Well I think I'm Finally all the way back....maybe.

walkin jack

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You may recall that in May of 2012 I had surgery to remove half of my thyroid and half of my parathyroid. While they were in there they found a very very small "microscopic papillary cancer" (.3 centimeters) and another benign "unspecified mass" It was all mostly routine and I'm fine now but the surgeon ran into a problem and had to keep sending blood sample to the lab and then WAIT FOR RESULTS. Consequently I was under heavy general anesthesia for 8 1/2 hours.

I don't know if any of you have had a similar experience with general anesthesia or not but since my experience I've talked with others that have similar stories and some of them worse than mine. I was left with what I call profound differences in my mind. My perceptions were all different. All my body functions felt different. Food tasted different.

Two of my most dramatic and significant changes were that I lost my taste for sweets. Another and perhaps the biggest change was that I lost all interest in reading for pleasure. I call that a big change because for over 50 years I have read from one to 5 books a week, every week with very few exceptions. I couldn't get enough. Now all of a sudden I have absolutely NO interest in any reading material what so ever.

Scary!

It affected my vision or I should say my visual perception if you can make that distinction, and my ability to react normally to the extent that I didn't operate a motor vehicle for 2 months. I could not tolerate sunglasses for 4 months.

Slowly, very slowly after about 8 months a few things began to return to normal. It took about a year for my perception of how food tasted to come back around. But I still had no interest in reading.

I had a conversation with the lady that cleans my teeth. She said that her dad had cancer surgery and it took him 3 to 4 months to recover from the anesthesia that time. A year and a half later he had another cancer surgery and that time he didn't recover from it at all. The changes it caused in him were permanent.

Scary!!

So after a year and nine months I figure I'm back about as much as I'm going to come back. But then I won the karma for the Massad Ayoob book here on this forum and even though I had to kick myself to get it started I wanted to read this book so I force myself to start it.

It didn't take long for me to get into it and after I finished it last night I thought that I might be ready to start reading again like I used to.

I spent some time today looking through my extensive collection of books and picked out two that I'm going to try to read. One is a Jack Reacher book that was written when Child was still putting a lot of good action in his stories, Gone Tomorrow. The other is book by the late Robert B. Parker, Rough Weather. Parker has long been one of my favorite writers. He is the author of all the Spenser books. They even had a tv series staring Robert Eurich as Spenser. It didn't fly because some of the patterns of speech and violence employed by Mr. Spenser in the book didn't translate to tv very well.

It may not sound like a big deal but to me it is very important for a couple of reasons and it will mean a lot to me if I can re capture this element of myself. I'm askin' y'all to keep your fingers crossed for me. I should know after my attempt to get into it tonight if I'm ready for my big come back.

I'm a little nervous about it but even if I don't have any luck tonight I now feel like that I will eventually be able to. Thanks for any and all good thoughts you can send my way.
 
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You got it! That's not good losing interest in something you enjoyed. Hopefully it will turn around.
Still like firearms? That would be terrible if not. Maybe concentrate on reading things about the interests you still have and it may progress from there. I don't know, for me it's hard to imagine the problem you're having without experiencing it.
Wishing you the best.
 
Jack: That is scary. I've been under a couple of times for surgery, but nothing of a prolonged nature, and certainly nothing that had the profound affects that you describe. I'm glad that you are coming around, and I hope you regain your desire to read. Best wishes sent your way for a full recovery.

van
 
You got it! That's not good losing interest in something you enjoyed. Hopefully it will turn around.
Still like firearms? That would be terrible if not. Maybe concentrate on reading things about the interests you still have and it may progress from there. I don't know, for me it's hard to imagine the problem you're having without experiencing it.
Wishing you the best.

Thanks Jessie! No I didn't lose interest in guns and shooting. God wouldn't do such a cruel thing to me. He might strike me blind or paralyze me but He would never do such a cruel thing as take away my love for my guns and shooting.
 
Thank you Ranger. I am very optimistic and looking forward to getting started. both of the books I pulled out I have read at least twice but it was years ago and with my memory the way it is I don't remember them at all. If there is a beauty to having a bad memory perhaps it is that you only need one book and one movie. And you can still have a new one every time! :D
 
Ya know Jack, it's good to hear stuff like you posted...Not all the bad stuff you've went thru, but making a come back.

Probably 90% or more of us here are no spring chickens any more, so it does take longer to re-coup...

I don't doubt reading can be relaxing. Finding a nice quiet spot and time.

I know it's not the same, but those audio books? My daughter listens to them while she's driving cross country.

Anyway, good to hear you're on the plus side of things now.


WuzzFuzz
 
Glad you are almost back.

I have come out of 'normal' anesthesia with the feeling that my mind was 'changed' but it wore off after a long while. I don't doubt that your experience gave you some real big problems but we are glad you are almost back and I hope you are back to your 'old self' real soon.

This is one reason that even back in the 60s and 70s I never wanted to experience 'mind altering' drugs. I don't want my mind altered.

I can appreciate the reading problem as I've always been an avid reader. I've had bouts of depression where my appetite for reading dropped off. If I read at all it was light junk reading or reading the same stuff over.

There also have been some circumstances, health, mental and the like, that changed me in ways I didn't care for but I've also had some positive changes. Never say never because a life change can really alter your outlook into something you don't recognize.
 
Glad your keeping your chin up-keeping up with a stiff upper lip (howeverthehecksomeonecandothatisbeyondme,butdeservesmyrespect) and when I start to feel down (being a Southerner) I listen to Dixie Land while thinking of the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders attending the next gun show with me. :D

PS, dont scare me with the thought of cancer--but im darned glad your feeling better and my prayers for ya. :-))
 
I had two elbow surgeries under general anesthesia. Propofol, IIRC.

Best sleep of my life. I didn't want to come back.

For a few weeks after, I could drink Tabasco sauce straight from the bottle and it wasn't hot at all.
 
This is something that most people

are unaware of.That stuff has serious consequences.Its great to hear you're fighting your way back! Im the guy that refuses to go under the knife and has gone broke in the process...
 
Listen y'all. I am just overwhelmed. Most of the time I can usually express myself adequately but not always. The kindness and thoughtfulness you all have shown me are a great comfort and have moved me deeply. Shoot, I feel better just from all of your responses. Thank you just seems like a lame thing to say.

Let me elaborate some on the surgery. It was a very necessary operation. I didn't even know about the cancer. They did a biopsy before hand but it was so small no cancer cells were found in any of the 6 plugs they took out of the mass. It is the kind that doesn't spread or metasticize and they got it all with the borders in tact. No Chemo and no radiation. Doc told me it is 100% survivable.

The problem was originally brought to a head by a severe calcium imbalance in my blood. That is a function of the parathyroid. Now that all that is corrected I actually feel about like I did 10 years ago. I no longer have to take pain pills for my arthritis and my hands and hips are relatively pain free. Before the surgery I was waking up every night from the pain and having to take pain meds that didn't help that much.

The only negative aspect of the deal was the problems with the after effects of the anesthesia. I'm fixin' to hit the sack now and start reading for the fist time 21 months. If it's a go, and I fully expect it to be, Then I'm back. I still like broccoli and brussle sprouts which I didn't before the surgery but I don't eat 'em in public so no one knows about that. :rolleyes:

Thanks again for all the support it means a lot!
 
I'm glad you're this far back. Glad you are Here, too.
I'd be really upset if my taste for reading died.
As far as chow is concerned, I should be so lucky that
it all tasted bad.
You need to post more stuff on here. We'll drag you back,
if we have to.
TACC1
 
I had surgery a few years back under general anesthesia with no ill effects whatsoever, just a large scar. Have you spoken with your doctor about this? Regardless, I hope you get better.
 
Healing

I have heard of these things happening to open heart operations mostly taste . Keep your mind active , your moving in the positive direction . Keep movin OldSeabee
 
When younger I had reconstructive knee surgery and was under for 3 hours. I don't remember any loss of my like for reading books or other issues. I do remember how hard it was to wake up.

I once was a compulsive reader. In school I was the guy at awards time that won the library award for reading the most books. Boy did my friends the jocks let me have it. It was for quantity, not quality. The Stan Musial Story, Mickey Mantle, the NFL story, history, military, anything on hunting or fishing, yep schools had books on firearms once upon a time.

It seems I failed to read about how to split the Atom or physics made easy and the biggie, computers really are important and how one might get filthy rich in that field.

Since I've retired I've been reading more.

Welcome back Jack.
 
Looks like I'll be makin' lots of trip to the library From now on. :) Read over 100 pages and woke up at 3:10 AM with my reading glasses still on and the book laying closed on my chest. I knew in an instant that it was all gonna be okay.

I believe that I'm actually 100% back. It is possible that some of the more subtle differences are still with me and I just got used to them but even if that's the case I feel good and I am me again. :p :D

someone asked if I had discussed this with my doctor. I have and the answers I got were vague and basically uninformative. They all say about the same thing. In a nut shell it's "anything is possible."
 
Ya know why it's called "practicing medicine"?

Because they practice on you until they get it right.

To any doctors on the forum: Don't get mad. My grandfather was a surgeon.



Trouble is, 12 years after my elbow surgeries, I'm starting to have trouble with the medial and radial tendons in my left elbow again.
If not for cordless power tools, I may not still be to do my job.
 
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