I went (140 miles) to where I buy my reloading stuff from (powder and Primers) It was really good to walk in and see gunpowder for sale. He had basically every powder that I use or have used in stock. Had pounds and 4 or 8 pound jugs of everything I was looking for. I picked up a pound of Unique and Bullseye for my 45 caliber stuff. I had never used an alliant powder but for $17.44 a pound I can sure try it.
Went to my Reloading Store today!!
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arizona98tj
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Grover....that is excellent pricing for powder....any manufacturer's powder, IMO. 
FWIW, I've been using Unique and Bullseye for my handgun range practice loads since I started back in the '70s. If it sucked, I would have ditched it long, long ago.
FWIW, I've been using Unique and Bullseye for my handgun range practice loads since I started back in the '70s. If it sucked, I would have ditched it long, long ago.
Maddmax
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Grover....that is excellent pricing for powder....any manufacturer's powder, IMO.
FWIW, I've been using Unique and Bullseye for my handgun range practice loads since I started back in the '70s. If it sucked, I would have ditched it long, long ago.
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Only thing I found was it was a bit dirty (back then),but both did work great. It was a very popular powder. I started off using HS-6 in my 45 and was having a hard time finding it on and off.MichiganScott
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Unique has been reformulated over the years. It is no longer quite as dirty, but still does not meter near as well as ball powders. I still use it in my 230gr. hardball loads.
I believe the original WWI service loads were with Bullseye, so you can't go wrong. Just be diligent about double charges.
I believe the original WWI service loads were with Bullseye, so you can't go wrong. Just be diligent about double charges.
Maddmax
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That's why (if I can),use powder that fills the case over half.
I have noticed with the newer powders,the burn rate has emproved and more consistant over the years too.
How about primers? They were in short supply the last time. That's why I have about 10,000 on the shelf now.
rootbrain
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Just a question I've always wondered about. Do you need license or permit or ? to get reloading supplies?
Especially gunpowder. Wouldn't want that in the hands of just anyone.
Rootbrain
Especially gunpowder. Wouldn't want that in the hands of just anyone.
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MichiganScott
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Hope this question is tongue in cheek, because in spite of who we have in the Whitehouse this is still a free nation.
I believe there is an age requirement.
Maddmax
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Trust me. You can do way more damage with what is out there on the net than you'd ever be able to do with regular gunpowder and much much easier too.
SanJoseScott
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Hey Grover, what powder would you recommend for .308 and .223? My Lock-n-load AP press with shell plates and dies arrives on the 28th. Looking to get started....
MichiganScott
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Not Grover, but the mid-rate powders can be used in both. Try CFE223, H335, BL-C(2), Varget, H4895.
H335 is reputed to be dirty, but I buy it by the 8lb. keg because it meters like water. CFE223 will probably replace it because it's cleaner burning, stops copper fouling from building up, and usually gives a higher velocity.
The 4895's and Varget work better with the heaviest .223 bullets. The 4895's are hard to beat in .308 for general use, but don't give the highest velocity. They are a PIA to use in .223, but give great accuracy.
I would recommend that you buy several reloading manuals first. Check out the bullet weights and you will find powders listed there. Nosler even lists the best powder. I currently have 3 books. They are Nosler, Hornady, and sierra. I would advise you to buy all three. Once you start reloading for the 223, you will want to do it for any caliber you own. My advice would be to also buy the dies for each caliber of gun that you own ASAP. It seems the price just keeps going up every time I look. Glad I bought all of mine in the beginning. BTW-I am not grover but I am pretty sure he would say something along these same lines. Check out the reloading section in this forum as well. Look at the cybersport thread on here too. Sorry for the long post but it was all info you need to know.
SanJoseScott
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Thanks Grover-not and not-Grover...
This board is so cool and so unlike others. Others would have told me to go to the reloading forum. Here I get the answers and the offer of the other forum. This is so cool.
I know about the reloading forum and will ask questions there too. I bought a Lock-n-load with .357, .223, and .308 plates/dies. I got the Hornday reloading manual and I will get the other two that Don5 pointed out.
Originally I wanted to reload my .308 because I'm getting into long range marksmanship. Then the prices went way up on everything else and I figured even with the higher prices I'm still somewhere around 50% lower than retain after I get set up. So for a $1200 investment (approx) I cut the price of my weekend outings by 50%. So once this thing gets up and running I will have to double my outings to hasten the payback point. Now how is that for some twisted logic!
This board is so cool and so unlike others. Others would have told me to go to the reloading forum. Here I get the answers and the offer of the other forum. This is so cool.
I know about the reloading forum and will ask questions there too. I bought a Lock-n-load with .357, .223, and .308 plates/dies. I got the Hornday reloading manual and I will get the other two that Don5 pointed out.
Originally I wanted to reload my .308 because I'm getting into long range marksmanship. Then the prices went way up on everything else and I figured even with the higher prices I'm still somewhere around 50% lower than retain after I get set up. So for a $1200 investment (approx) I cut the price of my weekend outings by 50%. So once this thing gets up and running I will have to double my outings to hasten the payback point. Now how is that for some twisted logic!
MichiganScott
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That is handloader logic and makes sense to anyone that has ever pulled the handle on a press.
LOL...that is pretty good Bill..
SJScott. I started out loading my centerfire rifle cartridges (308) before I purchased my 5.56. Then I was using IMR 4064 and IMR 4895. I started loading my .223's with IMR 4895. But I switched to CFE223 when it came out. I really like it in both 308 and 223. I also recommend Nosler bullets. I have a lot of Hornady and I use them and recommend them but I have had some great results with Nosler bullets also. My favorite right now is a Nosler Ballistic tip 125gr Spitzer Boat tail 308 over CFE223. It is a sizzler and shoots like a laser.
Plus it helps that my .308 Winchester has a 5R twist barrel!!! Just gotta love them Thompson's!
SJScott. I started out loading my centerfire rifle cartridges (308) before I purchased my 5.56. Then I was using IMR 4064 and IMR 4895. I started loading my .223's with IMR 4895. But I switched to CFE223 when it came out. I really like it in both 308 and 223. I also recommend Nosler bullets. I have a lot of Hornady and I use them and recommend them but I have had some great results with Nosler bullets also. My favorite right now is a Nosler Ballistic tip 125gr Spitzer Boat tail 308 over CFE223. It is a sizzler and shoots like a laser.
Plus it helps that my .308 Winchester has a 5R twist barrel!!! Just gotta love them Thompson's!
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SanJoseScott
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I just picked up 1000 55gr FMJ BT Horadys off gunbroker for $.26 each. Then I got 200 Sierra Match King 168gr from Midway at $.41 each. Primers CCI 1000 for the .223 and 1000 for the .308 at $.10 and $.9 each respectively. Yes, I paid too much but given the situation and the desire to get started it still keeps my reloading cost at the $.50/round that I'm seeking (not including brass which I have).
Now I'm computing the cost per round versus retail with the cost of investment to find out how many rounds I have to shoot for the investment to pay off.
Now I'm computing the cost per round versus retail with the cost of investment to find out how many rounds I have to shoot for the investment to pay off.
Maddmax
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Yes, I paid too much but given the situation and the desire to get started it still keeps my reloading cost at the $.50/round that I'm seeking (not including brass which I have).
The way things are,if you snooze you loose. Got to grab what's "reasonable" and just go for it.
I'm glad I have all my antique reloading tools and gear.
arizona98tj
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Just for comparison.....two months before Obama started his first term, a small Mom and Pop store (they sold guns among other things) several miles from my house started to go out of business. A death in the family, etc....anyway, they were closing up shop. They weren't having a "fire sale" kind of thing, but were pricing to clear some of the inventory out. I bought powder in various sized containers, averaging $13.50 to $16 a pound. The best deal was the primers. I paid $50 a case. A case held 5 bricks, a brick being 1K primers. I bought as much as I could afford.
