than not, a quality kydex rig will not ruin the finish. It depends on the plastics being used. A real soft kydex will not harm the finish as long as it is fitted correctly, is the correct thickness, and any sand or dirt is kept out of the holster.

Think of using brass jigs to clean barrels. The brass is softer than the steel barrel, so they don't easily scratch it. The same is true of a quality kydex holster.

I made one as a duty/combat rig that places a lot of retention on the ejection port - a spot where retention is usually released at - and that is the only spot I have really ever noticed any wear. I had the retention so tight that the gun was tearing pieces off the kydex though. The idea of this prototype was for climbing or extreme tactics that a thumb-break is generally needed for. The gun showed a small amount of wear on the corner of the slide of the ejection port from tearing off the kydex. Due to the wear and shaving kydex, I scrapped the design, but it gives an idea of how little a clean quality kydex rig will wear a gun.

In fact, people who run the kydex/leather hybrids typically will see more wear on the leather side due to the friction leather creates. I know leather wore my guns much quicker.

I'm not saying this because I sell kydex holsters. In fact, if you are interested I can give you a list of many great kydex holster companies besides myself, and all of them are contoured to the body for comfortable IWB carry. The retention placed on the trigger guard makes it nearly impossible for the gun to come out unless its intentional and doesn't slow or complicate a draw any.

If leather is still desired, a Milt Sparks is well worth the investment.

My $0.02. YMMV

Steve
Personal Security Systems Kydex Holsters
 
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