Which progressive press do you use???

[old&slow]

Dillon 550B I've had since the late 80's.
No idea how many thousands I've loaded on it..

And a RCBS single stage for some of the rifle calibers I don't shoot much.

 

[Maximumbob54]

It's my understanding that the Dillion 550 isn't a true progressive either...ooops did I type that.

The best that you are going to get me to agree to is that it is it's own animal. Yes, if you put a case in the first station, pull the arm, move that first case to the second station and add a new case to the first, so on and so forth you can load in a progressive press manner.

A) you are talking about a press that is about as slow as a single stage press used for batch loading as you have to handle the cases way too often

B) the one guy I've known that had one of these told me he only loaded one at a time and would move them through the stages until complete as it was the only way to not knock cases over

C) the Dillon RL550 is progressive in that with a pull of the arm each station is used however it is not auto indexing which has nothing to do with being progressive in a reloading press

 

[steve696]

For small batches or to test out a new load, I use a RCBS JR single stage press that I started relaoding with, bought in the late '70's...For bulk reloading I use the original Hornady progressive, the Pro-7 (later called the Pro-jector) bought in '86.

 

[novalty]

The best that you are going to get me to agree to is that it is it's own animal. Yes, if you put a case in the first station, pull the arm, move that first case to the second station and add a new case to the first, so on and so forth you can load in a progressive press manner.

A) you are talking about a press that is about as slow as a single stage press used for batch loading as you have to handle the cases way too often

B) the one guy I've known that had one of these told me he only loaded one at a time and would move them through the stages until complete as it was the only way to not knock cases over

C) the Dillon RL550 is progressive in that with a pull of the arm each station is used however it is not auto indexing which has nothing to do with being progressive in a reloading press

My contention is that the 550B has to be manually indexed, unlike the 650 or Hornady's LnL AP.

A. I only mentioned CH4D's 444 X Pistol champ as it is a semi-progressive press. That is the way it is advertised, and yes the term includes the word progressive. Now if the definition of progressive includes an auto-indexing then the 550B would not be progressive, but semi-progressive.

B. I know a guy too...

C.

the Dillon RL550 is progressive in that with a pull of the arm each station is used however it is not auto indexing

The same would hold true for the CH4D 444 X Pistol Champ, wouldn't it?

 

[dsink]

Dillon 550B for me. I used a Lee 3 hole turrent for years but after finally getting the Dillon theres no way I would go back to the Lee. Hard to complain about 100 rounds loaded in 10 minutes.....

 

[shil]

I chose the Hornady LNL AP over the Dillon 550B because of its auto-indexing. I've had good results with it over the years. I still have my "old reliable" RCBS Rockchucker from over 30 years ago when I first got started in handloading and still use it for rifle cartridges and small lots of handgun ammunition.

 

[Maximumbob54]

It's my understanding that the Dillion 550 isn't a true progressive either...ooops did I type that.

Progressive Reloading Press
A reloading press designed to perform different operations on multiple cases with each pull of the press handle. Cases progress through the device via an indexing system, stopping at each tool station for processing

Note how it does not have the word "auto" in front of indexing.

INDEXING:

Index | Define Index at Dictionary.com

"to rotate (work) on a milling machine in order to repeat the milling operation at a new position."

The RL550 has a star ratchet that you rotate to index the cases to the next station. The RL550 as it comes uses each station for action done on a case with each pull of the arm with indexing done after each pull is complete. That was the logic I thought about applying when I was going to add the BL550 however a 550 is a 550 with or without priming and powder dropping. If I had used that logic then I would be splitting hairs over trying to get away with the Lee Classic Turret being "semi progressive" because with its additions and auto indexing rod you don't touch a case and with four pulls of the arm you have still loaded a case. But I chose not to go that route as that's pretty flim flam even to me and I place the CH4D in the same catagory because of it's complete lack of indexing.

My contention is that the 550B has to be manually indexed, unlike the 650 or Hornady's LnL AP.

A. I only mentioned CH4D's 444 X Pistol champ as it is a semi-progressive press. That is the way it is advertised, and yes the term includes the word progressive. Now if the definition of progressive includes an auto-indexing then the 550B would not be progressive, but semi-progressive.

B. I know a guy too...

C. The same would hold true for the CH4D 444 X Pistol Champ, wouldn't it?

A) See my above thoughts. I'm kicking a dead horse at this point.

B) Do you require I use a full name when I refer to someone other than myself? This is the guy that showed me how to setup a progressive press. He had the CH4D and a Dillon RL550 along with a couple of different single stage presses. At this point I don't know why I'm even explaining myself any more than I have.

C) Please feel free to start your own thread.

 

[novalty]

I've never heard of the Ten-X TX-40 progressive press. Can you shed some light on it, as I am curious about different presses.

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[Maximumbob54]

Touche!!!!

I put that one in there just to see if anyone would say anything about the TX-40...

It's a progressive for .50 BMG for the big kids to load their ammo. As far as I know it's the only non single stage press for loading the big one.

 

[novalty]

Touche!!!!

I put that one in there just to see if anyone would say anything about the TX-40...

It's a progressive for .50 BMG for the big kids to load their ammo. As far as I know it's the only non single stage press for loading the big one.

Hmm do you have a link, I'd love to see another 50 BMG press.

The only TX-40 I could find on the web was for reloading 40mm dummy training rounds, and it looked pretty laborious.

 

[Maximumbob54]

Brilliant... I was a digit off... It's the TX-50 press.

Ten-X Ammunition Home Page

 

[novalty]

Holy Press!

Thanks for posting that info!

 

[iouri]

Hmm, nobody is using 1050, or maybe they are too busy hauling boxes of ammo away for storage

 

[blujax01]

So far the scorecard on this poll looks like the Alabama/Notre Dame game - ROLL SMURF!!!

 

[310Pilot]

I had to vote Hornady L-n-L AP, although I am actually using its predecessor, the Pro-Jector (since the mid-80's), it just keeps on ticking and turning out excellent ammo. I am, however, considering purchasing a L-n-L AP and turning the Pro-Jector (from which the L-n-L was developed) into a dedicated press set up for .45 ACP. Remember, a man can never have too many guns or too many tools!

 

[Janet L.]

Hornady L&L

After looking at the Dillons, I opted for the Hornady LocknLoad.

I bought the contraption and the price of 9mm & .45acp promptly cratered - I couldn't buy bullets for what Wolf was charging for complete cartriges.

Now It's time to get the contraption set up. I've accumulated a bunch of brass, which it'll probably make short work of, once it's set up.

 

[blujax01]

Janet, you have a lot of accumulated knowledge available from some veteran reloaders here. (I'm not one of them). We kid around but when the rubber meets the road, these folks have your back!

 

[Maximumbob54]

After looking at the Dillons, I opted for the Hornady LocknLoad.

I bought the contraption and the price of 9mm & .45acp promptly cratered - I couldn't buy bullets for what Wolf was charging for complete cartriges.

Now It's time to get the contraption set up. I've accumulated a bunch of brass, which it'll probably make short work of, once it's set up.

Where are you trying to buy bullets that you can buy loaded ammo for less? They are charging you a pretty high price. There are a lot of bullet sellers that are far less than Wolf prices.

 

[Skip Sackett]

Ah, but the real beauty Janet is this: I will NEVER have a bullet shortage, NEVER! Why?
Because I cast my own!

As long as the neighbors have cars and don't like their tires to bounce down the road, I will have bullets!

All kidding aside, if I was going to shoot competition, I would cast all winter whether I needed the bullets or not. Reload in the spring and shoot all summer and do it all over again.

If I shot indoors, I guess I would have to buy plated bullets. If I had to......I would.....But I would hate it!

There are a few calibers I shoot that I do not cast for BUT, should things get sticky, I can load every single handgun, several carbines with lead bullets and be very well armed.

FWIW

p.s. If you cannot get that LNL AP to work satisfactorily, box it up, without the dies, but leave the shell plates, ship it to me, and I will give you what you have in it if you pay the shipping.

Fair enough?

 

[Maximumbob54]

Skip, you may yet drink from the cup of red Kool Aid...