What purpose do lanyard loops serve?
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And yourself to the horse, I believe, if you follow the appropriate OSHA riding-in-bear-country protocols.
As a beginning canoeist (if there is such a word) out on a lake in Minnesota, I wish I had known about them.
Thankfully, I was a young fellow then, and an expert and powerful swimmer. The pistol survived the incident - but one of my shoes did not. Though I am sure I was in much more danger than I realized, all I had on my mind was getting pistol - and canoe - safely to shore.
I have a friend who makes a trip to Alaska now and then, where bears (big ones) are known to be "curious" about tents. He is adamant that his revolver has a lanyard.
Gearhead Jim
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Good history, thanks.You know when you have to do you business in a public restroom and there is no flat surface to lay your gun on?
This used to be a major problem at the S&W factory, where to put the gun? In your pulled down clothing? On the floor? Leave it in the holster and let it pull over and touch the floor? Not to mention being visible to all those people looking under the stall to see if it is occupied!
Well almost all of the stalls have a coat hook, and that was noticed by J. Harold, one of the esteemed gun designers at the factory. As he was just looking through the SCS&W for inspiration on how to make the old new again, and had just gotten to the picture of the .45 Hand Ejector U. S. Army - Model 1917 he had a flash of brilliance.
Coat hook, lanyard loop, what a perfect match.
Although not pushed as a selling point for lanyard loop equipped guns it has since become a welcome relief for those owners as they no longer have the dilemma of where to put their gun as they do their daily business.
And now you know.
bob
In real life, it doesn't work out so well. You could fill a truck with all the guns left behind in washrooms by off duty cops.
My technique, which has served me well for 30 years, is to wear a belt holster that either has a thumb break, or is tight enough to hold the gun if turned upside down. Preferably, both. In fact, those are the requirements of my department. When taking a dump, I keep my trousers up around my knees and casually lay my arm over the gun. That covers it pretty well and I don't need to worry about leaving it behind or not being able to reach it if someone tries a "smash and grab" with the stall door.
It's a funny subject until you leave your gun behind, I'm told.
US Military Police used to use lanyards all the time, as did the horse cavalry. Interestingly enough the MPs lanyards were attached to a loop on the butt of the 45, the cav guys had lanyards that attached to a loop on the bottom of the magazine. I guess you could lose the gun but keep the mag!
If you remember all the 1917 45 ACP military revolvers had lanyard loops for the same reason, the MPs and the Cavalry. I do not recall any other US troops using the lanyards-anyone else??????
I do know that the British NCOs and Officers who were issued sidearms used lanyards with dress and battle dress uniforms. That usage by the Brits goes way back to at least the 19th century when revolvers were first issued.
If you remember all the 1917 45 ACP military revolvers had lanyard loops for the same reason, the MPs and the Cavalry. I do not recall any other US troops using the lanyards-anyone else??????
I do know that the British NCOs and Officers who were issued sidearms used lanyards with dress and battle dress uniforms. That usage by the Brits goes way back to at least the 19th century when revolvers were first issued.
4330Inroute
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When I attended the police academy years ago the instructors were down on all Smith and Wesson 9mm's as being unreliable and unsafe. This was in 1979 just a couple years after the Model 59 began wide spread usage in California. At the time some were using the 59 as a spray-o-matic and not concentrating on shot placement. The instructors as a joke presented me with a lanyard with the instructions to use it with my Mdl 59 and in the event it jammed I could turn it into a slungshot and still defend myself. They ate a bit of crow when I out shot their darling boy in the El Presidente shoot.
As a side note I asked my brother was in the Marines about using the lanyard. He said that he used one in Vietnam during two tours. His first tour was as an M60 gunner and his second as what he called an S-2 Scout. He added that in a couple of close quarters situations it proved worth using because he was able to retrieve his .45 and 'put and end to the fight.'
Pretty good recommendation in my book.
As a side note I asked my brother was in the Marines about using the lanyard. He said that he used one in Vietnam during two tours. His first tour was as an M60 gunner and his second as what he called an S-2 Scout. He added that in a couple of close quarters situations it proved worth using because he was able to retrieve his .45 and 'put and end to the fight.'
Pretty good recommendation in my book.
You know when you have to do you business in a public restroom and there is no flat surface to lay your gun on?
This used to be a major problem at the S&W factory, where to put the gun? In your pulled down clothing? On the floor? Leave it in the holster and let it pull over and touch the floor? Not to mention being visible to all those people looking under the stall to see if it is occupied!
Well almost all of the stalls have a coat hook, and that was noticed by J. Harold, one of the esteemed gun designers at the factory. As he was just looking through the SCS&W for inspiration on how to make the old new again, and had just gotten to the picture of the .45 Hand Ejector U. S. Army - Model 1917 he had a flash of brilliance.
Coat hook, lanyard loop, what a perfect match.
Although not pushed as a selling point for lanyard loop equipped guns it has since become a welcome relief for those owners as they no longer have the dilemma of where to put their gun as they do their daily business.
And now you know.
bob
I actually use the coat hooks in a stall when I am forced to use public facilities. No, not with a lanyard; simply hang my gun on the hook via the trigger guard. Very safe/secure. Grip ends are heavier than the barrel ends so they hang inverted and one need not touch the trigger.
Be safe.
Spotteddog
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If your handgun has one, it's mighty convenient to use in the woods to hang your gun around your neck from while your "indisposed" in the Z position?
You know, in that place where Bears also do the same thing in?
You know, in that place where Bears also do the same thing in?
Gearhead Jim
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One guy did that with a cocked & locked 1911.
Unfortunately, the thumb safety got disengaged somehow.
When he went to remove the gun from the hook, his hand naturally depressed the grip safety.
The coat hook, like most, had a slight curve to it; so he lifted the gun slightly as he was taking it off the hook.
Just enough to bump the trigger, BANG!
Recoil jumped the gun back in his hand and he automatically pushed forward, BANG! again.
And then a third time!
All the other cops came running, ready to kill someone; they "knew" that 3 quick shots had to be a gunfight instead of an accident.
Fortunately, no injuries. Well, no VISIBLE injuries.
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