Winchester 1892 by Miroku on the way

[PALADIN85020]

I own two modern '92s. The Rossi in .357 is just about perfect. Manageable recoil, and the .357 magnum in a rifle tube has almost as much effect on the target as a .30-30, which kicks way too much for me in a '94 carbine.

While the Browning '92 is well made in Japan, when stoked with .44 magnums, the recoil is BRUTAL. It was all I could do to fire a magazine-full for sighting-in purposes, and my shoulder hurt for a month afterwards. With .44 specials, it's a sweetheart, and I no longer use the maggies in it. I just refuse to be a masochist.

John

 

[Daimler1989]

Hi,

I'm impressed with the wave of information and advice I get here on the forum. Thank you all, that's great. And thanks for showing the photographs of your guns, always

Good to learn, that I should use the .44 Special in this rifle. It's one of my favorite cartridges, I reload them for my S&W 624 4", and I have plenty of different bullets to try, not to mention the large box of cases for reloading. So far, my favorite loads were 7.8 grs of Vectan Ba9 with a 200 SWC coated lead bullet and 7 gr of VV N340 with a 215 LSWC. I used 9.5 gr of Vectan A0 with a 200 LSWC, which is not short of a magnum load with about 1130 ft/s out of the 4" barrel... This makes me even more excited to have the 1892 at home.

BTW it's the Short Rifle version I ordered. Will take a few days for my local police authority to complete the background check. I hope to get the gun in about one week.

regards from Germany
Ulrich

 

[SLT223]

Ill say there is definitely a difference in felt recoil between the cresent stock and shotgun stock, and also what you are wearing when it comes to the cresent stock. That little point at the bottom will definitely produce a bruise where it contacts the body, and that contact is inevitable for me due to the small size of the cresent butt plate. It's less of an issue in winter when wearing a jacket. I also load for 44 Mag and mitigate the issue with powder selection and charge weight. Pretty much anything fast and medium burn with 200 to 240gr bullets will keep me comfortable. The only slow powder Ive used in it that doesn't produce the abrupt slam of 110/296 is IMR4227. Still wouldn't want to shoot those with only a t-shirt.

 

[Charlie Foxtrott]

I have one in .45 Colt.

A great little rifle. And I shoot a really hot load out of mine A 300 grain Hornady TSX on top of 20 grains of Winchester 296. Quite accurate. And recoil is fairly tame.

 

[richcory]

OP,

You will really like it. I ordered mine over a year ago. 1892 Deluxe 44 Magnum with 24" octagon barrel. With magnum loads it's very soft shooting.

Cory

 

[WildBillWJW]

Love the six gun carbine same caliber combos

Here's one of my fav's...two Colts, one Winchester 94, one caliber! Also big fan of ivory and stag grips, as you can tell.

 

[glenncal1]

I have a Miroku .38 Special revolver from the late 1960s (I think). Excellent workmanship and finish, but a little odd-looking to Western eyes.

Looks kind of like a Colt in the Official Police style.

 

[357p239]

For max reliability use magnum brass

The rifle may cycle .44 Special cartridges successfully, but I recommend using .44 Magnum brass in your reloading. The brass is easier to find and cheaper (usually). Use a mid speed powder like Herco. I've never loaded with Trailboss but it should be ideal for lighter, low recoil loads.

 

[RobertJ.]

It can be surprising how much recoil they have with a handgun cartridge.

No kidding!

I have a Marlin 1894, and maybe I'm just getting old, but it's not nearly as pleasant to shoot as it was when I was younger. I shoot a 200 gr. cast flat point at a reduced velocity most of the time, and I can shoot that all day long.

 

[Jimi 0071]

I had both 92 models 357 and 44. They are well made! Once you get use to the curved butt plate the recoil isn't bad. Enjoy your rifle.

 

[Dilligaff]

Handgun and Rifle same caliber

I bough my S&W model 57 in 1964,less than 30 minutes after it arrived at the store. A couple decades or more ago I bought my Marlin 1894S also in 41 Mag. I reload, so what a wonderful pair. I have enjoyed them above all my other firearms.

 

[AJ]

The rifle may cycle .44 Special cartridges successfully, but I recommend using .44 Magnum brass in your reloading. The brass is easier to find and cheaper (usually). Use a mid speed powder like Herco. I've never loaded with Trailboss but it should be ideal for lighter, low recoil loads.

,44 Magnum cases are much easier to come by that finding .44 Special cases.
I shot both .44 revolvers and a Marlin 1894 for a lot of years. Rarely did I shoot a .44 Magnum load in the Magnum cases. No sense beating up the guns if you don't have to...........

 

[Ed Fowler]

The barrel on my 44 mag 92 heats up quick and "accuracy" falls off. Let it cool between shots and your sights will not be hampered by the heat waves. It will shoot very nice groups after you do your homework finding a load it likes. Good luck!!

 

[Daimler1989]

Hi,

here it is. Winchster 1892 Short Rifle .44 Magnum

got it on tuesday, took it to the range yesterday. Very nice shooting and handling little rifle. Accuracy at 50 meters was not what I expected, but this might be a problem with .44 Special loads. I only had a handful of .44 Magnum handloads which were more in the lower performance range - 180 gr XTP and 200 gr LFN, and accuracy was quite ok. Each handload of .44 Special was more or less all over the place, no matter which bullet, but did not try 180 gr XTP. Feeding SWC is ok, some chambering issues with the first cartridge, but no accuracy at all. Slightly better with LFN, but not satisfying at all. I suspect that there is too much travel with .44 Special cases. Next step is purchase of .44 Magnum cases and doing some XTP and LFN midrange handloads. But I guess that the best accuracy will be reached with jacketed or plated bullets.

best regards
Ulrich

 

[Fishinfool]

Ulrich - Nice rifle. I had one of the original Browning versions of the 92, and it was very well made and accurate. Try a 240 grain SWC in a .44 mag case with 6.5 grains of Red Dot powder, standard primer. About 950 fps. That was an accurate load in my 92, as well as several Marlin 1894's. If you have feeding issues, a RNFP might work better. I did notice my B-92 was a little less sensitive to bullet shape and COAL than my Marlins.

Also, aperture (peep) sights can make a big difference in accuracy compared to the buckhorn sights they come with. I believe Skinner, as well as a few others make them for the 92. There are tang mounted peep sights available as well, though I personally prefer receiver or bolt mounted versions.

Larry

 

[scooter123]

I have a 1904 Vintage 1892 that a previous owner had converted to 357 Magnum and re-finished, probably back in the 1960's when Winchester still offered this kind of service. As a result I have a very pretty shooter. Accuracy is excellent, I've shot many sub 1 inch groups at 100 yards using a rear tang peep sight. About the only downside is the crescent butt plate, with full power 357 Magnums putting 50 rounds downrange can get rather painful. At times I have considered shopping for a shotgun style stock. BTW, I shoot a LOT of Skeet and Trap, last weekend was 300 rounds of 12 and 20 gage, so I am quite certain that would make my 1892 a much more comfortable shooter.

Tip. Marbles still makes a rear tang sight for the 1892 and they are a great aid in shooting with some accuracy. BTW, I have left the standard buckhorn sight on my rifle, so shooting is sort of a triple sight affair. For me that has worked very well because it insures that you have your eye placed in exactly the right spot.

 

[Richard Simmons]

Can't speak to the 1892 in particular but I have a NIB Miroku produced 1895 takedown in 30.06 with case colored receiver and the fit and finish is superb! Any company can put out a lemon on occasion but overall I think Miroku does and excellent job on the firearms they produce.

 

[Jerry in SC]

Ulrich - Nice rifle. I had one of the original Browning versions of the 92, and it was very well made and accurate. Try a 240 grain SWC in a .44 mag case with 6.5 grains of Red Dot powder, standard primer. About 950 fps. That was an accurate load in my 92, as well as several Marlin 1894's. If you have feeding issues, a RNFP might work better. I did notice my B-92 was a little less sensitive to bullet shape and COAL than my Marlins.

Also, aperture (peep) sights can make a big difference in accuracy compared to the buckhorn sights they come with. I believe Skinner, as well as a few others make them for the 92. There are tang mounted peep sights available as well, though I personally prefer receiver or bolt mounted versions.

Larry

I had one of the original Brownings as well. I used the old Norma Carbine load, it was a handful but dropped a couple of nice whitetails, a few hogs.

My favorite of the Brownings was the 218 Bee Model 65.