What is this model S & W?

[puppetboy]

I saw a revolver back in the 80's that looked like a 586 with full underlug, was chambered for .38 special only, and was a K frame. Can someone please give me some info about this revolver, thanks.


Duke.

 

[ken158]

Pure speculation at this point without more details... rings no bells here - fixed or adjustable sights?

 

[Kernel Crittenden]

There was a small run of M586's made in .38 Special only. It was either the -3 or -4, I can't remember which.

 

[murphydog]

You are likely describing a later model 14 (-5 to -7). There are a few good posts here about the development of the gun from a factory insider. Hope this is helpful.

 

[puppetboy]

This revolver did have adjustable sights and a 6'' barrel. The model 14- 5 or -7 sounds like it could be the revolver I am wanting.. thank you.

 

[Iowahunter]

Here is a pic of my 14-6

 

[Pizza Bob]

There was a small run of M586's made in .38 Special only. It was either the -3 or -4, I can't remember which.

You're thinking of the Brazil Contract guns. There were two contracts, one in 1993 of 586-5 guns (serial prefix BPY) and one in 1997 of 586-4 guns (serial prefix CCE).That's not a typo, the -5's were made four years before the -4's. Just another S&W anomaly.

Adios,

Pizza Bob

 

[Texas Star]

I think there was a .22 Combat Masterpiece, presumably some M-18 variant, with a four-inch bbl. and a full lug.

I have a Cobra Gunskin holster that seems to have been molded for such a gun. Could theoretically be for M-586/686, but it fits a M-66 just right and doesn't seem loose.
Of course, my M-66 doesn't have a full lug.

I don't at present have a M-686, but think I tried it in the holster when I did have one, and it stretched the leather. So it's prob. for a K-frame, which fits right.

The holster is a very nice one, in great shape. I think I found it at a gun show. Only one that I've seen molded for a full-lugged K-frame. I doubt they'd mold a holster for a gun that didn't exist.

 

[Green Frog]

IIRC, there was a perceived market for a factory K-38 with heavy barrel for use in PPC and other revolver competitions. Supposedly S&W started production on them by reboring unused Model 16-4 barrels (a sacrilege if it occurred! ) and filled the initial order. I would assume they started with fresh barrel forgings to continue production. This was never a very common gun, but it was a factory produced model variant. Some of the real experts will be able to add more to this narrative, I'm sure.

Froggie

 

[murphydog]

I think there was a .22 Combat Masterpiece, presumably some M-18 variant, with a four-inch bbl. and a full lug.

No mystery here, there were full lug model 17s (-6 and 7) in 4, 6 and 8 3/8" barrels, made at the same time as the 617s of the same lengths.

 

[Boogsawaste]

Since the 38 special 586's were mentioned, figured I post a pic of my dads 38 special 686. You know, as an excuse to post a picture.

 

[murphydog]

Here is the link to the model 14 development post:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-re...gins-model-14-full-lug-introduction-swca.html

 

[banjopkr]

I have one of the full lug 14s and have shot it a lot it was a range gun at a local indoor range and was filthy when i got it after a long cleaning session took it to the range and it wouldnt group so cleaned again still wouldnt group so quit cleaning it boy will it shoot now pretty,ragged groups at 25yds it just needs a dirty bore,these are some of the finest shooters Smith ever made really enjoyed article on them