Weapon for home- No! They will use it on me. SAD

[bamacisa]

The sad part is that you can not change these peoples mind. They have their mind made up and that is it...period.

 

[cmort666]

If you are worried about an intruder using it against you, I guess it's best to keep a pillow nearby as a weapon....

Why not a 5 Guys cheeseburger and a vodka on the rocks nearby as weapons? I'd rather have those used on me...

 

[Fishslayer]

nah .. dont bother reprogramming them. most often they come with attitudes we find irritating ... let em think we'll air condition their chests at the drop of a hat ... keeps em out of our hair and lends to a peaceful existence.

Unfortunately their votes count just as much as ours...

 

[snowman]

@ snowman ...
I used to live in such a place. While it may seem a peaceful flowery Utopia on the surface, with a little digging around you will find evil is alive and well despite what the neighbors say .. which is all too often what they have been told versus what they have actually seen.
Our cities may be host to gang wars and drug traffic, this is the "retail" end of the chain. Its in the rolling hills and peaceful beauty of the country where weed is grown, meth is produced, and all else is processed. Thats how bumbling hikers and hunters end up missing.
Its nothing new really, same old song and dance from the days when moonshine was the meth of the prohibition era.
as hard as we may try, we cant escape it, only stand against it.

venom,

I follow you and agree, but I'm not sure we're on the same page. I wasn't suggesting that there is no "evil" in an area like mine. I monitor the pulse of things by reviewing the police and court dockets regularly in area newspapers. Yes, there is illegal drug activity here and there. Where regions such as this one differ from more heavily populated areas is in the chances of the average resident of being a victim of violent crime. It is extremely rare for that to happen. The only possible exception is domestic cases, and virtually all of these are just a punch or a slap. No hunter here has ever been murdered(There are no hikers -this is the Corn Belt; nothing but flat farmland dotted with woodlots and small towns. . .not hiking territory.). Those involved with the drug culture generally keep to themselves. Exceptions are few and far between.

This is largely what makes the promotion of self-defense measures something of a hard-sell around here. Maybe 99% of the locals live their entire lives without ever experiencing the slightest threat to their physical well-being from another person. To many of these folks, such a thing is virtually inconceivable. And many of these, I believe, find it so uncomfortable to think about that they won't consider arming themselves.

I wonder if you're thinking of more remote, sparsely-populated areas where drug manufacturers find it easier to hide their activities.

Regards,
Andy

 

[venomballistics]

venom,

I follow you and agree, but I'm not sure we're on the same page. I wasn't suggesting that there is no "evil" in an area like mine. I monitor the pulse of things by reviewing the police and court dockets regularly in area newspapers. Yes, there is illegal drug activity here and there. Where regions such as this one differ from more heavily populated areas is in the chances of the average resident of being a victim of violent crime. It is extremely rare for that to happen. The only possible exception is domestic cases, and virtually all of these are just a punch or a slap. No hunter here has ever been murdered(There are no hikers -this is the Corn Belt; nothing but flat farmland dotted with woodlots and small towns. . .not hiking territory.). Those involved with the drug culture generally keep to themselves. Exceptions are few and far between.

This is largely what makes the promotion of self-defense measures something of a hard-sell around here. Maybe 99% of the locals live their entire lives without ever experiencing the slightest threat to their physical well-being from another person. To many of these folks, such a thing is virtually inconceivable. And many of these, I believe, find it so uncomfortable to think about that they won't consider arming themselves.

I wonder if you're thinking of more remote, sparsely-populated areas where drug manufacturers find it easier to hide their activities.

Regards,
Andy

We likely differ only by the paragraph on the page.
area to area the specific industry will differ as one type of geography will support an endeavor better than another.
when its wide open as you describe, your meth labs might not be as numerous as the back woods of WI, but your growing operations will out number WI's as its better supported. none the less a generic "it" exists and may be defended which is where folks not in the know can get jammed up.
yup ... locals do tend to stick their heads in the sand about these things as its a city problem ... right?! nah .. the city end is where its sold, rural end is where its produced and your right, its a hard sell. But what isnt a hard sell in a rural area is the simple fact that your closer to nature out there, and no, nature isnt half the friend they think it is.
packs of Yotes and or wild dogs and or bear, and or fill in the blank IS the pitch you'd find most effective for increasing the number of ready weapons in homes
if it saves em from two legged varmints down the road ... bonus / mission acomplished

 

[10ring]

I have met more than a few people in my life who have told me some version of "I would rather be injured or killed than take a human life" / "I trust in G-d to protect me, so I am not worried and have no need for a gun" "I am probably safer by not being a threat to some criminal than I would be if I was armed." These fall in line with that "he would take my gun away and use it on me" philosophy.

I think they have the right to hold such views and would not impose my views on them or wish them ill.

I just wish they weren't allowed to vote.