Where are our S&W revolvers being made?

[theprincipal]

Those could be sales numbers, not manufacturing numbers. In 2019, S&W moved their warehouse and distribution center from Springfield Mass. to Columbia Missouri.

Smith & Wesson is Closing Their Springfield, Mass. Facilities and Moving to Missouri

AFAIK, all current S&W firearms are made in Springfield. I haven't heard of any plans to move firearms manufacturing. In the past, some of their rifles and shotguns were made in Sweden, Japan and Turkey. None of those panned out too well.

Personally, I'd love to see S&W move completely out of Massachusetts and go to a more gun friendly State, taking their jobs and tax dollars with them.

My take is having firearm manufacturer's in blue states helps the pro-gun cause. Move all gun business to red states and the "us against them" issue builds greater on both sides. This may embolden people, but that isn't necessarily a good thing for widespread rights/acceptance.

 

[Dave686]

Many cities here in Florida would pay them to move here.

Our Republican Legislature and Leadership is anti-gun. Don't count on it.

Well… someone in Daytona Beach is doing something right. SCCY was supposed to move here to Tennessee, even bought land. Now they have scrapped that idea….staying in Dantona Beach.
The reason the owner gave is cheap labor in Daytona Beach. You would think he would have checked all that out before making the decision to move.
Gun maker SCCY to close Tennessee plant to expand in Daytona instead

On a lighter note… keeping folks here on topic is like herding cats.

 

[Jeppo]

I'm pretty sure my FFL would be thrilled to have the S&W factory next door.

 

[garbler]

The Connecticut River valley was the home of most of America's primary firearms companies so S&W was right in the middle and just North of Winchester, Colt etc. These factories saved our butts more than once but these days they are the target. A natural physical move would be next door to New Hampshire a very pro-gun state with generations of factory workers that have good work ethic and hand skills. Companies like Ruger, Sigarms, former T/C, etc. and others do well in this state.

I've often wondered where S&W moved their QA headquarters.

 

[Truckman]

SCCY was supposed to move here to Tennessee, even bought land. Now they have scrapped that idea….staying in Dantona Beach.

It would have made historical sense as four generations of my Mom's family made guns in Tennessee...They were highly regarded firearms in the Revolutionary War, and a former Congressman named Crockett was thought to have brought at least two of his with him when he arrived at a little mission near San Antonio as the Mexican Army approached from another direction...I've had my eyes open for years hoping to find one of the original Bean rifles, but I suspect the most highly valued examples might have been slung on the shoulders of a couple of Mexican soldiers, and perhaps later picked up from the ground at the San Jacinto Battleground...

Not to stray the topic too much further, but I also have in my possession a 1965 proof copy of "The Bean (Beene) and Wynn (Wynne) History and Genealogy" (click link below) which fully documents that story, so if the rollstamping on our revolvers can't be changed to "Made in the Republic of Texas," I would be almost as happy with "Made in Tennessee"......Ben

[ame]https://www.amazon.com/Bean-Beene-Wynne-Wynn-genealogy/dp/B0007HWQV2[/ame]

 

[smoothshooter]

I don't believe that it takes the same kind of skilled worker to assemble a revolver nowadays due to the use of MIM parts, CNC machining, etc. Much more hand machining and hand fitting in the old days. They could make them anywhere.



Henry was in Brooklyn, N.Y. They could have moved to MA and I didn't hear about it.

You are correct.
I edited my post to say that Henry needs to get out of New York for the same reasons.

 

[Golphin]

I don't know why they didn't move the Remington plant out of New York when they had the chance to start over. It seems like a dumb idea to keep it there.

Remington is all that is left as Marlin and the ammo part is gone and was purchased separately. That leaves the building and machinery for just the Remington products. I guess they stayed since the employees, machinery and parts were already there.

 

[Retired W4]

Wouldn't even consider a Kimber because they're made in Yonkers, NY.

UGH!

I believe they are in the process of moving to Troy Alabama, just North of Ft. Rucker., but I would also like to see S&W move to Arkansas. I just don't think Toad Suck, AR has the population base to support it. Maybe Jacksonville, near the old IJ plant.

 

[Golphin]

Our Republican Legislature and Leadership is anti-gun. Don't count on it.

I disagree big time. None of the liberal's gun grabbing bills got passed this year. The Republicans passed a few things that helped gun owners including the church bill. The Republican and Dem's from South Florida are the problems and they keep getting elected. The rest of Florida is not full of transplants voting for those types and so far can still out vote the Miami and SE area.

 

[KFW]

It has always been a mystery to me why any company would remain in a location where the powers that be do everything possible to shut you down. I would take my jobs, tax dollars, and infrastructure investment elsewhere.

Arkansas' doors are open—companies that call Arkansas home include SIG SAUER, Remington—Vista Outdoors, Daisy, Walther, Nighthawk Custom—Korth, Thermold Magazines, Umarex, Wilson Combat, and CZ USA!

We build the arms for the right to keep and bear.

Arkansas Firearms & Ammunition Manufacturing Companies Map

Try to shut them down and I'm sure they are paying higher taxes. I can't understand why all gun manufacturers are in all these anti-gun states.

 

[Pisgah]

Meanwhile, as aficianados on the S&W Forum debate the political implications of the company's location S&W executives are debating, "How can we squeeze another 3 cents profit from each revolver?" Guess which crowd makes the decision...

 

[pharmer]

........Personally, I'd love to see S&W move completely out of Massachusetts and go to a more gun friendly State, taking their jobs and tax dollars with them.

Well, about a dozen years ago Kissimmee rolled out the red carpet for Colt's. Did up a building right down to the blue "Colt" awning over the door. No taxes for 10 years (might have been $1/yr). Immediate savings over the $80/hr wages/ benefits they were paying in Conn. Except it never happened. The 66 promised jobs were like most promises, words. Most of the "incentives" were done up with taxpayer funds so nobody GAS. The gun business is viewed more negatively than the porn industry. And for the most part it's over for "real guns," the kind that last forever and look new after 100+ years. $.02. Joe

 

[ruger 22]

How about Intercourse PA, or Gobbler's Knob PA? Unfortunately they have turned blue.

 

[Plunky McPlunker]

I'm in Missouri. I'm incredibly happy they are here. I wonder if they are hiring? Columbia is a fine town. M-I-Z! Z-O-U!

 

[Dave686]

Well… I'm glad Tennessee won out. I'm retired now, but wish it would have happened sooner.
It will be interesting to see what firearms they actually make at the new facility.

 

[smoothshooter]

It has always been a mystery to me why any company would remain in a location where the powers that be do everything possible to shut you down. I would take my jobs, tax dollars, and infrastructure investment elsewhere.

Arkansas' doors are open—companies that call Arkansas home include SIG SAUER, Remington—Vista Outdoors, Daisy, Walther, Nighthawk Custom—Korth, Thermold Magazines, Umarex, Wilson Combat, and CZ USA!

We build the arms for the right to keep and bear.

Arkansas Firearms & Ammunition Manufacturing Companies Map

Location of sources of raw materials may be easier in the northeast.
I would hazard a guess that New England has had more of a culture of precision manufacturing with lots of skilled people in the machinist trades than many other regions. A local pool of third, fourth, or fifth generation precision metal workers and tradesmen makes hiring new employees less chancy, and may require less training. It's a lot about mind-set.
I would admit the above skilled employee pool may not be what it once was, with the degradation and unraveling of the fabric of our culture. That would make moving out of the region ( New England ) an easier decision to make.

I doubt S & W is making any guns in Missouri.
I live in the southern part of the state and have heard no mention of it. Almost no one, even shooters are even aware S & W has moved anything to Missouri.
I think all they have here is a distribution center. Must some kind of a tax thing.

 

[smoothshooter]

Well, about a dozen years ago Kissimmee rolled out the red carpet for Colt's. Did up a building right down to the blue "Colt" awning over the door. No taxes for 10 years (might have been $1/yr). Immediate savings over the $80/hr wages/ benefits they were paying in Conn. Except it never happened. The 66 promised jobs were like most promises, words. Most of the "incentives" were done up with taxpayer funds so nobody GAS. The gun business is viewed more negatively than the porn industry. And for the most part it's over for "real guns," the kind that last forever and look new after 100+ years. $.02. Joe

There are more guns and shooters than ever before in the US.
But the percentage of the total population doing so is dropping dramatically.

 

[Bald1]

Protocol design, Remington certainly would not have gotten any criticism for leaving NY. Kahr Arms did because of NY politics. The Bushmaster AR division that Remington sold moved out quick. Remington is/was trying to make it work in a little town on the Mohawk River. Generations of locals have worked there. The plant is gigantic and quite a landmark. Remington showed some dedication to these workers which is rarely seen in business nowadays.