Why I am happy I don't live in NY

[silvercorvette]

Originally posted by CAJUNLAWYER:
Was in Sag Harbor fall 07 and it was beautiful. Kinda neat seein' how de rich folk live

I do like to travel and I really want to visit every state before I cross the pond. But I DO like home de bestest

Silver-Out behind the Courthouse is where I do a lot of my transactions-Trunk to trunk-usually we get a couple of deputies stop to see what's being traded/bought. One time I was selling a 20 ga sxs quail gun to another lawyer and there must have been 4-5 deputies coming over to check out the shotgun.

I used to go to Sag harbor a lot but the Hamptons crowd makes getting there a pain in the butt. I used to take all the back roads but eventually the city folks learned the back roads. All the traffic must go over two bridges so unless you can afford a private copter to get out to your weekend place you are going to be stuck on a one lane road traffic jam that starts Friday night and doesn't end till Sunday. Sag Harbor is beautiful, the problem it is overcrowded

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Originally posted by silvercorvette:
unless you can afford a private copter

to get out to your weekend place

you are going to be stuck on a one lane road traffic jam that starts Friday night and doesn't end till Sunday. Sag Harbor is beautiful, the problem it is overcrowded

Hold on there sparky-you have obviously mistaken me for one of those rich lawyers in Manhattan-I'm just a poor country lawyer tryin' to eke out a living-if they ever legalize dope I'm screwed

 

[ladder13]

Originally posted by CAJUNLAWYER:
Was in Sag Harbor fall 07 and it was beautiful. Kinda neat seein' how de rich folk live

Funny that you mention Sag Harbor. I have a friend who lives in the Bronx and has a small house in Sag Harbor. He's had it for 25 years or so, before the "rich and famous" found it.He was an auto mechanic by trade, just retired. His house is easy to spot, the only one under 2000 sq ft. BUT his house is right on a cove leading out to the LI Sound. Location, location, location. He does not associate with the "uppity" newcomers, he never ventures into town. His family is known as the "dock people" as they spend their weekends partying at the dock or skiing the Sound.
Frank has been offered a couple million for his land, but as he says,"where am I going to go, this is my life I love this place".
Frank is as down to earth as they come, typical Bronx boy. And as happy as anyone can be. He is not rich and has never been rich.

 

[silvercorvette]

Originally posted by CAJUNLAWYER:

Originally posted by silvercorvette:
unless you can afford a private copter

to get out to your weekend place

you are going to be stuck on a one lane road traffic jam that starts Friday night and doesn't end till Sunday. Sag Harbor is beautiful, the problem it is overcrowded

Hold on there sparky-you have obviously mistaken me for one of those rich lawyers in Manhattan-I'm just a poor country lawyer tryin' to eke out a living-if they ever legalize dope I'm screwed

Nope that was not directed at you, it was directed at Howard Stern, Trump, Paul McCarneny and others that copter out to their summer places

Stern paid $20,000,000 just for the 4 acres of dirt to build the house on

Link to photo of his house

 

[PRC74]

I am from Ft. Lauderdale. I worked with a lady who had moved there from LINY. She continuely complained about living in FL and how great it was in NY. After living there for about 3 years she went home for a vacation. Upon return she had completely changed and said she would never go back to NY. I guess it is hard to see how things are unless you have something to compare it too. However S.FL. is now like NY/NJ, that is why I am in SC now.

 

[G-Mac]

Originally posted by zercool:
Let's clarify a bit, though...

What you just described is entirely legal with long guns.

Handguns, no - that involves letting the state know it's changing hands. Of course, PA requires you to do FTF at an FFL also ... so NY isn't alone in weird gun laws.

Let's clarify a little bit further. Silvercorvette is a displaced New Yorker, living in South Carolina, that now bashes New York every chance he gets.

Frankly, it's getting old.

 

[perpster]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I am under the impression that an FFL's responsibility in transferring a gun does not include a stolen property check.

 

[silvercorvette]

Originally posted by G-Mac:

Originally posted by zercool:
Let's clarify a bit, though...

What you just described is entirely legal with long guns.

Handguns, no - that involves letting the state know it's changing hands. Of course, PA requires you to do FTF at an FFL also ... so NY isn't alone in weird gun laws.

Let's clarify a little bit further. Silvercorvette is a displaced New Yorker, living in South Carolina, that now bashes New York every chance he gets.

Frankly, it's getting old.

I believe you live in the northern part of the state which is a heck of a lot better than the southern part that I left. I was born in CT but lived in NY for over 50 years and have seem the place I live turn from beautifully farm country to overcrowded shopping malls and traffic jams on the LIE.

If it bothers you I will do my best to refrain, but all the things I mention about NY are true, and the event regarding the gun purchase did take place. Maybe there are other people out there that are unhappy with things and may be interested in relocating and may find the information useful.

I have gotten private emails on this forum and other forums that are from NY and requested information about moving. So some may consider it bashing while others may consider it informative. I am curious about one thing, do you consider what I said to be untrue? Because if I was lying about NY that would be bashing, but if I am telling the truth it just doesn't seem like bashing to me

 

[ladder13]

Well since you mentioned it, in the political Forum you said "I was stuck living in NY where normal capacity AR's were not allowed unless you found a pre-band version". That statement is NOT true. AR's have ALWAYS been available in NY, maybe not the version you want, but they have been for sale and continue to be for sale. Maybe your definition of an AR is a flash hider and collapsible stock, but my post ban will shoot just as well as any AR you can buy off the shelf in your so-called free State.
That's how false interner rumors get started, and gullible people believe it.
Or were you just referring to magazines?
Not trying to play gotcha here but, your statement was incorrect.

 

[ladder13]

Originally posted by G-Mac:

Let's clarify a little bit further. Silvercorvette is a displaced New Yorker, living in South Carolina, that now bashes New York every chance he gets.
Frankly, it's getting old.

To say nothing of the generous NY State pension, which he wouldn't have gotten in SC(I know, I'm also getting a very nice NY pension). And you sell your "shack" up here and buy the Ponderosa in SC.
I don't begrudge anyone doing well, but don't trash the place that allowed you to retire in comfort.

 

[indiandave]

I use to live in New Jersey about 10 miles from NYC. The city is a great place to vist but I would not like to live there. A lot to see and do but I was always happy to Cross the Hudson and get out of Dodge.

Now I live in Pennylvania in the boonies. I'll go to NYC to see a ball game once in a while but not that often anymore. The price of major league tickets is out of sight.

 

[silvercorvette]

Originally posted by ladder13:

Originally posted by G-Mac:

Let's clarify a little bit further. Silvercorvette is a displaced New Yorker, living in South Carolina, that now bashes New York every chance he gets.
Frankly, it's getting old.

I earned every penny of my pension, and suffer ever day from the accumulation of bangs bumps and bruises I got while I was earning it. But I don’t regret it, I loved the job and would have stayed on past my 20 if injuries didn't force me to retire.

As far as money goes, the job was not about money, I started off making $7,000 a year. I worked all the holidays that were part of my schedule. When we had a day off on a weekday we couldn't go anywhere if we were scheduled for court. We were expected to stay home near a phone on our day off waiting for a call to appear in court. If we got the call we got paid for going to court on our day off, if we weren't called we were stuck at home on our day off without any compensation. So even the few days off weren't our own time. I worked shift work and changed my hours every week. Try working 8AM to 4PM one week 4PM to midnight the next week and Midnight to 8AM the next. and we didn't get much time between shifts to adjust. If we finished a midnight Friday we had to come back in midnight Sunday. 20 years of changing every week will really screw you up, there was a study done that links changing shifts to a shorter life expectancy. Probably the reason we get that pension is they don’t expect us to live long enough to collect it and if we do we won’t live long enough to collect much of it.
The reason I was able to buy a house in NY and sell it to buy a house in SC was I worked two jobs. Working two jobs probably didn't help my health either. So whatever I have here in SC was earned from working an extra job and I would gladly give back most of the pension I have if I could trade it to get my health back. I wouldn’t exactly call my situation living in comfort, my body is so mucked up that I have to deal with constant pain, I wouldn’t call that retiring in comfort. By the way I know a lot of cops that never lived long enough to collect a penny of that generous pension you speak of.
Some people look at others that have managed to acquire nice things and think it would be great to have those things, but what they don't consider is all the stuff the person had to go through to get it.

When I first started as a cop I couldn't believe they were paying me to do something I loved to do, it was a job I looked forward to going to, and even thought I got my share of getting banged up I accepted it as part of the job. I know Suffolk cops make a lot of money with a lot of benefits now but as I mentioned money wasn't the reason I became a cop I sure as heck could have made more money elsewhere and maybe I would not be so much of a physical wreck today.

I don't begrudge anyone on this forum that has been able to earn a good living because I know how much work it takes to earn it. But don't start counting the money in my wallet because I earned every penny of it.
The funny thing is even knowing the price I paid in the pain I suffer from every day, and the holiday gatherings I missed, parties I missed and failed relationships because some woman wouldn’t accept the fact that you couldn't be with them on Christmas or other important days, I would still do it all over again.

And even thought the cops today probably earn more than I can dream of, have more days off, don’t have to change hours every week, have better equipment (we didn’t have bullet resistance vests back when I started and in the summer time the cars weren't air conditioned, in the summer it got so hot we couldn't sit in the car, we would park under a tree open all 4 doors and stand outside the car for a few minutes to cool down) I don’t begrudge the new guys they because they earn it. But I don’t apologize for my pension because I earned it


PS I object to you calling me a legend in my mind, and being untruthful, personal attacks are not allowed

To say nothing of the generous NY State pension, which he wouldn't have gotten in SC(I know, I'm also getting a very nice NY pension). And you sell your "shack" up here and buy the Ponderosa in SC.
I don't begrudge anyone doing well, but don't trash the place that allowed you to retire in comfort.

 

[silvercorvette]

Originally posted by ladder13:
Well since you mentioned it, in the political Forum you said "I was stuck living in NY where normal capacity AR's were not allowed unless you found a pre-band version". That statement is NOT true. AR's have ALWAYS been available in NY, maybe not the version you want, but they have been for sale and continue to be for sale. Maybe your definition of an AR is a flash hider and collapsible stock, but my post ban will shoot just as well as any AR you can buy off the shelf in your so-called free State.
That's how false interner rumors get started, and gullible people believe it.
Or were you just referring to magazines?
Not trying to play gotcha here but, your statement was incorrect.

Can I buy a new AR in NY with a 30 round magazine? If I can buy a new AR with a 30 magazine then I will admit I was wrong

 

[ladder13]

Originally posted by silvercorvette:
PS I object to you calling me a legend in my mind, and being untruthful, personal attacks are not allowed

My tag line "some people are legends in their own minds" has been there for at least 6 months now, don't understand where it became personal towards you.

I can buy a new AR and in the same shop buy all the 30rd mags I want, though 30rounders are not my preference.I prefer 10 or 20 rd mags. Do they ship with the gun? No, but the hi-caps sit 6 feet away from the new AR's if you want them. Admittedly finding an AR can be a problem nowadays, but it's a nationwide issue not just one specific to any one state.
Buying a new AR with any mag is/was as easy as buying a Ruger 10/22 up until Nov.

 

[silvercorvette]

Originally posted by ladder13:

Originally posted by silvercorvette:
PS I object to you calling me a legend in my mind, and being untruthful, personal attacks are not allowed

My tag line "some people are legends in their own minds" has been there for at least 6 months now, don't understand where it became personal towards you.

I thought it was directed toward me, most people separate their tag line with something like this **************** or this ++++++++++, or this=================, or change their tag line to a different color. Yours appeared as if it was part of your post


PS I bought an FN 5.7 when I was in NY and all the had were substandard 10 round mags, I couldn't buy normal 20 round capacity round till I went outside NY, I assume the same holds true for thirty round mags because every on line site clearly states they will not ship to NY.

I also tried to but a black powder revolver when I lived in NY but Midway refuses to ship to NY, I had to wait till I moved and have mine shipped to my new address.

If someone in NY is selling 30 rounders I have my doubts if they are within the law because ever on line sellers refuses to ship to NY. I would rather that you not name the place where you are buying 30 round mags because I suspect they could get in trouble for it, I'll just take your word you can buy them but I have my doubts about them being legal.

 

[ladder13]

Well, if you take a minute or two to see my posting history, you'll see that it's been part of my tag line for awhile.
Or you can just make assumptions.
In any event, I'm done with this particular thread.
But anyone bashing/trashing NYer's will be met with resistance. I'm tired of it, it's old news, we know some don't like NY. We get it already. Sorry I don't live in a perfect State like some of the others here. I'm just a regular guy doing the best I can in an imperfect State.
Pardon me I need to go take my meds now.

PS 30 rd mags ARE legal to own in NY. The shops have them on display, no one is hiding anything, there's no reason to hide them.
Life, to me anyways, is more than just about guns and mags(or who doesn't ship to NY). I don't lose any sleep knowing that a company won't ship a lousy 30 rd mag to NY. So what?
I've got more guns and mags and ammo than I'll ever need.
Want hi-cap mags? Call Collector Rifle and Ammo at 845-227-4100. They'll be more than happy to ship them. IT'S LEGAL.
Out of state merchants don't want to ship to NY and other States because they don't want to deal with complex laws.Just because some merchants don't want to ship an item to NY, Mass, Cali or somewhere else does not mean the item is illegal. Any mags manufactured pre 1994 are OK to possess in NY, no matter the capacity. Some places such as NYC may have their own regs, it does not concern me as I don't live there anymore.
I wish people knew what the heck they were talking about(especially LEO's) before spreading falsehoods.

 

[David LaPell]

As a New Yorker myself, many people have asked me why I stay. One of the biggest reasons is my family and my job. I have a good job, with good seniority, and a good pension. Plus living in the Adirondack Mountains is probably about as close to nature as one can get, at least for me. I have been all over this country, to at least 30 states, and I keep coming back every time. Most people think of New York, and of course they instantly put the whole state in the same class as New York City. I used to travel to NYC at least 3 times a week, and if you have never been there, you're not missing anything. You can smell it before you see it. Its a dump. But people who have never been to this state, think of that place before they ever consider there is the rest of the state. And they think we all act the same way too. Believe me, us folks from upstate NY (or to anyone in the Albany area, northern NYers), we have the same opinion of the majority of NYC that the rest of you from outside the state do. I liked the whole premise of Escape from New York. Wall the whole thing off and don't let them out.

 

[zercool]

Originally posted by David LaPell:
As a New Yorker myself, many people have asked me why I stay. One of the biggest reasons is my family and my job. I have a good job, with good seniority, and a good pension. Plus living in the Adirondack Mountains is probably about as close to nature as one can get, at least for me. I have been all over this country, to at least 30 states, and I keep coming back every time. Most people think of New York, and of course they instantly put the whole state in the same class as New York City. I used to travel to NYC at least 3 times a week, and if you have never been there, you're not missing anything. You can smell it before you see it. Its a dump. But people who have never been to this state, think of that place before they ever consider there is the rest of the state. And they think we all act the same way too. Believe me, us folks from upstate NY (or to anyone in the Albany area, northern NYers), we have the same opinion of the majority of NYC that the rest of you from outside the state do. I liked the whole premise of Escape from New York. Wall the whole thing off and don't let them out.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

I'm four years in to a thirty-year government pension. My wife has a solid job with the local university. We're buying a house this year (we hope).

Lest everyone think that all of NY real estate is screwed up, we're buying a 1300sf 3br/2ba ranch with a full walk out basement for me to finish ... on 5 acres. State land is a ten-minute walk from the back property line. Deer and turkey are abundant. I can literally walk out my back door and hunt. There's a bow shooting club a mile up the road one direction and a public golf course a mile the other. It's a 25-minute drive to work, or fifteen to the 24/7 supermarkets and the home improvement stores. Five minutes to the mom'n'pop in the village. Private well flowing 12gpm of the best water I've ever tasted. Annual taxes around 3k.

It may not be a mansion, but it'll sure as hell be our home... and it's in NY. And you know what? NY is HOME.

 

[S. Hammer]

I have a house bought and paid for in western NY state. Can't wait to retire from this ****hole state and move back home. Yes, I'll have to register my revolvers, and I'll probably sell my AK, but I really doubt I'll need it anyway. Give me the Finger Lakes anyday.

 

[tripledipper]

I was always told to take the pension and run (you know, 20 or 25 and out) to a place where the cost of living was less for housing, taxes and the like and the climate was more moderate. I followed that advice and one son already has also, but without those generous pension benefits from NYC (compared to what is given down here)it would have been more difficult. Thank you, New York! I also know many who enjoy all four seasons and went further upstate or to PA.