Why so much hate towards the magnas???

[Etalksalot]

Fortunately.....I can make them to my specific "feel really good in my hand " size and shape. As you can see from the pics, I can also make them as ugly as I want

I like em!!

 

[Etalksalot]

i like em fine. what i dont like is "custom" stocks.

i want em just how they came off the line. i wouldnt be opposed to adding some tyler t-grips here and there if theyd ever join the 21st century... or even the 20th..... money orders or checks?.. really.

Being that I like old school things, it's "kinda" cool that they do it old school, however, the reason I don't own a T grip yet is because of that reason alone. If they took cards I'd have 3 of them right now. I don't really understand why they won't take cards, it's so weird. But I agree I love stock grips from the factory. If I had target grips, I'd want then to be from Smith & Wesson, not Hogue or something like that.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

I explicitly said over and over I'm not bad mouthing anyone. I said again and again this is just how I feel. When I referred to the old car, I wasn't talking about it not working properly, I said that the person I was quoting, would they completely change the interior to look like a new car in say, a '70 Chevelle as an example, put nine a navigation screen and all types of modern conveniences, and then I said I would keep it original. Had nothing to do with the functions or performance of the car, just asked if he would modernize it. And I said all around wood is cool, no matter what kind of wood grips, but ESPECIALLY magnas, not exclusively magnas. Wood grips period I feel are the tougher, cooler route to travel. I had a feeling someone would get offended even though I said repeatedly, I'm not tryin to offend anyone, and it's ONLY MY OPINION. I would have more respect for someone who had stock target grips than after market rubbers. I mean I can only write so many times that it's just how I feel, and don't expect anyone to agree with me. I figured the whole point of a forum is to tell what you know, or what you feel/believe. If everyone is just going to agree with everyone, there's no debate. Debating is good. I never got rude or hateful and continuously said, don't get offended. That's how I feel, and if I can't say how I feel in a polite respectful manner, then I'm at the wrong forum. I won't just agree with the masses just because it's politically correct. I even tagged on myself multiple times. Not sure what else I can do.

I know you weren't talking about the old car not working properly. That's why you shouldn't have brought it up at all. But since you chose to make the comparison, I ran with it. For many people, Magnas are no good because the gun doesn't work right with them installed, kind of like if a Jag XKE had a Jag factory-original milk crate installed where a seat is normally installed. It could be made to work, sort of, but the car deserves better. Jag, AFAIK, was never that stupid. S&W was, for years and years.

Pachmayr Presentations are a common manifestation of Roper design. They happen to be in rubber. Many other people make somewhat similar grips in wood. Hogue makes some very different designs in both rubber and wood. They are functional designs for many people.

If I am not mistaken, even you admit that Magnas don't work, that the gun moves in your hand, that you are very conscious of recoil. Welcome to the majority. I am simply pointing out that if a gun is for shooting, you are wrong in choosing Magnas. Of course, you may have a slightly different agenda, in which case you are probably right in choosing what you choose.

If you disagree with this, fine. Just remember that you are not the only who has a right to express his opinion; I do, too, and I just did.

BTW, none of this is intended to reflect on those folks, wherever you are, who actually find Magnas functional. I think that there are a few out there.

 

[reddog81]

So, to all the people that prefer target grips, how do you conceal them with concealed carry??? Or do you use a different gun? I'm sure some J and K frame guns with rubber grips aren't too hard to hide, but large wooden target grips would have to be.

In my opinion. Target grips are for shooting and magna's are for carrying. Magna's were common and popular for people buying revolvers to carry. I'm guessing most revolvers sold today are range toys or hunting guns. The larger grip is beneficial for these purposes.

Most people buying older revolvers are not buying the gun to carry it. They're buying it to be shot occasionally at the range or as part of a collection. The more rare target grips will be more sought out in this circumstance. It's not that people don't like the magna's it's just that the target grips are better suited for most purchases being made today.

Personally I prefer rubber on a gun I'm going to shoot much.

 

[trailmix]

If you like small grips, I'm happy for you. I have a large palm and long fingers, I do not care to hold the neck of a beer bottle and tell me that is a proper grip on my hand gun.

I have a storage tub full of identified small wood grips that were replaced with larger, finger groove Hogue rubber grips. I can control the revolver and the recoil is not as uncomfortable.

We should work out a trade, I have 2 sets of Hogue Monogrip rubber grips that I removed from guns that I recently purchased. The Hogue is my least favorite K frame grip but I do like the Bantams for J frames. Both are for square-butt K frames and are like new.

 

[one eye joe]

Dude, I love that 686. I want one just like it with magna grips. I just saw 2 586 snubs for sale online, unfortunately one is over 2 grand currently on a bidding site and one is almost 4 grand on Guns International. Can't afford either, but I'd kill to have one, and I'd love to have magna grips on it. I love the look of 586/686 snubs, pre-lock days of course.

THANKS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS, Etalksalot.......

I THINK THAT A SNUBBY M586, WEARING A NICELY FINISHED SET OF PC-MAGNAS, WHICH ARE SUPPLEMENTED WITH A SHINEY, BLACK, TYLER-T, WOULD MAKE A MOST ATTRACTIVE WEAPON, THAT YOU WOULD BE PROUD TO OWN.....

I HOPE THAT YOU GET TO REALIZE YOUR WISH......

 

[Etalksalot]

THANKS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS, Etalksalot.......

I THINK THAT A SNUBBY M586, WEARING A NICELY FINISHED SET OF PC-MAGNAS, WHICH ARE SUPPLEMENTED WITH A SHINEY, BLACK, TYLER-T, WOULD MAKE A MOST ATTRACTIVE WEAPON, THAT YOU WOULD BE PROUD TO OWN.....

I HOPE THAT YOU GET TO REALIZE YOUR WISH......

Thanks you! Me too, though that is now on my gun bucket list. I didn't know when I started to love the 586 snubs that there were only so many made. Being thats the case, it's gonna be on the list with a snub, blued model 19, and a snub, blued Diamondback. The blued Model 15 snub was on there, but I got that one! Only 4 more to go (except all the other guns I want that aren't on the list, but I still love!). Also, that does sound lovely. I am a big fan of the old school magnas a lot. Like a pair from a 70's RB Model 10 in great shape with a brass T grip would look killer too!

 

[Etalksalot]

In my opinion. Target grips are for shooting and magna's are for carrying. Magna's were common and popular for people buying revolvers to carry. I'm guessing most revolvers sold today are range toys or hunting guns. The larger grip is beneficial for these purposes.

Most people buying older revolvers are not buying the gun to carry it. They're buying it to be shot occasionally at the range or as part of a collection. The more rare target grips will be more sought out in this circumstance. It's not that people don't like the magna's it's just that the target grips are better suited for most purchases being made today.

Personally I prefer rubber on a gun I'm going to shoot much.

I hear ya, I'm one of the ones who wants the old school guns for CC purposes. I know I'm in the minority, but I love shooting with the magnas at the range. I guess I figured that of that is what smith put in the guns when they sold it, that's what should be on it. It also makes them easier to conceal. My Taurus 605 when I first got it I had a set of Pachmayr grips, and they looked cool, but it bulged too much. Once I put in magna style grips, you can't even tell it's in my waistband or in my pocket, it just disappears. The main reason I wrote this article is because I'm just surprised at how many people don't find them to be just awesome. I guess when I started getting into the older guns, I just assumed most people would like them and I was surprised to find how wrong I was. However, as Frankie says, "that's life!"

 

[Etalksalot]

I know you weren't talking about the old car not working properly. That's why you shouldn't have brought it up at all. But since you chose to make the comparison, I ran with it. For many people, Magnas are no good because the gun doesn't work right with them installed, kind of like if a Jag XKE had a Jag factory-original milk crate installed where a seat is normally installed. It could be made to work, sort of, but the car deserves better. Jag, AFAIK, was never that stupid. S&W was, for years and years.

Pachmayr Presentations are a common manifestation of Roper design. They happen to be in rubber. Many other people make somewhat similar grips in wood. Hogue makes some very different designs in both rubber and wood. They are functional designs for many people.

If I am not mistaken, even you admit that Magnas don't work, that the gun moves in your hand, that you are very conscious of recoil. Welcome to the majority. I am simply pointing out that if a gun is for shooting, you are wrong in choosing Magnas. Of course, you may have a slightly different agenda, in which case you are probably right in choosing what you choose.

If you disagree with this, fine. Just remember that you are not the only who has a right to express his opinion; I do, too, and I just did.

BTW, none of this is intended to reflect on those folks, wherever you are, who actually find Magnas functional. I think that there are a few out there.

I hear ya, and I appreciate people expressing their opinions, that's why I wrote this post because I wanted to hear what people have to say.

On the contrary, I think magnas are the best grips possible for a gun. I absolutely love them, and every revolver I own has them except my stupid Taurus 617 because it has some goofy compact frame and it won't let you put them on. I think shooting with magnas is excellent too. My 605 (5 shot, J frame sized 357) is a blast to shoot with magna type grips. I was popping off 180gr Buffalo Bore flat nose lead slugs for over an hour at the range the last time I went. Once I ran out, and only had target 357 rounds, it sucked. They were much weaker. I carry with magnas and I shoot with them. In fact, nothing else will ever go on a gun of mine that is 4 inches or shorter in the barrel, don't care if it's a J, K, L or an N frame. Even when the day comes that I get a model 29, regardless if it's a 4 inch or the shorter version (not sure how long that one is, 3" maybe?) it will carry magnas. I would only keep the target grips if they are original to the gun, but even the they will be wrapped up in a box and not used. I'm gonna add pictures of my carry guns. I was shooting 44 mags by the time I was 10 yrs old, and I always love when guns beat up your hands because I can feel the power of it. Sounds weird I'm sure, but that's me. I'm thinking about a Model 69 (5 shot 44 mag, L frame I think) and I'd put magnas on that sucker too!

The second and third pictures are my Taurus 605. I threw my 6 shooter in because that's another reason I love magnas because they remind me of the old 6 shooter grips in a way, smaller, but still wooden panel grips.

To be honest too, I am buying these old guns because I love carrying an old school gun. It feels great when everyone after work is showing off their Glocks, and other newer guns, and I bust out my blued or nickel 36 no dash, people trip. They all stop and focus on that gun and ooo and aaawww about how beautiful it is. I feel that if I put new grips on it, it drastically takes away from that classic look, especially if I put rubber grips on them, and if I'm gonna do that I might as well just go buy a new gun. I buy a classic to carry it as a classic. Now I will say that round butt J frames are a little too small (though the 605 I have should be the same size and feels fine in my hands) and this is why I got square butts. That little extra gives you a lot more to hold onto. They fit my hands like a glove, whereas the RB J frame magnas fit my hands like an OJ glove.

 

[Etalksalot]

This picture is my dad's 637 with my Pachmayr grips. I gave them to him once I got my magna grips for the 605. He has arthritis in his hands bad so he prefers them. When the day comes that I inherit it, it will be donning magnas as well.

I know it sounds weird that I like the excessive kick on a gun, but this 637 originally had the 2 finger Grove rubber grips and back when I was about 16 I shot thus gun so much one day that it put a huge blister on the web of my thumb and I still just couldn't stop shooting it. Don't ask me why, but it didn't bother me at all. I must've put 100+ rounds through it that day. Because it is an Airweight, it kicked harder. Weird though, that though I like the excessive kick, I don't care for Airweight Smiths and Ultralite Taurus guns. It's not because of the excessive kick however that I don't like them. I don't care for them because it feels weird to have a gun that isn't full weight. Almost makes it feel like a toy to me. Especially the K frame guns. Although I will end up buying a couple Airweight guns, but I just think it feels weird. I love heavy guns just because I like that heavy feel, especially with an old gun.

 

[Etalksalot]

Here's an example of what I mean. How in the world could someone do THAT to a beautiful model 19????

 

[Etalksalot]

I did just find a picture of a gun I have come to love recently, unfortunately a hard one to find and pricy if lucky enough to find. It is the snub 586. I couldn't find a picture of it with magna grips until today. It comes with round butt combat grips with finger groves. I don't like this particular set of magnas though because it's the newer style, I'd love to see it with old school 70's RB magnas, but this is the best I've seen so far. I like it with the grips it comes with as well. It's one of the few non magnas that I actually like, but this thing looks amazing. I do, however have a picture of a snub 686 with the right kind of magnas and though I don't like stainless guns, this is beautiful!! I know I'm partial to magnas, but seriously these things look like a work of art. I just wanna see the grips from the 686 on the 586, that would be awesome.