What are the odds of confiscation?

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Hi all,

I have been reading a lot about potential upcoming AWB, much more strict than the 1994 ban.

What is everyone's opinion on the possibility of the government confiscating our Ar-15s?

I pick mine up on Saturday and If they have more in stock I am thinking on buying 2 but I would hate to spend all that money only to have them taken away in the near future.

Thanks,
 
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It wouldn't happen outright. I would argue it will bea gradualist approach beginning with restrictions. Then later the government will promote a National Registration. Once that happens the federal government would have a complete accounting of all firearms. There would be a period in which the government lay idle. Then, God Forbid, a national tragedy.

Then confiscation. Just like Germany.
 
Nothing is ever impossible. What you believe to be inalienable rights are only so if the majority of society believes it to be so. Want an example?

Teetotalers convinced the majority of the country that alcohol was Satan, and pushed through the 18th Amendment prohibiting the sale, manufacture, possession, and consumption of alcoholic beverages illegal across the land. People who like to imbibe alcohol convinced the majority of the country that alcohol wasn't bad, and pushed through the 21st Amendment. For 13 years, the 18th amendment was in effect.

Don't get complacent thinking that a gun confiscation can't happen here. While the probability is low, it's still there. I'm sure the firearms enthusiasts in Australia thought thought there was no way there could be a gun confiscation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyS3CEIbpJo


For the firearm control advocates to "fix" the 2nd amendment, they'll have to "fix" the 1st amendment too. Keep an eye on things. Be vigilant. Write your local, state, and federal representatives.

If you're not a paid member of your state's firearms association and the NRA, time to join. I don't agree with everything the NRA does. I joined because they're one of the most well funded organizations that oppose the firearms control advocates. I also joined the Second Amendment Foundation.
 
JaPes said:
Nothing is ever impossible. What you believe to be inalienable rights are only so if the majority of society believes it to be so. Want an example?

Teetotalers convinced the majority of the country that alcohol was Satan, and pushed through the 18th Amendment prohibiting the sale, manufacture, possession, and consumption of alcoholic beverages illegal across the land. People who like to imbibe alcohol convinced the majority of the country that alcohol wasn't bad, and pushed through the 21st Amendment. For 13 years, the 18th amendment was in effect.

Don't get complacent thinking that a gun confiscation can't happen here. While the probability is low, it's still there. I'm sure the firearms enthusiasts in Australia thought thought there was no way there could be a gun confiscation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyS3CEIbpJo


For the firearm control advocates to "fix" the 2nd amendment, they'll have to "fix" the 1st amendment too. Keep an eye on things. Be vigilant. Write your local, state, and federal representatives.

If you're not a paid member of your state's firearms association and the NRA, time to join. I don't agree with everything the NRA does. I joined because they're one of the most well funded organizations that oppose the firearms control advocates. I also joined the Second Amendment Foundation.
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Don't forget the 18 amendment brought us a huge increase in organized crime.

Banning/confiscating of our firearms could possibly lead to a huge increase in black market arms trades, crime would likely go up. Don't know if that would sway the public back in favor of private ownership or not. But lets not forget the Supreme Court ruling on 2A being an individual right, something that hadn't been addressed or perhaps not even case law back during the first ban. Don't know how it will help in regard to specific types of firearms, but it was a huge win for us.

Just joined the NRA. I heard they were getting something like 8000 new members/day since the tragedy.
 
mere possession of magazines more than 10 rounds = felony.
ar15 and ak and sks and etc., can not be sold, traded, inherited = felony.

no need to come house to house,
they will be off the street, even for gangs - mission accomplished !
most identified then taken away, in normal law enforcement stops.

ONE non normal kid caused this to impact > 30kk legitimate citizens.

we, us, the authorities, the media, are crazy for complacence.

existance has always been tough,
but a tough existance streghtens us laggards, i.e. makes patriots.
 
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I imagine "one of the first things?" is banning all 30rd mags. Suppose you already have them. Turn them in?

Can't see them confiscating the guns you already own. Probably going to be like the previous law with things "tweeked" to keep everyone happy.
 
parsonbw said:
They can't confiscate what they can't find.;);)
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but it is off the street and hidden,
that is mission accomplished - for most.
this is what most LE want.
politicans want removal - so politicans can have no impediments to their being rulers.
even Boner caved - dispicable(sp).
 
I don't think they'd make owning a 30-round magazine a felony. There's FAR too many people who own them and the backlash would be more than they're probably willing to risk. After all, these are elected officials (senators and congress).

There's a lot of middle ground that can be covered without needing to make us all potential felons.
 
Well Stated.....

6mmman said:
The odds of confiscation are only as great as your willingness to let it happen!!!!!:)
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Amen.

At this point the opposition has their Perfect Storm of Opportunity, and their best chance since 1994 to do so.

We cannot allow ourselves to "settle" if it "only means our guns are Grandfathered".

We need to rise up as one to meet the opposition and prevent them from turning the horrible tragedy in Newtown into the catastrophe of emasculating the 2nd Amendment.

It cannot be overstated... Have you joined / renewed with the NRA yet? How many new recruits have you brought in? Me? I've brought in nine in less than a week. We need to swell the ranks to 10 MILLION members before congress reconvenes in on 2 January.

"Each One, Teach One"...

Drew
 
Who knows for sure?

Remember the "Street Sweeper?" It was just a shotgun until it magically became a class 3 weapon. A little grace time was given to voluntarily turn them in or register them with the $200 tax. Now guess what happens if you are caught with one? It might as well be a machine gun, prison time will be in your future.

We need to join the NRA, speak out for gun rights even though the gun control nuts are shouting, and redirect the issue to a "hardening" of soft targets such as schools.

Schools need to partner with local law enforcement to intitiate a school marshall type program where a selected few trusted individuals who are principals or teachers are screened and selected to participate in Use of Force training with the local LE agencies. These trained folks (2 or 3) per school would supplement School Resource Officers and also serve as a line of defense for the school. This makes sense, coaches and the like are already dedicated outside their regular school duties, and best of all, its an economical answer to secure our children!

bwade
 
I've never read such paranoia. Yes, an AWB is probably more than likely. They would have several Constitutional hurdles to circumvent regarding any type of confiscation. Namely ex post facto law, which is strictly forbidden in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution. In addition, the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 14th amendments also address warrantless searches and seizures and of course, due process.

Now, they can make it where we can't buy, sell, gift, inherit said items; however, banning what is already owned is a constitutional no-no. It is hard to speculate what an unseen AWB legislation will contain until it is published for first reading and assigned to the appropriate committee.

Until then, get a grip - call your congressman and instead of panic buying, give to the NRA, GOA, and your local gun lobby. It's time to circle the wagons and dig in. It's going to be a fight.
 
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