What S&W do I have? WW2? ~pic provided~

[kaiarack]

I picked this one up recently and cant seem to pinpoint the model and age. Heres the specs:

Serial: 7277xx P
- No model # on the frame
- barrel: 38 S&W CTG
- barrel: Smith & Wesson Spreingfield Mass USA, Patented Feb.6.06 Sep.14.09 Dec.29.14

I primarily collect military guns and was told that the lanyard ring means it was Brit issued. But with no military markings, I'm not sure. Any help would be great. Thanks!

 

[kaiarack]

I picked this one up recently and cant seem to pinpoint the model and age. Heres the specs:

Serial: 7277xx P
- No model # on the frame
- barrel: 38 S&W CTG
- barrel: Smith & Wesson Spreingfield Mass USA, Patented Feb.6.06 Sep.14.09 Dec.29.14

I primarily collect military guns and was told that the lanyard ring means it was Brit issued. But with no military markings, I'm not sure. Any help would be great. Thanks!

 

[kaiarack]

I also have the holster. Think it is a correct match for the gun?

 

[kaiarack]

This one is just for fun. got a little carried away with the cleaning...

 

[reddogge]

Beautiful revolver there. It looks like an M&P and was made for the British service. Some call them pre-Victories as they hadn't started to put the V prefix on the serial number yet. I don't know what the P suffix is though. Is there a P anywhere in the left side? Also is there anything stamped or written inside the grip panels?

Great rig though. Hope you get it together.

 

[DRB]

The P is a Proof mark often seen on the pre victory model revolvers. It is not part of the serial number.

 

[Deacon KC]

That is a British WW2 holster made for midframe revolvers. Handled S&W, Enfield, Webley, etc.

 

[kaiarack]

great. thanks for the help.

no P on the left side. One of the grip panels has the serial # stamped on it

 

[kaiarack]

one more request. Can anyone tell me the age? thanks.

 

[digi-shots]

Welcome to the forum!

Nice find! Is there any stamping on the frame topstrap, above the cylinder?

Many of these early British Service Revolvers had US Property or United States Property stampings.

To find out exactly when and where it shipped, you could request a letter from S&W for $30.

Best guess as to shipment would be very, very early 1941 (Jan. or Feb.?)

 

[opoefc]

Your revolver is one of the guns shipped to the British Purchasing Commission approx. Dec 1940, chambered for the .38/200 ( .38 S&W) . Collectors call them "Pre-Victory" models, however they are Model 1905 , 4th change, M&Ps. Most were 5 inch barrels and sme 6 inch., all were blue finish, polished, and had standard walnut checkered grips with a lanyard swivel in the butt. The P is a the inspector's proof mark.

 

[kaiarack]

Nope, no "United States Property" stamp.thanks

 

[PJGP]

You have a 6" model (from the photo) which makes it a mid 1940 British purchase. Most appear to have ended up with the Royal Air Force, possibly because they did not fit the standard army web holster which has designed for the 5" barrel Enfield .38 revolver.

Your holster is not really correct because it is a Royal Armoured Corp Mark II circe 1942, also designed to take the 5" barrel Enfield (or S&W)

Peter

 

[kaiarack]

Thanks Peter.
not all that bad of news, as I have this one that doesnt have a holster. Do you (or does anyone else) have a pic of the correct holster? Ive learned that Ebay descriptions arent always accurate

many thanks,
Ryan

 

[Kamerer]

To me, that is a tremendous find. I am in the process of getting correct grips and a holster for a WWI .455 Hand Ejector Mk. II - the "Victory" model of WWI.

That holster is a great piece to go with that gun - period correct and no way to know when they got mated up - during the war or after. That it still has the cleaning rod is fantastic, and the gun with the correct grips.

Just out of curiosity, and for collectors to know, how did you scrounge this up and about what did you have to pay for it? Not to be nosey, just curious from the collecting angle.