What Have I Done to My Glock?

[Redcoat3340]

So after shooting since the early 1960s I got my first Glock!
Holy Milestone, a used 3rd Gen model 19.
It seemed OK. My fingers didn't fall off, paralysis didn't freeze my hand, and so far, pre-range test, it's basically just another plastic gun.

But I decided I'd soup it up.

Nothing drastic, just a bunch of low-intensity upgrades: extended takedown levers, new firing pin safety, new stainles recoil assembly, lighter striker spring, 6 lb. trigger spring, 3.5 lb connector, some new dry fire "bullets" (my old ones were wearing out). Also a very thorough cleaning and most of a 50 gal barrel of slide glide and gun oil.

And I seem to have taken it from a gun with a 5 - 6 lb. trigger I'd consider carrying (my regular carry guns are a 6906, Px4 compact, 638 J, 4513, and compact SW99 in .40) to something registering (on my brand new electronic trigger guage) 2.1 "I-won't-be-carrying-that" pounds.

It was a very modest investment for a whole lot of trigger weight reduction. And rather than having something one might find with me out of the house, I've got a new range gun.

I suspect this will be my one and only Glock. I'm still hunting for an affordable-to-me 4013TSW to add to the carry guns in the safe.

I doubt I'll be retiring my S&W cap for one reading "Glock Perfection," but at least I now I can say I've got me one.

 

[raljr1]

I respect your Glock resistance. I had not fired a Glock until about a year ago, and then only because my associate from Spain had never fired a handgun, and the shop I took him to rented Glocks. I shot a couple of magazines full. A perfectly acceptable tool. End of my Glock association. I am happy with steel and wood.

Don't know what you did to get a 2 pound trigger, but you are wise to leave that as a range toy. I would not wish to learn that you shot yourself in the foot while holstering said arm.

 

[MP-5]

“But I decided I'd soup it up.”

 

[stansdds]

A 2 pound trigger on a striker fired pistol? No thanks. As to owning a Glock, I still don't, but am tempted as I see Glocks everywhere.

 

[chief38]

IMHO a 5-6 pound trigger is about perfect for a striker fired EDC CCW. Anything lighter than that is asking for trouble. Most Glocks, Sigs and other semi auto pistols designed for CCW are also in that range. I'd even be OK with 6.5 pounds as long as it was a smooth, creep free trigger pull on a carry gun. NYC had gone to 12.5 pound Glocks not because they were inherently unsafe at the regular trigger pull weights, but their firearms & shooting training and recruits were IMO substandard making it all but impossible for many to qualify with such a heavy trigger. The purpose of making the triggers so heavy was so that incompetent Cops would be less likely to shoot themselves. They should have put the time, effort and money into better training instead!! I used to live within 50 miles of NYC and did go in on occasion - believe me some of the newly hired Cops were not fit to be sanitation workers (mentally or physically). I have met a few who spoke such poor English I could not understand them - not kidding! That is completely unsafe, stupid and dangerous to honest law abiding citizens who try to communicate with LEO's !! Just imagine that situation under stress.

For designated target shooting and competition pistols, down to 2 - 2.5 pounds is fine as they are only meant for precision shooting at paper targets.

 

[LVSteve]

IMHO a 5-6 pound trigger is about perfect for a striker fired EDC CCW. Anything lighter than that is asking for trouble. Most Glocks, Sigs and other semi auto pistols designed for CCW are also in that range. I'd even be OK with 6.5 pounds as long as it was a smooth, creep free trigger pull on a carry gun.

In before all those who claim you cannot shoot accurately with anything heavier than a 3.5 lb trigger.

 

[Faulkner]

But I decided I'd soup it up.

As a LEO instructor I tell my students if you want to tinker with your handgun get a 1911. Leave Glocks and M&P's alone, they're fine the way they are.

 

[robertrwalsh]

I own three Glocks. I had a butt job done on the Model 20 so it would fit my hand well. I tried different triggers and spring arrangements, but went back to the factory setup. I did put on better sights. I also put on the newer slide stop / slide release. As noted above they run very reliably and just fine from the box.

 

[rwsmith]

I like about any gun, but there are several things about Glocks I don't like. I don't like their safety setup but the main thing is that the grip doesn't suit my hands.

 

[alwslate]

If you buy an older used Glock and want it "upgraded", send it to Glock and they will do it for free and replace your old magazines with new ones.

 

[Daddyojoe1]

I put my 19 and my 22 in the very back of my safe then promptly forgot about them. Been happy ever since.

 

[swagmeister]

I've owned several Glocks over the years (don't own one at the present time) and even carried a Model 19 as an issue weapon for a pretty long stretch of time. I lost count after 19,000 rounds thru it with zero problems. Every person's weapon is his own and can do whatever he/she desires to it and I am in no way questioning your motives, but I believe that 2.1 pounds is dangerously too low for a Glock, or really any semi-auto pistol, even for a range toy!! Be safe with it.

 

[Neumann]

I came close to parting from the True Path, when shopping for a 10mm. To save money, I wanted a Glock 20, Gen 5, suitable for a red-dot sight. Fortunately it was not in stock with no predictable availability. They did have an M&P, Mod 2, with thumb safety and attached red dot. The Devil loses again.

 

[sparkyvega]

More than once, I've come close to getting a Gluck 10mm. I shot the G20, and it was good, but the SA XDM-10mm cured me of that.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

I think the Glock is a great gun. BUT it just doesn't fit my hand. So I bought a full size M&P which fits my hand perfectly. Love that gun-basic 9mm platform like the M&P revolver was for the .38. Everything you need and nothing you don't. Oh and the M&P is one of the first and in spite of the 2.0 models, I feel no need to get rid of my 1.0 original-it works. And I paid a little less than $300 for it.

 

[armorer951]

I am continuously mystified by the relentless pursuit of lower and lower trigger pull rates. Very dangerous indeed.



Carter

 

[Dave Haynes]

When Glocks first came out, my brother sat next to a Glock Rep at a gun show in WA. The Glock guy kept bending his ear about how wonderful and trouble free Glocks were. My brother finally posed the question: "If Glocks are so good why are all these people bringing you their guns to fix?" I will say that I was next to a Glock shooter at the range one day, a guy who knew what he was doing, and that thing was as accurate as any pistol I've ever seen. He was absolutely deadly with it...

 

[Faulkner]

I like about any gun, but there are several things about Glocks I don't like. I don't like their safety setup but the main thing is that the grip doesn't suit my hands.

I feel the same way about 1911's, they're grip angle is all wrong, but I've been able to master it none the less with a lot of practice.

 

[Doug M.]

The closer you remain to stock, the better off you will be.

 

[Lt.Donn]

IMHO a 5-6 pound trigger is about perfect for a striker fired EDC CCW. Anything lighter than that is asking for trouble. Most Glocks, Sigs and other semi auto pistols designed for CCW are also in that range. I'd even be OK with 6.5 pounds as long as it was a smooth, creep free trigger pull on a carry gun. NYC had gone to 12.5 pound Glocks not because they were inherently unsafe at the regular trigger pull weights, but their firearms & shooting training and recruits were IMO substandard making it all but impossible for many to qualify with such a heavy trigger. The purpose of making the triggers so heavy was so that incompetent Cops would be less likely to shoot themselves. They should have put the time, effort and money into better training instead!! I used to live within 50 miles of NYC and did go in on occasion - believe me some of the newly hired Cops were not fit to be sanitation workers (mentally or physically). I have met a few who spoke such poor English I could not understand them - not kidding! That is completely unsafe, stupid and dangerous to honest law abiding citizens who try to communicate with LEO's !! Just imagine that situation under stress.

For designated target shooting and competition pistols, down to 2 - 2.5 pounds is fine as they are only meant for precision shooting at paper targets.

Agreed...and to add; folks who EDC overthink trigger weight waay too much in my opinion. In a true "deadly force" encounter, you will be able to press a trigger of Any weight...I guarantee...5-6 lbs or even more on a striker fired platform makes it safer to carry...at likely SD distances the functional difference between a crisp 3lb 1911 platform and a mushy 6lb Glock trigger really won't matter...but I know some commandos who have not been in a close quarter struggle may flame me.