What's Your Choice For Ammo In A 9x19?

[BarbC]

In the Walther PPS, I like the Gold Dot Short Barrel 124gr +p.

For plinking - WalMart's Winchester 115gr 100-round bulk box.

Basically, a bullet is a bullet. Controllability and confidence are what's going to matter.

 

[prochi2k]

For plinking, like Barb, Winchester Whitebox. But for carry It's usually with federal hydra shox or Ranger SXT.
I've had/seen patients with GSW so I don't really put much weight on the type of bullet, JMHO. I think placement is key, again just my 2 cents.

 

[am91249]

Respectfully, you're full of ****.

No disrespect meant.

Oh I am sure I am but I expect anyone that has a different opinion than you always is.

 

[mp357]

My 1st & 2nd choices are: 124 gr Gold Dot +P & Fed 115 gr JHP +P+..

As for the sub plot about bullets and lawyers, It's really simple; It's either a justifiable shooting or it is not. There was either a threat on your life or it was not...If you were in fear of your life, you can use a railroad spike in his forehead and you will be ok. It will however, cost you time and money even being in the right.

 

[10ring]

I mostly agree about not worrying about the ammo from a legal standpoint. But a really dumb choice could be that little something to push the wrong prosecutor or family member over the edge and get you charged/sued, and might be just enough to tip the balance against you in the mind of some juror.

Like I said, I mostly agree it is not an issue, but I just saw an ad for "The Terminator" shotgun rounds with a big full-color picture of the grim reaper on the box......The ad copy reads

"The lethality contained within the hollow core slug of our terminator 12 GA. almost can't be advertised. Upon impact, This slug mushrooms and expands to nearly 2 inches, stopping the slug from totally penetrating your objective. This rapid expansion forces the dozen of tiny pellets to spread through your objective like a cancerous disease, opening an area at the impact point equal to a softball! The cavity created has the shock effect of 95%! That means only 5% of any living being could survive this kind of hit."

Leaving the quality and value of this crap out of the discussion, I don't know that you would really want to be on trial with this box sitting on the prosecutor's table throughout the trial.

Sorry to participate in drifting the thread off topic.

 

[Spotteddog]

No comment on this round, or it's favorite loads. Other than to say thank you all for helping me get to know a bit better, a load I've zero experience with.

 

[gmchenry]

Mall ninja ammo.

 

[bigt5150]

First and foremost make sure the chosen load functions,cycles reliably and is controllable and accurate. That being said my personal preferences are:
1. Federal 124gr. +p+ Hydra Shok
2. Black Hills 124gr. +p
3. Winchester T-Series 127gr. +p+
4. Speer 124gr. Gold Dots.

As you can see I'm kind of fond of the 124gr. weight class with a velocity increase. This helps to compensate for the short barrel. Once again this is a personal preference.

 

[CTPete]

Win. Silvertips 115 gr. or 147 gr.

 

[10ring]

So many choices, so little time and money to shoot them...

 

[shawn mccarver]

Originally posted by user:

Originally posted by Webby:
From a legal standpoint; check out the thoughts put forward by Mas Ayoob.
Carry what the local PD caries(if 9mm). If you ever have to use it, greatly helps "protect" you from a legal or civil charge that you used something improper.
This is a also a very good reason NOT to use handloads. A lawyer imply that your handloads were somehow excessive, inhumane etc.

I respectfully suggest that this is a load of crap. The reason for having a defensive handgun is to kill people. No lawyer needs anything more than that to show you had the willingness to kill. The question is going to be whether the circumstances were right for you to engage in behavior likely to lead to the death of another person. If you drew your weapon righteously, with the correct mental intent, then you're cool. If you didn't, you're screwed. (To use the technical legal terms.)

My preferences are all for Federal: hydrashock in the lightweight Kahr PM9, HST in the middleweight Kahr K9 and Sig 229, and HST +P in the relatively heavy Sig 226.

I must respectfully disagree with you as to the reason for a defensive handgun. It is NOT to kill people, at least for my purposes. It is to stop someone who is trying to kill or cause serious bodily harm to me or my loved ones. Whether the person dies or not is not the issue. It is whether they stop their action right now. At least that is the reason I have a defensive handgun.

 

[bwh]

CorBon 115 gr +P. Reliable, accurate and has a good reputation as an effective round.

I'd try DPX, but none of the gun stores in my area seem to want to stock it.

 

[TN RAT]

Originally posted by cometpx4:
Winchester 115 silvertips. Accurate, never had one cause a malfunction and chronographed them at over 1100 fps out of my glock 17

Is this not the very load that failed to work for the FBI at the Miami shootout?

I believe it was also shot out of a Model 59, which has a 4 or 4.25 inch barrel with more velocity.

I would be leery of carrying that load.

 

[TN RAT]

I don't believe a shooting is as cut and dried as "was it righteous or not?"

There are people out there that want you to submit to their controls, and that often means you should have no right to self defense. When you excercise that right they will try and find some excuse to hang you out to dry.

I believe Mr. Ayoob's logic on reloads is sound, but one has to make their own choice.

The bottom line is that none of these situations are simple, but take into account many different factors.

 

[Wyatt Earp]

Originally posted by Cruiser RN:
Speer 124 gr +P Gold Dot.If it is good enough for NYPD it is good enough for me......God Bless......Mike

+1

But will switch to 147s as I standardize in heavy for caliber bullets.

 

[Wyatt Earp]

Originally posted by shawn mccarver:

Originally posted by user:

Originally posted by Webby:
From a legal standpoint; check out the thoughts put forward by Mas Ayoob.
Carry what the local PD caries(if 9mm). If you ever have to use it, greatly helps "protect" you from a legal or civil charge that you used something improper.
This is a also a very good reason NOT to use handloads. A lawyer imply that your handloads were somehow excessive, inhumane etc.

I respectfully suggest that this is a load of crap. The reason for having a defensive handgun is to kill people. No lawyer needs anything more than that to show you had the willingness to kill. The question is going to be whether the circumstances were right for you to engage in behavior likely to lead to the death of another person. If you drew your weapon righteously, with the correct mental intent, then you're cool. If you didn't, you're screwed. (To use the technical legal terms.)

My preferences are all for Federal: hydrashock in the lightweight Kahr PM9, HST in the middleweight Kahr K9 and Sig 229, and HST +P in the relatively heavy Sig 226.

I must respectfully disagree with you as to the reason for a defensive handgun. It is NOT to kill people, at least for my purposes. It is to stop someone who is trying to kill or cause serious bodily harm to me or my loved ones. Whether the person dies or not is not the issue. It is whether they stop their action right now. At least that is the reason I have a defensive handgun.

Gotta go with Shawn on this one.

 

[rivrat]

The only ammo I use in this caliber is Winchester white box 115 grain FMC from Walmart because it's cheap and all I use a 9mm for is plinking.

 

[gmchenry]

Originally posted by rivrat:
The only ammo I use in this caliber is Winchester white box 115 grain FMC from Walmart because it's cheap and all I use a 9mm for is plinking.

Since you don't carry a 9mm for SD, you apparently didn't read the OP's post;

Originally posted by burntmypiston:
If you carry a 9mm (specifically, a 3.5" barrel), what load do you use and why?

 

[Lt JL]

Federal BPLE +P+

 

[Kollin]

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