What Happened To?????

In the hunt for ammo on the auction sites, you must check them every day. Bid low, if you don't win you have lost nothing. Just keep it up. Bid bid bid.You will win some, over time your ammo stockpile will increrase. This is how I have acquired over 2500 rounds of the hard to find .41 long Colt in the last three to four years. I have been outbid more times then I have won auctions, but my stockpile continues to grow, same with .44 special, be persistent in your hunt.
 
I haven't had a chance to check this thread I started for a while. I like the comments. Don't get me wrong I believe strongly in being prepared. And don't think that I haven't stocked up over the years (at a slow pace). I was angry over the fact that people would come into a store and wipe the shelves clean for no reason other than a panic or to make sure they got theirs for resale. I watched as people came into a store and said "I want from here to here" (shelves) buying calibers they don't even own. I am just happy it finally calmed down for a while..
 
I find these threads amusing. As much fun as a year and a half ago when the same folks were crying about the sudden shortages. What seems to filter out is the shooting fraternity sifts out into two distinct groups. The young'ens who complain and cry like mad because they've always know a land of plenty, and the old coots who've been doing this for a while.

I grew up reading Skeeter Skelton, and I heard story after story from my older relatives about how tough it was during the depression. The theme was the same, no ammo and no money to buy any if you could find some. They beat into my thick skull the idea of waste not, want not. Ammo was a particularly sore issue.

When I started to shoot, a box of 22s was an unimaginable treasure. Then when my teen buddies would go out shooting, they'd waste a brick apiece. I was in disgust, but enjoyed watching them miss what they were shooting at. I refrain from saying aiming because very little of that was ever done. They were burning powder and throwing lead down range (and it wasn't a range, we couldn't afford such luxuries.)

And my views were warped more by my uncle. My dad couldn't stand him but I thought the was cool. He just wasn't stingy. He also didn't go away during WWII. Instead he beat the draft, worked 14 hours a day for most of the 4 years the war lasted, and did some really cool things for the War Department. Like worked on the M1 Carbine development they named the M2. He did make good money, probably why my dad didn't like him.

But he had all kinds of little stockpiles of ammo, mostly 22s, but some 45-70s and even some shotgun shells. He was generous to a fault with me. He had daughters, worthless things for a man who liked guns. So whenever we'd go visit my Grandmother, who live with the uncle, he'd bestow gifts on me. Great presents for a gun loving teen.

And my poor little mind was warped beyond all hope. It was ingrained into me that ammo was to be save and cherished, not wasted. Wealth wasn't measured in $, but in rounds hidden away. And I had this burning desire to become wealthy when it came to ammo.

Its why I laugh at you folks who thought the way to live your lives was to stop at WallyWorld on your way to the range for a box of ammo. Or worse, buy it from the attached gun store. Just like it never crossed your minds that ammo might become over priced or unavailable, it never crossed my mind to own less that a few years supply. The ammo we bought up at WallyWorld and the gun shows was really pretty cheap compared to today's prices. My only forecast is for inflation in the near term. Probably a new stability of maybe twice the prices of 2 years ago, but maybe more.

I buy at firesale prices. Whenever I find things available. I don't apologize to anyone for my buying. I have a little cash in my wallet. I pay my bills with room to spare, and I buy ammo when I see it. Believe it or not, there are folks who think ammo goes bad after a year or two. So when some relative croaks, they dump his ammo for the prices on the sticker, or less because they consider it distressed goods.

For those of you who have met Charlie Sherrill, you know he's easily amused. At several of the gun shows a few years ago he came into our tables to cool his heals. In reality, he understands very well why we buy a table. Its a place to call home, sit around, BS (and he's good at that, too.) But he was both amused and irritated that whenever one of my bird dogs (unpaid scouts) would return with a hot tip, I was up and gone for the time it took to cheat the other guy out of his ammo.

At the one show in particular, I managed to score about 15 boxes of 44 special self defense ammo at $9 a box. He was laughing at me. I was proud. Then there were the boxes of 22s someone felt was out of code.
I just buy them and into storage they go. Soon I'll start the end game (the one where I shoot till I die.)

I still have 550 bulk packs with the $13.47 price sticker. You guys like the OP here think thats cheap. I think it was expensive but a needed thing to do. I've also got Remington premium Golden Bullet hollow points with $5 a brick pricing. And all those stupid CCI Mini Mag plastic boxes of 100. Those were about a $1 a piece.

We play 2 totally different games. Ammo is an end in itself. Don't waste a shot, you won't get it back.
 
well pardon me for buying way too much ammo shortly after Obama was elected and sworn into office!!! I still have a bunch of mastercast remanufactured ammo from late 2008 that I am just making a dent in now...guess sending in my own brass to his company caused a major shortage also?!? there are advantages to buying bulk when I am able & among them is a lower price since I bought them earlier and I'm still shooting them which saves me some $$$ in the long run...as a first time homeowner those savings allow me to put more money toward my mortgage payment; later
 
Wow I thought this thread died out and lo and behold it popped up again. So exactly what did Obama have to do with the ammo shortage. Nothing but getting elected... You (in general) did it to the rest of us with rumours and straight out panic. That made me sick to my stomach. I don't care how much you buy but don't scream the sky is falling and then when it doesn't don't have the gumption to admit you were wrong. I never said I don't buy ammo and don't stock ammo. I got plenty and I buy in bulk also when I need to. The faces of the masses that were hitting the stores said it all.
 
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I still cant purchase primers in bulk at will. I believe a prudent shooter/reloader keeps a healthy supply of powder and primers on hand at all times. Prior to last election, I saw a repeat of the Clinton era coming so I stocked up. While others were whining about not being able to find cheap ammo at Walmart, I just loaded what I needed. When my sons came to visit they always left with a few hundred rounds.
 
Things are getting a bit easier in terms of primers and some expensively priced ammo[saw a box of 50 41 mag JSP's at Gander last week for ONLY $80!] but depending on caliber, the jacketed bullets are still in very short supply - IMO.
 
I didn't buy hardly any ammo over the past year or so, as I had plenty on hand. Since it's become pretty well available again, I buy when I see a good price. I've got some ammo dating back to the 80's, but I drag it out every so often to make sure it's reliable. Have never found any that wasn't. I recently had an opportunity to buy a few bricks of small pistol primers that are probably 20 years old, but I know where they came from and the old fellow quite reloading. Got them for a really good price. My philosophy is when any supply of ammo gets below an arbitrary level (I set depending on the cartridge, with .22's the highest usage), I buy whenever I see a decent price. Most centerfire I reload. I figure at my current level of shooting, I can go 3 to 4 years without buying anything, but then I will have to have a really long reloading session.
 
Wow I thought this thread died out and lo and behold it popped up again. So exactly what did Obama have to do with the ammo shortage. Nothing but getting elected... You (in general) did it to the rest of us with rumours and straight out panic. That made me sick to my stomach. I don't care how much you buy but don't scream the sky is falling and then when it doesn't don't have the gumption to admit you were wrong. I never said I don't buy ammo and don't stock ammo. I got plenty and I buy in bulk also when I need to. The faces of the masses that were hitting the stores said it all.

You are wrong.

Obama did plenty other than getting elected. Do you remember the statement on his Urban Policy Agenda from his Change.gov website? If not, then I will remind you:

Address Gun Violence in Cities: Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.
Urban Policy | Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition Team

Those were not rumors. They were/are hard, cold facts. His Attorney General called for renewal of the AWB, and Congressional Democrats cringed.

There is no reason for me to believe he has changed his agenda. Those goals just are not politically expedient at this time, and his Obamacare and Crap and Tax legislation was/is apparently more important at this time. If the Democrats don't take too bad a whipping in 2010, look for some gun control proposals next year. More likely, if Obama wins a second term, those proposals will come then. The only reason these and even more onerous proposals haven't come about so far in his administration is that it would be very hard to get them through a Congress that remembers what the wrath of the NRA wrought after the Clinton AWB was pushed through in 1994 over the objections of Democrats who knew it would cost them their jobs.

I personally bought very little ammo during the so-called panic, because I have been hoarding since 1994. If I had not had a lot on hand, including primers and powder, I certainly would have taken part in the panic. Any prudent individual who did not already have sufficient stores would. Currently, I am buying .45 ACP because I don't load for that caliber, and .22 long rifle because I don't quite have the 20,000 rounds that I consider sufficient.
 
Well, rburg said it the long way, but he said it right. There was an "ammo shortage" back in the 90's, but there hasn't been one since, at least not at my house. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

I see that redlevel figured that one out, too.
 
i was in the reloading supply biz back during the previous shortage. saw the very same things happening prior to the election of barry o. anyone who couldn't see the forest for the trees was just s.o.l. i vowed to never run out of supplies after that ordeal. when things got back to normal i bought at least a 10yr supply of the calibers i reload, which is all the common and many of the uncommon. the unfortunate thing this time is, thing may not get back to normal. primers are still a problem if you want more that a couple of thousand at a time and some calibers of jacketed bullets are very hard to find yet today. btw, i love hearing the whiners complain about prices. why didn't you buy when things were cheap?
 
Well, rburg said it the long way, but he said it right. There was an "ammo shortage" back in the 90's, but there hasn't been one since, at least not at my house. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

I see that redlevel figured that one out, too.

i was in the reloading supply biz back during the previous shortage. saw the very same things happening prior to the election of barry o. anyone who couldn't see the forest for the trees was just s.o.l. i vowed to never run out of supplies after that ordeal. when things got back to normal i bought at least a 10yr supply of the calibers i reload, which is all the common and many of the uncommon. the unfortunate thing this time is, thing may not get back to normal. primers are still a problem if you want more that a couple of thousand at a time and some calibers of jacketed bullets are very hard to find yet today. btw, i love hearing the whiners complain about prices. why didn't you buy when things were cheap?

Yep, I learned my lesson with the "Clinton Scare." As I stated in my earlier post, even though all the bad predictions didn't come true, I still accumulated a bunch of ammo and saved a good bit of money in the long run, simply because of inflation and price increases.

The discouraging thing now is that a "lifetime supply" for me ain't nearly as much as it was back in '94.:(
 
I tend to remember 1994 and how a bunch of folks said, "Don't Worry, Nothings Going to Pass".
I trust the Perfumed Politicians on the Potomac as much
as I did the NVA and VC fourty years ago. In fact, I have
far more respect for the NVA and VC that I do the Politicians
in the District of Criminals.

Rule 303
 

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