Why a tiny gun?

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Concealed carry is an art of which some take seriously and some do not. What's comical to me are the excuses I hear. :rolleyes:

Those truly serious will find a way. They realize that concealed carry isn't perfect and and isn't natural. We make some sacrifices to carry the biggest gun we can.

Those sacrifices should not enable us to be lazy or make excuses. But because we are all different, some of us will chose the easy way, and some will chose the responsible way.

But the real question is.... Do you REALLY feel comfortable with your CHOICE? And what is your CHOICE based on? Laziness and convenience? Or your responsibility to yourself and family?

Make your choice using facts. Not emotion. Consider effectiveness over comfort. Choose wisely.
 
Allright guys I've read through the thread and can't qoute everything without taking all night.

In the past I've carried revolvers, I had a smith 642 and a LCR but I always felt under gunned. I practiced with them, practiced my reloads ect. But I came to the conclusion revolvers weren't for me.

I couldn't shoot them worth a darn like my Glock or P95 I had. One night I sat my 642 on top of my 19 andit really wasn't much smaller. Yea it was more comfortable to carry but the five rounds and slower reloads bothered me.

I can slap three times the rounds in my 19 quicker than I can reload a revolver. For me that's comforting!

My point of this thread wasn't to bash those who carry tiny guns, just wondering why.

As far as you folks go that say you don't go looking for trouble, don't live in a high crime rate area, doubt you'll ever need anything bigger than a pocket gun your kidding yourself!

I to live in a smaller town, hardly ever any crime ect! There's been some situations around here in the past couple years I'd never would have guessed would happen around here but it happened!


You may not go looking for a robbery or trouble but you never know when it might find you!

Not trying to cause a fuss here but just giving you guys my opinion. If it makes any of you guys feel better I'm gonna try to get with a buddy this weekend and shoot his M&P 9 for the first time. :D
 
I carry concealed virtually any time I'm away from the house. I have a g27 Glock .40 and a couple 2 1/2" S&W k-frame .357mags that easily could be used. The Glock with it's extended magazine holds 10+1. The gun I most often carry is my P3AT with 6+1 and a spare magazine holding 6. The reason is simply a matter of comfort. I hardly feel the P3AT on my belt and the spare mag is about the size of a Bic lighter.
I practice with the P3AT every time I shoot (about twice/mo) and feel comfortable with it out to about 10 yards. I have twice used it to qualify shooting Oregon's LEOSA course of fire. I shoot it two handed, one handed, and off handed. I shoot it aiming and point. I practice with it extensively BECAUSE it's the gun I most often use for cc.
If in unfamiliar places or if I feel the need I will carry the Glock but honestly, 90% of the time it will be the P3AT with the extra mag.
 
Simple answer to the question.... because I would rather have 5 rounds of .38 or 6 of .25 then nothing. If I did not have dress issues for work, and was not built on a 5'7" frame (I think I'm a "snubby") I would carry around a full size .40 or .45 all day long but I can't. So I have two options carry small or don't carry. While small is not my first choice, they meet a need, and if I remember the old saying "better a .22 in hand then a .45 in the safe".
 
Unless you stick to CNN, MSNBC etc for your news, there are multiple daily reports from all over the country of thugs attacking people in groups, pulling people out of cars etc. It's all over Youtube, it's a new sport. Judging things by the "good ole" days is not valid. You don't have to be a beagle to smell things have changed in this country, it's not 1990. Attempting to use the past and applying it to a scenario that is no longer true is myopic. Things are going downhill right now, I hope it changes.

As was said before no one, including even LEO wears a gun expecting(probability) to need it that day, they do because possibility. Roll your own dice it's cool, I hope you never have an issue. Just don't tell me I'm the one who does not grasp the actual threat level. Your posts say..you willing to take the chance, that's fine, I'm not, simple as that.

As I said before though...do your thing son....it's the American way. lol.
 
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Fat Old Guy said:
Some of us are less paranoid than others. :rolleyes:

I don't wear a helmet while driving my car because the likelihood of needing it is very, very small. I don't carry a parachute on planes for the same reason.
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People look at us *funny* when wearing a helmet in a car --- But those same people insist that I wear one when riding my motorcycle --- I guess they know better than I - eh?

OTOH - Try wearing a parachute on your next biz trip - TSA folks look at you way more than *funny* :eek:
 
Some generalizations:

There is always more than just one right way to do a thing.

Carrying anything is better than carrying nothing.

Assuming that people come in frame and personality categories of small, medium and large, a "one approach fits all" policy means that up to two thirds of individuals would be using a tool that is to some degree inappropriate for them.

I'm a free-market guy when it comes to carry decisions. Regulation is for banks (if you can get it).
 
DCWilson said:
Some generalizations:

There is always more than just one right way to do a thing.

Carrying anything is better than carrying nothing.

Assuming that people come in frame and personality categories of small, medium and large, a "one approach fits all" policy means that up to two thirds of individuals would be using a tool that is to some degree inappropriate for them.

I'm a free-market guy when it comes to carry decisions. Regulation is for banks (if you can get it).
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Now the size or disability part I agree with. Some people can only get away with certain guns physically. That's just the way it is. My wife carries a 908, anything bigger would not work. So as you said, in that scenario, any gun is better than no gun!!
 
WrongWay said:
That thar's funny, I don't care who you are!!!!!
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You laugh but there are some things that I have to wear sometimes that I can't carry what I prefer, I have to make do with what will work.

I can get away with a different piece in day clothes than I can in a slinky LBD with strappy sandals. I can get the .380 in and out of a thigh holster in something like that a lot easier than a .45

Maybe if I had skinnier legs?
 
Hey, I don't like it, but if I have a tiny purse and no pocket...not like I can stuff it down the front.
 
The way I act in public and the way I do at home is dramatically different.
I have always stayed out of trouble. Last fight was just out of HS. If I carried then, I would have shot that kid and be living in Concord NH in cell block J. We ended it with fists. He won.
I have a CC permit. # 1 reason is so I can drive to the range with my firearms out of sight. #2 is so I can carry a sidearm while Bow Hunting. I look at a sidearm during Bow season as a tool. I know I will sleep better if I break my leg and have to spend the night in the woods.
#3 Carry in public....and I don't....not sure when I will.
I don't want to be the guy that simply showed a firearm and landed in jail for 3 yrs.
I don't want to be the guy that killed a kid at night in self defense and have over 70% of the country think I need to burn and even if I get off, I will be sued by the kids family and loose everything.
I also don't want to be shot while sitting at a light because the idiot needed my Truck. Lock the doors and use my Commercial Truck driving skills (looking in the mirrors every 6 seconds) has gotten me home safe thus far.
I stay away from trouble and I think as of today that carrying a firearm with my temper will cause me more trouble.

At my Home. I have my Model 60 next to me as I write this. Small and easy to carry around the house.
Nightstand on my side is my 14 round .40 FNX. On her side the Model 28-2 in .38.
Colt AR in the closet with Hornady TAP, 30 rounds.
2 useless Boxers are down the hall, 1 will bark for sure, the other deaf.
1 Black Cat that will ask for more food. Also useless.

We live in an area that burglers like. We belong to a watch group (C). A & B are in other area's of town. Emails go out all the time. You can't walk or stop your car on the side of the road without the Cops getting called. Life in a small NH town, but it works for her and I and Today that is what matters.

Tomorrow, perhaps I will carry...My Model 60 and I am dam good with it.
 
StatesRightist said:
Just don't tell me I'm the one who does not grasp the actual threat level.
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I really don't think that you or many of your brethern do.

Let's use your example of a gang pulling you out of your car and beating you. It hasn't happened in my town but maybe it has in yours. So you pull out your Roscoe and pop one or two of them. One of two things will happen at this point. They will all back off crying, "We didn't mean no harm!" or they will swarm you and still beat the **** out of you or one of the gang will respond to your shooting and shoot you. Your 51 rounds will have done you no good.
 
Fat Old Guy said:
I really don't think that you or many of your brethern do.

Let's use your example of a gang pulling you out of your car and beating you. It hasn't happened in my town but maybe it has in yours. So you pull out your Roscoe and pop one or two of them. One of two things will happen at this point. They will all back off crying, "We didn't mean no harm!" or they will swarm you and still beat the **** out of you or one of the gang will respond to your shooting and shoot you. Your 51 rounds will have done you no good.
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Fat Old Guy said:
I really don't think that you or many of your brethern do.

Let's use your example of a gang pulling you out of your car and beating you. It hasn't happened in my town but maybe it has in yours. So you pull out your Roscoe and pop one or two of them. One of two things will happen at this point. They will all back off crying, "We didn't mean no harm!" or they will swarm you and still beat the **** out of you or one of the gang will respond to your shooting and shoot you. Your 51 rounds will have done you no good.
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1. A predictable, trite response....yes, after 5 or 6 go down, IF and it's a big IF, they are willing to die to get to you, you are in trouble. I havebeen in the situation of a mass riot and watched people scatter like rabbits when the gun starting going off....this is the norm, not the exception.
2. There are better things made for this scenario than semi-auto hand gun.

I was N.O. in Katrina, Baltimore in the winter crisis, East St.
Louis after a natural disaster... you are not talking to someone who is theorizing anything. What you seem to be unable to grasp in the concept of preparing for the possible, but not expecting it to happen.

You have your opinion, It's cool. Mine is based on my life, not yours. So as I said before, you do your thing, I'll do what I think I need to do based on things I've witnessed and let's hope neither one of us every gets in a position to need a gun period, much less having to use it or multiple people at the same time. God forbid.
 
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Fat Old Guy said:
Some of us are less paranoid than others. :rolleyes:

I don't wear a helmet while driving my car because the likelihood of needing it is very, very small. I don't carry a parachute on planes for the same reason.

I carry a pocketknife not a USMC Ka-Bar. Why? Because I don't normally need a giant knife.

I've been carrying since before many of you young'uns were born. I've worked in some pretty horrible places. The amazing thing is that I never needed my gun.

The reality is that in the vast majority of situations where a private citizen needs a gun only a few shots are fired, if any. Sure there may be a day that I say, "Gee, I wish that I had my AR-15 and a case of ammo" but there may also be a day that I'm driving and say, "Gee, I wish that I had my helmet, six-point harness, and a parachute."

Do what you want, I'll just chuckle when I look at you.
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Well sir, all I can say is good luck. Anything else I say will just be countered by excuses due to a lack of reality.
 
Fat Old Guy said:
Now you've been to all the bad spots in the country and I'm willing to bet that you've engaged in running gun battles in all of them which justifies your thoughts that we all need to gird ourselves for battle as if we are meeting the Red Army.

How many times have you needed your 51 rounds and two guns?
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This conversation is over, all you want to do is be disagreeable, you'll have to do that with someone else, I've got better things to do.

Have a good night.
 
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