Why so much hate towards the magnas???

[Malamute]

For some reason I cant get the advanced to work and include quotes.

Choking up never helped me with magnas, and I never shot a Smith any other way. The hump on the frame gives the proper index to the hand and allows consistent shooting, particularly with guns with any recoil. As i mentioned before, i tried to like magnas, I put them on several guns that came with targets, but handling and shooting them, I just didnt care for them. Feel and performance was more important than looking old time cool I guess.

Wood targets can be trimmed for concealed carry, the smooths are the best. I never liked all the spare timber on my factory 29 grips, so got some smooth rosewood targets and trimmed about 3/8" off the bottom, and shaped them more like some good feelings targets I had from the 50s. This was for open carry, but it was a daily carry gun for many years in the hills of Az and later in the rockies. I also have a set of smooth targets for a K frame, they are trimmed off even with the frame on the bottom and reshaped for comfort. The bottom of my hand hangs off slightly, but for the compact size, they are pretty nice feeling, and far more comfortable to shoot. Im sure it gives many heartburn to hear of the grips Ive worked on, most were from the 80s, when they are commonly available for $15 at most gun shops and gun shows. I'll still work on grips if they are chunky or blocky, which the majority of later targets are, but if refinished well, arent an eyesore at all.

There are some good aftermarket wood target grips, many I didnt care for because of the thin part at the top rear, such as many Herretts grips are. I never kept any very long when I came into them, they didnt even give enough wood to rework into something i liked, though other makes do.

Back to heartburn, choking up on the grip properly with harder kicking guns can cause issues with the overly long target hammer spurs at times when shooting the gun empty double action. After being annoyed by them an many occasions, I ground most down to service size spurs and have never regretted it at all. Ive not had any problem getting the hammer cocked for deliberate single action shooting when desired. I do think the target grips help some with keeping the gun from burying down in the hand as bad when shot double action with heavy kicking guns.

Nobody (factories) is going to reshape the frame behind the trigger guard with steel, it would not be practical weight wise (filling that area with steel vs wood or rubber etc) or changing forging dies when grips take care of it perfectly, and give more options for grips and more surface area around the edges for comfort rather than just the skinny frame filling the space.

Also truly surprised at some saying they wont buy or keep a gun because of the grips on it. Seriously? It takes 5 seconds to remove grips, then youre wide open on what to use, and can even cheat and keep the "pretty" grips on it for looking at, and the good grips for using. Sort of reminds me of people saying X gun wasnt as good as Y gun because the trigger pull on the ones (example of 1 each) was better. (thinking Winchester 94 vs Marlin in this specific comment) Trigger pulls are individual to each gun and fairly easily corrected and changed. Ignoring other attributes because of one insignificant detail seems a bit unwise.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

Malamute,

Good post. In the end, a lot of grief and effort can be avoided by buying a classic Roper grip in a user-friendly material by Frank Pachmayr. Although many folks refer to them as Goodyears, if you called them Firestones they would still be great grips - much better than Magna stocks. Stocks are for Revolutionary-era miscreants, anyway. Why mix them in with twentieth-cerntury handguns?

 

[one eye joe]

WHATEVER FLOATS YOUR BOAT, Malamute. THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG IN THIS......

ACCORDING TO YOU, Pachmayrs are "much better than magna stocks".....

YOU MIGHT HAVE BEGUN THAT STATEMENT WITH THE 4 LETTERS, "IMHO", INDICATING YOUR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT YOUR STATEMENT WAS MERELY YOUR HUMBLE OPINION, TO WHICH YOU ARE ENTITLED.....

MANY OF US HERE, PREFER THE LOOK AND FEEL, OF WOOD AND STEEL. I HAPPEN TO BE ONE OF THEM. WHILE I ADMIT TO BEING OVER 3/4 OF A CENTURY OLD, I DON'T VIEW MYSELF AS BEING A "Revolutionary-era miscreant".....

IMHO, PC-MAGNAS ARE THE PERFECT STOCKS, FOR A WEAPON THAT WILL BE CARRIED CONCEALED FOR SELF DEFENSE. I PREFER THE ADDITION OF A TYLER-T, GRIP ADAPTER---PURELY MY PERSONAL CHOICE. MY 2 1/2" M686+, IS PICTURED BELOW......

MY GO TO GRIPS ARE AHRENDS, SMOOTH, TACTICAL, CONVERSIONS--WHICH ADAPT SQUARE BUTT STOCKS, TO ROUND FRAME GUNS. I PREFER OIL FINISHED MORADILLO WOOD. EXAMPLES ARE ALSO PICTURED BELOW......

I DO FIND PACHMAYRS USEFUL, AND I HAVE A SET FOR K/L, AND FOR N FRAMES. I USE THEM WHEN CAMPING, HUNTING, AND FISHING IN EXTREMELY RUGGED TERRAIN, AND PROLONGED, INCLEMENT WEATHER.....

SO THAT'S WHAT WORKS FOR ME.....

 

[Etalksalot]

WHATEVER FLOATS YOUR BOAT, Malamute. THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG IN THIS......

ACCORDING TO YOU, Pachmayrs are "much better than magna stocks".....

YOU MIGHT HAVE BEGUN THAT STATEMENT WITH THE 4 LETTERS, "IMHO", INDICATING YOUR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT YOUR STATEMENT WAS MERELY YOUR HUMBLE OPINION, TO WHICH YOU ARE ENTITLED.....

MANY OF US HERE, PREFER THE LOOK AND FEEL, OF WOOD AND STEEL. I HAPPEN TO BE ONE OF THEM. WHILE I ADMIT TO BEING OVER 3/4 OF A CENTURY OLD, I DON'T VIEW MYSELF AS BEING A "Revolutionary-era miscreant".....

IMHO, PC-MAGNAS ARE THE PERFECT STOCKS, FOR A WEAPON THAT WILL BE CARRIED CONCEALED FOR SELF DEFENSE. I PREFER THE ADDITION OF A TYLER-T, GRIP ADAPTER---PURELY MY PERSONAL CHOICE. MY 2 1/2" M686+, IS PICTURED BELOW......

MY GO TO GRIPS ARE AHRENDS, SMOOTH, TACTICAL, CONVERSIONS--WHICH ADAPT SQUARE BUTT STOCKS, TO ROUND FRAME GUNS. I PREFER OIL FINISHED MORADILLO WOOD. EXAMPLES ARE ALSO PICTURED BELOW......

I DO FIND PACHMAYRS USEFUL, AND I HAVE A SET FOR K/L, AND FOR N FRAMES. I USE THEM WHEN CAMPING, HUNTING, AND FISHING IN EXTREMELY RUGGED TERRAIN, AND PROLONGED, INCLEMENT WEATHER.....

SO THAT'S WHAT WORKS FOR ME.....

Dude, I love that 686. I want one just like it with magna grips. I just saw 2 586 snubs for sale online, unfortunately one is over 2 grand currently on a bidding site and one is almost 4 grand on Guns International. Can't afford either, but I'd kill to have one, and I'd love to have magna grips on it. I love the look of 586/686 snubs, pre-lock days of course.

 

[Etalksalot]

Malamute,

Good post. In the end, a lot of grief and effort can be avoided by buying a classic Roper grip in a user-friendly material by Frank Pachmayr. Although many folks refer to them as Goodyears, if you called them Firestones they would still be great grips - much better than Magna stocks. Stocks are for Revolutionary-era miscreants, anyway. Why mix them in with twentieth-cerntury handguns?

Hey, I'm a proud miscreant!! I can't stand rubber grips. I just don't like them. They serve a purpose and they are immensely popular, but that in itself is one reason I don't like them. I tend to go the opposite direction from what's popular. Revolvers started out with grips like magna grips, even the six shooters from the 1800's had them, all the way up til the 80's or 90's when they started putting rubber grips on them at the factory. I personally like the sting and extra felt recoil, in my opinion that's what a guns is supposed to do, not cradle you to sleep. I think the magnas look a hell of a lot better too. They look classic, which is what I dig immensely. I love classic everything, and if I'm going to buy a gun from the 60's or 70's, I want it to look like it came from the 60's or 70's. If I was going to make it look like a more modern gun by adding Pachmayr grips, I'd just buy a new gun that already has rubber grips. I've never liked rubber grips ever. My dad had about 60 guns while I was growing up, and I've been shooting since I was about 5 or 6 and I used to make him put the wood grips back on because I didn't like the rubber ones. They just don't look right to me on an older gun. I feel they should be preserved exactly how they were meant to be, not mutilated and changed up. If you bought a killer old muscle car, would you completely rip out the inside, and modernize it with a navigation screen and modern technology?? You might, but I sure as heck would not. I would Awant it all original complete with wooden steering wheel. Now I'm about to say something that I'm sure is going to anger quite a few people, so keep in mind this is only my opinion, this is just how I feel and I don't expect anyone else to agree with me, in this day and age any little thing could "upset" someone and I wouldn't want to "hurt anyone's feelings" but I just feel wood grips, especially magnas are the more manly thing to do. Just like the video on YouTube of the guy with the beautiful snub Model 19 with magnas on it, he must've cried 10 or 11 times during the video about how it "hurts his hands." the guy looks like he's about 35ish,and it was so hard not to just tell him in the comment section to man up already. I know some people have arthritis and/or other issues, or guys who are much older than me and may need rubber grips, but outside of that, I laugh yo myself every time I see a guy with rubber grips on a revolver, especially large, oversized rubber grips like the S&W 500 grips on a Model 10,like wow dude, really?? A 38 doesn't kick that hard especially with a 4 inch heavy barrel. Now if anyone is still even reading this at this point instead of pounding out some hateful response, remember it's just my opinion, don't get excited, it's just how I feel. I know people use them to help aim and other things, but all that can be achieved with magna grips. I know, some people have large hands, so do I, I still use magnas. If a K frame with magnas is too small for someone's hands, they must have some BIG ol hands, Shaq size. Anyhow, if Smith & Wesson is going to sell the new Model 60 (regular version) with rubber grips, and the Lady Smith with magnas, give me magnas anytime. What does that say about the male population of this country?? Now again, keep in mind, this is MY opinion, but I'm not the one that works at Smith & Wesson and decided chicks could handle a J frame 357 with magna grips, but men should have the same 357 with soft rubber grips. I'm merely pointing out an observation I made. I have been wanting to write something up on this for a long time, but it wasn't until I saw that, that I decided to stop caring if some "feelings" were hurt and just write it, and even though I have tiptoed through the tulips with my wording in all my previous posts, including this one, making sure everyone knows it's just my thoughts, there have been people who have seemed mad at me for writing this. Also, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm any more or less of a man than anyone else, I'm just saying it seems manlier to do without rubber grips, and just take the recoil like a grown man should. I'm sure I'm going to get all kinds of hateful responses to this, but I'm tired of delicately insinuating what I mean, and just want to flat out say it. Heck, back in the 60's and 70's not nearly as many people would've gotten so feelings hurt over something as simple as this post. I wouldn't have had to over and over say, "now don't be upset, I'm not tryin to hurt your "feelings."" I mean I can't be the only guy out there who has had this thought run through his head a time or two right?? Doesn't anyone else get a kick out of the gun pounding your hands as it goes off over and over?? When I was 17, I sat and **** my dad's 637 over and over until the hammer spur dug a blister on the web of my thumb, and I enjoyed every minute of it. Now I am willing to admit, I am a bit out there mentally, I don't think all my eggs are in one basket, and though the light is on upstairs, doesn't mean anyone is home. I'm a bit of an oddball, but that's my favorite characteristic about myself. I run against the grain constantly, instead of with it. Funny part is, if everyone LOVED magna grips, I'd probably have nothing but rubbers on mine. I also just cannot get over the style. I'll post 4 pictures below, and the older guns are definitely the ones I love more because I love that era in more ways than one. Keep in mind I still own a VCR, 3 60's console record players, about 200 vinyl records one with an eight track player and quite a few eight tracks, an old console television (I do own 2 flat screen HD TV's as well) and and I'm looking for a large black rotary telephone as well. Right now on my television, I have an episode of Peter Gunn paused on my DVR as I type this out. So maybe I was born in the wrong decade, sue me. Incidentally enough, I don't Tyler T grips are unmanly, they look super cool. However, they are also a classic hold back from that time period, so that could be why I like them so much. One newer gun I really want to get is a Model 69 (5 shot 44 mag from S&W) because I love the thought of a K/L frame sized 44 mag, even if it's only 5 shots. However, the first thing I would do, even before I shoot it for the first time, would be to ditch the rubbers and throw on some magna grips, not only because I love how they feel, but it would help to make it look like a more old school gun. Again, this is just me, sometimes I need to be taken with a grain of salt, so again, please no one get offended, I'm not challenging anyone's manhood, or saying anyone isn't manly enough, or calling anyone soft, it's just me and my opinion.i hope that it is taken as such. Now........let the hate commenting commence.....

 

[Muley Gil]

"Stocks are for Revolutionary-era miscreants, anyway."

I do believe Model520Fan was referring to the "stocks" found next to 18th century gaols (jails), as in being punished in the pillory.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

Hey, I'm a proud miscreant!! I can't stand rubber grips. I just don't like them. They serve a purpose and they are immensely popular, but that in itself is one reason I don't like them. I tend to go the opposite direction from what's popular. Revolvers started out with grips like magna grips, even the six shooters from the 1800's had them, all the way up til the 80's or 90's when they started putting rubber grips on them at the factory. I personally like the sting and extra felt recoil, in my opinion that's what a guns is supposed to do, not cradle you to sleep. I think the magnas look a hell of a lot better too. They look classic, which is what I dig immensely. I love classic everything, and if I'm going to buy a gun from the 60's or 70's, I want it to look like it came from the 60's or 70's. If I was going to make it look like a more modern gun by adding Pachmayr grips, I'd just buy a new gun that already has rubber grips. I've never liked rubber grips ever. My dad had about 60 guns while I was growing up, and I've been shooting since I was about 5 or 6 and I used to make him put the wood grips back on because I didn't like the rubber ones. They just don't look right to me on an older gun. I feel they should be preserved exactly how they were meant to be, not mutilated and changed up. If you bought a killer old muscle car, would you completely rip out the inside, and modernize it with a navigation screen and modern technology?? You might, but I sure as heck would not. I would Awant it all original complete with wooden steering wheel. Now I'm about to say something that I'm sure is going to anger quite a few people, so keep in mind this is only my opinion, this is just how I feel and I don't expect anyone else to agree with me, in this day and age any little thing could "upset" someone and I wouldn't want to "hurt anyone's feelings" but I just feel wood grips, especially magnas are the more manly thing to do. Just like the video on YouTube of the guy with the beautiful snub Model 19 with magnas on it, he must've cried 10 or 11 times during the video about how it "hurts his hands." the guy looks like he's about 35ish,and it was so hard not to just tell him in the comment section to man up already. I know some people have arthritis and/or other issues, or guys who are much older than me and may need rubber grips, but outside of that, I laugh yo myself every time I see a guy with rubber grips on a revolver, especially large, oversized rubber grips like the S&W 500 grips on a Model 10,like wow dude, really?? A 38 doesn't kick that hard especially with a 4 inch heavy barrel. Now if anyone is still even reading this at this point instead of pounding out some hateful response, remember it's just my opinion, don't get excited, it's just how I feel. I know people use them to help aim and other things, but all that can be achieved with magna grips. I know, some people have large hands, so do I, I still use magnas. If a K frame with magnas is too small for someone's hands, they must have some BIG ol hands, Shaq size. Anyhow, if Smith & Wesson is going to sell the new Model 60 (regular version) with rubber grips, and the Lady Smith with magnas, give me magnas anytime. What does that say about the male population of this country?? Now again, keep in mind, this is MY opinion, but I'm not the one that works at Smith & Wesson and decided chicks could handle a J frame 357 with magna grips, but men should have the same 357 with soft rubber grips. I'm merely pointing out an observation I made. I have been wanting to write something up on this for a long time, but it wasn't until I saw that, that I decided to stop caring if some "feelings" were hurt and just write it, and even though I have tiptoed through the tulips with my wording in all my previous posts, including this one, making sure everyone knows it's just my thoughts, there have been people who have seemed mad at me for writing this. Also, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm any more or less of a man than anyone else, I'm just saying it seems manlier to do without rubber grips, and just take the recoil like a grown man should. I'm sure I'm going to get all kinds of hateful responses to this, but I'm tired of delicately insinuating what I mean, and just want to flat out say it. Heck, back in the 60's and 70's not nearly as many people would've gotten so feelings hurt over something as simple as this post. I wouldn't have had to over and over say, "now don't be upset, I'm not tryin to hurt your "feelings."" I mean I can't be the only guy out there who has had this thought run through his head a time or two right?? Doesn't anyone else get a kick out of the gun pounding your hands as it goes off over and over?? When I was 17, I sat and **** my dad's 637 over and over until the hammer spur dug a blister on the web of my thumb, and I enjoyed every minute of it. Now I am willing to admit, I am a bit out there mentally, I don't think all my eggs are in one basket, and though the light is on upstairs, doesn't mean anyone is home. I'm a bit of an oddball, but that's my favorite characteristic about myself. I run against the grain constantly, instead of with it. Funny part is, if everyone LOVED magna grips, I'd probably have nothing but rubbers on mine. I also just cannot get over the style. I'll post 4 pictures below, and the older guns are definitely the ones I love more because I love that era in more ways than one. Keep in mind I still own a VCR, 3 60's console record players, about 200 vinyl records one with an eight track player and quite a few eight tracks, an old console television (I do own 2 flat screen HD TV's as well) and and I'm looking for a large black rotary telephone as well. Right now on my television, I have an episode of Peter Gunn paused on my DVR as I type this out. So maybe I was born in the wrong decade, sue me. Incidentally enough, I don't Tyler T grips are unmanly, they look super cool. However, they are also a classic hold back from that time period, so that could be why I like them so much. One newer gun I really want to get is a Model 69 (5 shot 44 mag from S&W) because I love the thought of a K/L frame sized 44 mag, even if it's only 5 shots. However, the first thing I would do, even before I shoot it for the first time, would be to ditch the rubbers and throw on some magna grips, not only because I love how they feel, but it would help to make it look like a more old school gun. Again, this is just me, sometimes I need to be taken with a grain of salt, so again, please no one get offended, I'm not challenging anyone's manhood, or saying anyone isn't manly enough, or calling anyone soft, it's just me and my opinion.i hope that it is taken as such. Now........let the hate commenting commence.....

Guns are for shooting. My guns shoot better in my hands with Roper-design grips than with Magnas. Ropers don't come just in rubber by Pachmayr - they also come in wood by MANY manufacturers.

I think you wrote something above about old cars or something, but if I had a car that didn't drive right, I'd fix it. That's what folks are doing when they trash their Magnas. For many, it's a choice between a gun to shoot and a gun by which to remember the past. Either one is OK, but that's no reason to badmouth people who want to shoot - and that's what some people dump Magnas for, so their guns will shoot well.

 

[bigmtnman]

Fortunately.....I can make them to my specific "feel really good in my hand " size and shape. As you can see from the pics, I can also make them as ugly as I want

 

[Etalksalot]

Guns are for shooting. My guns shoot better in my hands with Roper-design grips than with Magnas. Ropers don't come just in rubber by Pachmayr - they also come in wood by MANY manufacturers.

I think you wrote something above about old cars or something, but if I had a car that didn't drive right, I'd fix it. That's what folks are doing when they trash their Magnas. For many, it's a choice between a gun to shoot and a gun by which to remember the past. Either one is OK, but that's no reason to badmouth people who want to shoot - and that's what some people dump Magnas for, so their guns will shoot well.

I explicitly said over and over I'm not bad mouthing anyone. I said again and again this is just how I feel. When I referred to the old car, I wasn't talking about it not working properly, I said that the person I was quoting, would they completely change the interior to look like a new car in say, a '70 Chevelle as an example, put nine a navigation screen and all types of modern conveniences, and then I said I would keep it original. Had nothing to do with the functions or performance of the car, just asked if he would modernize it. And I said all around wood is cool, no matter what kind of wood grips, but ESPECIALLY magnas, not exclusively magnas. Wood grips period I feel are the tougher, cooler route to travel. I had a feeling someone would get offended even though I said repeatedly, I'm not tryin to offend anyone, and it's ONLY MY OPINION. I would have more respect for someone who had stock target grips than after market rubbers. I mean I can only write so many times that it's just how I feel, and don't expect anyone to agree with me. I figured the whole point of a forum is to tell what you know, or what you feel/believe. If everyone is just going to agree with everyone, there's no debate. Debating is good. I never got rude or hateful and continuously said, don't get offended. That's how I feel, and if I can't say how I feel in a polite respectful manner, then I'm at the wrong forum. I won't just agree with the masses just because it's politically correct. I even tagged on myself multiple times. Not sure what else I can do.

 

[HARDWARE]

i like em fine. what i dont like is "custom" stocks.

i want em just how they came off the line. i wouldnt be opposed to adding some tyler t-grips here and there if theyd ever join the 21st century... or even the 20th..... money orders or checks?.. really.

 

[Etalksalot]

Fortunately.....I can make them to my specific "feel really good in my hand " size and shape. As you can see from the pics, I can also make them as ugly as I want

I like em!!

 

[Etalksalot]

i like em fine. what i dont like is "custom" stocks.

i want em just how they came off the line. i wouldnt be opposed to adding some tyler t-grips here and there if theyd ever join the 21st century... or even the 20th..... money orders or checks?.. really.

Being that I like old school things, it's "kinda" cool that they do it old school, however, the reason I don't own a T grip yet is because of that reason alone. If they took cards I'd have 3 of them right now. I don't really understand why they won't take cards, it's so weird. But I agree I love stock grips from the factory. If I had target grips, I'd want then to be from Smith & Wesson, not Hogue or something like that.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

I explicitly said over and over I'm not bad mouthing anyone. I said again and again this is just how I feel. When I referred to the old car, I wasn't talking about it not working properly, I said that the person I was quoting, would they completely change the interior to look like a new car in say, a '70 Chevelle as an example, put nine a navigation screen and all types of modern conveniences, and then I said I would keep it original. Had nothing to do with the functions or performance of the car, just asked if he would modernize it. And I said all around wood is cool, no matter what kind of wood grips, but ESPECIALLY magnas, not exclusively magnas. Wood grips period I feel are the tougher, cooler route to travel. I had a feeling someone would get offended even though I said repeatedly, I'm not tryin to offend anyone, and it's ONLY MY OPINION. I would have more respect for someone who had stock target grips than after market rubbers. I mean I can only write so many times that it's just how I feel, and don't expect anyone to agree with me. I figured the whole point of a forum is to tell what you know, or what you feel/believe. If everyone is just going to agree with everyone, there's no debate. Debating is good. I never got rude or hateful and continuously said, don't get offended. That's how I feel, and if I can't say how I feel in a polite respectful manner, then I'm at the wrong forum. I won't just agree with the masses just because it's politically correct. I even tagged on myself multiple times. Not sure what else I can do.

I know you weren't talking about the old car not working properly. That's why you shouldn't have brought it up at all. But since you chose to make the comparison, I ran with it. For many people, Magnas are no good because the gun doesn't work right with them installed, kind of like if a Jag XKE had a Jag factory-original milk crate installed where a seat is normally installed. It could be made to work, sort of, but the car deserves better. Jag, AFAIK, was never that stupid. S&W was, for years and years.

Pachmayr Presentations are a common manifestation of Roper design. They happen to be in rubber. Many other people make somewhat similar grips in wood. Hogue makes some very different designs in both rubber and wood. They are functional designs for many people.

If I am not mistaken, even you admit that Magnas don't work, that the gun moves in your hand, that you are very conscious of recoil. Welcome to the majority. I am simply pointing out that if a gun is for shooting, you are wrong in choosing Magnas. Of course, you may have a slightly different agenda, in which case you are probably right in choosing what you choose.

If you disagree with this, fine. Just remember that you are not the only who has a right to express his opinion; I do, too, and I just did.

BTW, none of this is intended to reflect on those folks, wherever you are, who actually find Magnas functional. I think that there are a few out there.

 

[reddog81]

So, to all the people that prefer target grips, how do you conceal them with concealed carry??? Or do you use a different gun? I'm sure some J and K frame guns with rubber grips aren't too hard to hide, but large wooden target grips would have to be.

In my opinion. Target grips are for shooting and magna's are for carrying. Magna's were common and popular for people buying revolvers to carry. I'm guessing most revolvers sold today are range toys or hunting guns. The larger grip is beneficial for these purposes.

Most people buying older revolvers are not buying the gun to carry it. They're buying it to be shot occasionally at the range or as part of a collection. The more rare target grips will be more sought out in this circumstance. It's not that people don't like the magna's it's just that the target grips are better suited for most purchases being made today.

Personally I prefer rubber on a gun I'm going to shoot much.

 

[trailmix]

If you like small grips, I'm happy for you. I have a large palm and long fingers, I do not care to hold the neck of a beer bottle and tell me that is a proper grip on my hand gun.

I have a storage tub full of identified small wood grips that were replaced with larger, finger groove Hogue rubber grips. I can control the revolver and the recoil is not as uncomfortable.

We should work out a trade, I have 2 sets of Hogue Monogrip rubber grips that I removed from guns that I recently purchased. The Hogue is my least favorite K frame grip but I do like the Bantams for J frames. Both are for square-butt K frames and are like new.

 

[one eye joe]

Dude, I love that 686. I want one just like it with magna grips. I just saw 2 586 snubs for sale online, unfortunately one is over 2 grand currently on a bidding site and one is almost 4 grand on Guns International. Can't afford either, but I'd kill to have one, and I'd love to have magna grips on it. I love the look of 586/686 snubs, pre-lock days of course.

THANKS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS, Etalksalot.......

I THINK THAT A SNUBBY M586, WEARING A NICELY FINISHED SET OF PC-MAGNAS, WHICH ARE SUPPLEMENTED WITH A SHINEY, BLACK, TYLER-T, WOULD MAKE A MOST ATTRACTIVE WEAPON, THAT YOU WOULD BE PROUD TO OWN.....

I HOPE THAT YOU GET TO REALIZE YOUR WISH......

 

[Etalksalot]

THANKS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS, Etalksalot.......

I THINK THAT A SNUBBY M586, WEARING A NICELY FINISHED SET OF PC-MAGNAS, WHICH ARE SUPPLEMENTED WITH A SHINEY, BLACK, TYLER-T, WOULD MAKE A MOST ATTRACTIVE WEAPON, THAT YOU WOULD BE PROUD TO OWN.....

I HOPE THAT YOU GET TO REALIZE YOUR WISH......

Thanks you! Me too, though that is now on my gun bucket list. I didn't know when I started to love the 586 snubs that there were only so many made. Being thats the case, it's gonna be on the list with a snub, blued model 19, and a snub, blued Diamondback. The blued Model 15 snub was on there, but I got that one! Only 4 more to go (except all the other guns I want that aren't on the list, but I still love!). Also, that does sound lovely. I am a big fan of the old school magnas a lot. Like a pair from a 70's RB Model 10 in great shape with a brass T grip would look killer too!

 

[Etalksalot]

In my opinion. Target grips are for shooting and magna's are for carrying. Magna's were common and popular for people buying revolvers to carry. I'm guessing most revolvers sold today are range toys or hunting guns. The larger grip is beneficial for these purposes.

Most people buying older revolvers are not buying the gun to carry it. They're buying it to be shot occasionally at the range or as part of a collection. The more rare target grips will be more sought out in this circumstance. It's not that people don't like the magna's it's just that the target grips are better suited for most purchases being made today.

Personally I prefer rubber on a gun I'm going to shoot much.

I hear ya, I'm one of the ones who wants the old school guns for CC purposes. I know I'm in the minority, but I love shooting with the magnas at the range. I guess I figured that of that is what smith put in the guns when they sold it, that's what should be on it. It also makes them easier to conceal. My Taurus 605 when I first got it I had a set of Pachmayr grips, and they looked cool, but it bulged too much. Once I put in magna style grips, you can't even tell it's in my waistband or in my pocket, it just disappears. The main reason I wrote this article is because I'm just surprised at how many people don't find them to be just awesome. I guess when I started getting into the older guns, I just assumed most people would like them and I was surprised to find how wrong I was. However, as Frankie says, "that's life!"

 

[Etalksalot]

I know you weren't talking about the old car not working properly. That's why you shouldn't have brought it up at all. But since you chose to make the comparison, I ran with it. For many people, Magnas are no good because the gun doesn't work right with them installed, kind of like if a Jag XKE had a Jag factory-original milk crate installed where a seat is normally installed. It could be made to work, sort of, but the car deserves better. Jag, AFAIK, was never that stupid. S&W was, for years and years.

Pachmayr Presentations are a common manifestation of Roper design. They happen to be in rubber. Many other people make somewhat similar grips in wood. Hogue makes some very different designs in both rubber and wood. They are functional designs for many people.

If I am not mistaken, even you admit that Magnas don't work, that the gun moves in your hand, that you are very conscious of recoil. Welcome to the majority. I am simply pointing out that if a gun is for shooting, you are wrong in choosing Magnas. Of course, you may have a slightly different agenda, in which case you are probably right in choosing what you choose.

If you disagree with this, fine. Just remember that you are not the only who has a right to express his opinion; I do, too, and I just did.

BTW, none of this is intended to reflect on those folks, wherever you are, who actually find Magnas functional. I think that there are a few out there.

I hear ya, and I appreciate people expressing their opinions, that's why I wrote this post because I wanted to hear what people have to say.

On the contrary, I think magnas are the best grips possible for a gun. I absolutely love them, and every revolver I own has them except my stupid Taurus 617 because it has some goofy compact frame and it won't let you put them on. I think shooting with magnas is excellent too. My 605 (5 shot, J frame sized 357) is a blast to shoot with magna type grips. I was popping off 180gr Buffalo Bore flat nose lead slugs for over an hour at the range the last time I went. Once I ran out, and only had target 357 rounds, it sucked. They were much weaker. I carry with magnas and I shoot with them. In fact, nothing else will ever go on a gun of mine that is 4 inches or shorter in the barrel, don't care if it's a J, K, L or an N frame. Even when the day comes that I get a model 29, regardless if it's a 4 inch or the shorter version (not sure how long that one is, 3" maybe?) it will carry magnas. I would only keep the target grips if they are original to the gun, but even the they will be wrapped up in a box and not used. I'm gonna add pictures of my carry guns. I was shooting 44 mags by the time I was 10 yrs old, and I always love when guns beat up your hands because I can feel the power of it. Sounds weird I'm sure, but that's me. I'm thinking about a Model 69 (5 shot 44 mag, L frame I think) and I'd put magnas on that sucker too!

The second and third pictures are my Taurus 605. I threw my 6 shooter in because that's another reason I love magnas because they remind me of the old 6 shooter grips in a way, smaller, but still wooden panel grips.

To be honest too, I am buying these old guns because I love carrying an old school gun. It feels great when everyone after work is showing off their Glocks, and other newer guns, and I bust out my blued or nickel 36 no dash, people trip. They all stop and focus on that gun and ooo and aaawww about how beautiful it is. I feel that if I put new grips on it, it drastically takes away from that classic look, especially if I put rubber grips on them, and if I'm gonna do that I might as well just go buy a new gun. I buy a classic to carry it as a classic. Now I will say that round butt J frames are a little too small (though the 605 I have should be the same size and feels fine in my hands) and this is why I got square butts. That little extra gives you a lot more to hold onto. They fit my hands like a glove, whereas the RB J frame magnas fit my hands like an OJ glove.

 

[Etalksalot]

This picture is my dad's 637 with my Pachmayr grips. I gave them to him once I got my magna grips for the 605. He has arthritis in his hands bad so he prefers them. When the day comes that I inherit it, it will be donning magnas as well.

I know it sounds weird that I like the excessive kick on a gun, but this 637 originally had the 2 finger Grove rubber grips and back when I was about 16 I shot thus gun so much one day that it put a huge blister on the web of my thumb and I still just couldn't stop shooting it. Don't ask me why, but it didn't bother me at all. I must've put 100+ rounds through it that day. Because it is an Airweight, it kicked harder. Weird though, that though I like the excessive kick, I don't care for Airweight Smiths and Ultralite Taurus guns. It's not because of the excessive kick however that I don't like them. I don't care for them because it feels weird to have a gun that isn't full weight. Almost makes it feel like a toy to me. Especially the K frame guns. Although I will end up buying a couple Airweight guns, but I just think it feels weird. I love heavy guns just because I like that heavy feel, especially with an old gun.