My 638-2 is more my speed.
What Say You Revolver People?
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Are you talking about that aborted effort of a snub nose revolver that Kimber makes (or made)? That's another hideous one.
S&W Model 327. Well, any comments yea or nay? 8 shot revolver, looks strange, I dunno exactly what to think. Would you want one and/or or comments from anyone who has one would be interesting.
Sorry, it's just plain ugly and I wouldn't have one if it was given to me. Reminds me of an Arminius.
I could not find myself beginning to be interested in one. Jus plain ugly!
Ivan the Butcher
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The worst looking Smith, is still better than the best lookin Glock, ANYDAY!
Since when did SD/Carry guns become a beauty contest!
Ivan
Although, the embarrassing the dogs comment is a hoot!
Would be a much nicer and still lightweight gun with a 3.5" barrel.
These days my use for .357 is in a larger gun...longer range targets and/or deer....38+p is all I can handle in a light gun and I'm fine with that.
Sure it's a fine revolver and somewhere out there is someone to love it....just not me
Sure it's a fine revolver and somewhere out there is someone to love it....just not me
Marshal Tom
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Much rather have one of the 627 PC 3" or better yet the 5" model if I wanted to carry something that large.
I like it. If I could afford it, I'd have one.
I got sucked in but am not a big fan of .357 revolvers preferring a large bore with practiced shot control.
As far as snubbies go I still prefer a big bore with more boom than bang.
As far as snubbies go I still prefer a big bore with more boom than bang.
Lots of strikes against that one before I ever get to the repulsive appearance.
Think a 1 7/8" J frame is hard to shoot? With virtually no sight radius and any torque during trigger pull being extremely exaggerated that thing will redefine the term belly gun.
Why the short barrel when you are already trying to conceal that big ol frame and grip? Seems rather pointless.
Like so many things in the gun industry today it seems more a gimmick than a functional new idea.
Think a 1 7/8" J frame is hard to shoot? With virtually no sight radius and any torque during trigger pull being extremely exaggerated that thing will redefine the term belly gun.
Why the short barrel when you are already trying to conceal that big ol frame and grip? Seems rather pointless.
Like so many things in the gun industry today it seems more a gimmick than a functional new idea.
I'm rather fond of the ugly duckling and have considered picking one up just because. Problem is it's massive for a barrel length that sucks, ballistically speaking, on a piece that's supposed to be for defense.
I'll take diminished ballistics in trade for a compact, easily concealed revolver, and do, everyday -- but this behemoth has all the drawbacks with none of the advantages.
And pocket carry? Must be one helluva pocket...
I'll take diminished ballistics in trade for a compact, easily concealed revolver, and do, everyday -- but this behemoth has all the drawbacks with none of the advantages.
And pocket carry? Must be one helluva pocket...
My .357 3" 60-15 is as short as I will go in that loading. And that gun is ugly, besides. Eight shots? Buy a .357 Sig. Easier to shoot.
LittleCooner
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This one reminds me of those guns people buy, shoot once and then trade them off. Not for me.
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Nope. I own, shoot and carry one. Me like it a lot
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I don't think I would want to try and qualify on the DCJS Virginia Modified Double Action Qualification Course with that revolver. Did it many times with a Model 64 - 2". Total of 60 rounds. 7, 15, and 25 yards. See below from DCJS Website.
Qualification Score: 70%
Each officer is restricted to the number of magazines carried on duty. Magazines shall be loaded to their full capacity. Range instructor shall determine when magazines will be changed.
PHASE 1 - 7 YARD LINE: With loaded magazine, on command fire 1 round in 2 seconds or fire 2 rounds in 3 seconds, make weapon safe, holster, repeat until 6 rounds have been fired.
1. On command draw and fire 2 rounds in 3 seconds, make weapon safe, holster, repeat until 6 rounds have been fired.
2. On command draw and fire 6 rounds strong hand and 6 rounds weak hand in 20 seconds for semi-auto and 30 seconds for revolver, make weapon safe and holster.
PHASE 2 -15 YARD LINE: Point Shoulder Position
1. On command draw and fire 1 round in 2 seconds or 2 rounds in 3 seconds, make weapon safe, holster, repeat until 6 rounds have been fired.
2. On command draw and fire 2 rounds in 3 seconds, holster and repeat until 6 rounds have been fired.
3. On command draw and fire 6 rounds in 12 seconds, make weapon safe and holster.
PHASE 3 - 25 YARD LINE: On command fire 6 rounds from prone, 6 rounds from kneeling and 6 rounds from standing until 18 rounds have been fired in 75 seconds for semi-auto, strong hand; for revolver,
90 seconds, strong hand. The order of position and use of cover/concealment and decocking is optional with the instructor.
SCORING - B21, B21X targets - use indicated K value with a maximum 300 points divided by 3 to obtain percent.
B27 target - 8,9,10,X rings = 5 points, 7 ring = 4 points, hits on silhouette = 3 points divided by 3 to obtain percent.
Q target - 5 points inside the bottle, 3 points outside the bottle on the target. Divide by 3 to obtain percent.
Qualification Score: 70%
Each officer is restricted to the number of magazines carried on duty. Magazines shall be loaded to their full capacity. Range instructor shall determine when magazines will be changed.
PHASE 1 - 7 YARD LINE: With loaded magazine, on command fire 1 round in 2 seconds or fire 2 rounds in 3 seconds, make weapon safe, holster, repeat until 6 rounds have been fired.
1. On command draw and fire 2 rounds in 3 seconds, make weapon safe, holster, repeat until 6 rounds have been fired.
2. On command draw and fire 6 rounds strong hand and 6 rounds weak hand in 20 seconds for semi-auto and 30 seconds for revolver, make weapon safe and holster.
PHASE 2 -15 YARD LINE: Point Shoulder Position
1. On command draw and fire 1 round in 2 seconds or 2 rounds in 3 seconds, make weapon safe, holster, repeat until 6 rounds have been fired.
2. On command draw and fire 2 rounds in 3 seconds, holster and repeat until 6 rounds have been fired.
3. On command draw and fire 6 rounds in 12 seconds, make weapon safe and holster.
PHASE 3 - 25 YARD LINE: On command fire 6 rounds from prone, 6 rounds from kneeling and 6 rounds from standing until 18 rounds have been fired in 75 seconds for semi-auto, strong hand; for revolver,
90 seconds, strong hand. The order of position and use of cover/concealment and decocking is optional with the instructor.
SCORING - B21, B21X targets - use indicated K value with a maximum 300 points divided by 3 to obtain percent.
B27 target - 8,9,10,X rings = 5 points, 7 ring = 4 points, hits on silhouette = 3 points divided by 3 to obtain percent.
Q target - 5 points inside the bottle, 3 points outside the bottle on the target. Divide by 3 to obtain percent.
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Some people definitely like them. This is several hundred north of msrp.
SMITH&WESSON S&W M327 PERFORMANCE CENTER 357 2" 8 SHOT 170245 327 VERY NICE - Revolvers at GunBroker.com : 886055559
SMITH&WESSON S&W M327 PERFORMANCE CENTER 357 2" 8 SHOT 170245 327 VERY NICE - Revolvers at GunBroker.com : 886055559
Seems the best combination for an 8 shot snubby that you can get. Should be easy enough to shoot. I have handled smaller lighter weight guns of that caliber. And like to carry them. Nicer on your hip or elsewhere then a full size gun for a long day or many miles of carrying. I am planning on getting one at some point . I have admired them since they came out.
Sometimes things are done because they can be, not because they should be....this revolver might be a case in point.
Robert
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I would like to try one. It certainly has my interest. Its not pretty but it's supposed to be a tool not a jewel.
I have one. I'm surprised by how many negative comments there are on the looks. I think this is one of those that grows on you. It looks awkward at first, but somehow it becomes weirdly beautiful after a while. After watching a few videos on it, I fell in love with it. The video comments were also overwhelmingly positive on its looks.
One thing is for sure.. This thing attracts a lot of attention. When I picked it up from the gun shop, there were several lookers. Even the store clerk was intrigued and said he's never seen one before. He was so impressed with it that he didn't even charge me a transfer fee. One thing I'll admit that would help with the looks are short grips. The stock large grips just don't fit the short barrel.
Some of the things that makes this thing cool to me is:
8 shots
Can be used with or without moon clips
Scandium frame (only 20 oz)
Titanium barrel and cylinder
The combination of titanium/scandium/wood gives a unique look
The trigger feel is friggen awesome
3.5 lb trigger in single action (yeah, I know single action gains no respect, but when you try it on this one, you can't help but smile)
This is just one of those things that are unique, and I like unique. Unique things help me compensate
One thing is for sure.. This thing attracts a lot of attention. When I picked it up from the gun shop, there were several lookers. Even the store clerk was intrigued and said he's never seen one before. He was so impressed with it that he didn't even charge me a transfer fee. One thing I'll admit that would help with the looks are short grips. The stock large grips just don't fit the short barrel.
Some of the things that makes this thing cool to me is:
8 shots
Can be used with or without moon clips
Scandium frame (only 20 oz)
Titanium barrel and cylinder
The combination of titanium/scandium/wood gives a unique look
The trigger feel is friggen awesome
3.5 lb trigger in single action (yeah, I know single action gains no respect, but when you try it on this one, you can't help but smile)
This is just one of those things that are unique, and I like unique. Unique things help me compensate
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I like scandium guns for carry, their lightness is amazing. That said, I never could warm up to the new snub 327 . I really like the older 327 PD though. Wish they kept that one in the lineup.
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dsf
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Reminds me of the putative Hemingway shortest story -
"For sale. Baby shoes - never worn"
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I own one.... a 5" barrel... kinda wish I had the snubbie..I picked mine up in 2018 when you could actually find one. Love the action and the 8 rounds.... and the cool factor with both the top and bottom rails on thr 5". Of course they are called TRR8 (or a badazz), or R8...
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I have one. I'm surprised by how many negative comments there are on the looks. I think this is one of those that grows on you. It looks awkward at first, but somehow it becomes weirdly beautiful after a while. After watching a few videos on it, I fell in love with it. The video comments were also overwhelmingly positive on its looks.
One thing is for sure.. This thing attracts a lot of attention. When I picked it up from the gun shop, there were several lookers. Even the store clerk was intrigued and said he's never seen one before. He was so impressed with it that he didn't even charge me a transfer fee. One thing I'll admit that would help with the looks are short grips. The stock large grips just don't fit the short barrel.
Some of the things that makes this thing cool to me is:
8 shots
Can be used with or without moon clips
Scandium frame (only 20 oz)
Titanium barrel and cylinder
The combination of titanium/scandium/wood gives a unique look
The trigger feel is friggen awesome
3.5 lb trigger in single action (yeah, I know single action gains no respect, but when you try it on this one, you can't help but smile)
This is just one of those things that are unique, and I like unique. Unique things help me compensate
They do look nice to me too. There are just a bunch of tacticool and old school fudds nowadays.
Full house 125 or 158 grain .357? Agreed.
But have you spent much time behind modern defense .357 loads? Remington Golden Saber 125gr, Speer Gold Dot 135gr Short Barrel, and either mid-grain loaded from Critical Defense/Duty just to name a few. Powder's optimized for low flash and in my experience it's pretty effective compared to the old cannon blast days.
(Though some credibly argue that a big fireball can assist greatly in a psychological stop.)
That said, I'd be concerned what deleterious effect most serious rounds would have on that titanium cylinder...
When I was young, that used to happen to me in bars....it just didn't involve guns.
