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Someone is selling this and I am trying to determine model and value? Serial is 283xxx. Thoughts?
 

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Owner thinks it’s a pre 10 but I’m not sure. Recently bought one that ended up being a pre-victory and not worth much so I am trying to determine what this is
 
It is not a "pre-10." But it is in the direct lineage of the Model 10. It is a .38 Military & Police model from approximately 1918, maybe 1919. It has the round butt and a 4" barrel. All that assumes it is chambered for the .38 Special.
 
It is not a "pre-10." But it is in the direct lineage of the Model 10. It is a .38 Military & Police model from approximately 1918, maybe 1919. It has the round butt and a 4" barrel. All that assumes it is chambered for the .38 Special.

Thank you Jack, always appreciate your input! Any thoughts on fair value?
 
Any thoughts on fair value?

That's a bit tough with the rather dark pictures. But I suspect I would pay at least $400 to $450 for it if I were interested in one of that vintage. The round butt walnut stocks with the recessed gold medallion are almost certainly original to the gun and make it a more interesting acquisition.
 
That's a bit tough with the rather dark pictures. But I suspect I would pay at least $400 to $450 for it if I were interested in one of that vintage. The round butt walnut stocks with the recessed gold medallion are almost certainly original to the gun and make it a more interesting acquisition.

He sent me another pick - barrel says “S&W 38 Special CTG”
 
I rather suspect it is 38 S&W Special CTG. :)

It should not have Made in U.S.A. on the right side of the frame and likely lacks the monogram on the frame. The former didn't appear until 1922, and the latter was absent from WWI until c. 1920.
 
That's a bit tough with the rather dark pictures. But I suspect I would pay at least $400 to $450 for it if I were interested in one of that vintage. The round butt walnut stocks with the recessed gold medallion are almost certainly original to the gun and make it a more interesting acquisition.

Here are more pics he sent. Let me know if this helps with determining more info or value. Thank you!
 

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Based on the condition I see, I think Jack is being a bit generous with value.
I agree now that I see the level of finish loss.

OTOH, the round butt walnut, gold medallion stocks are uncommon. I might go into his value range just to get them.
I also agree with this. The Circassian walnut stocks are in nice shape and are worth a bit all on their own.
 
I agree now that I see the level of finish loss.


I also agree with this. The Circassian walnut stocks are in nice shape and are worth a bit all on their own.

So thoughts on value of full package? Still think 400-450? Thanks!
 
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