Excellent flick. Wyoming. Snow. A murder. A hunter in pursuit of the murderer. Low key, but suspenseful. Atmospheric. Adult.
Really good. (I rented off Amazon and streamed it.)
Really good. (I rented off Amazon and streamed it.)
Wind River
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Ivan the Butcher
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The wife and I saw it at a matinee a while ago (maybe 6 weeks). The wife enjoyed it. I loved it! Only in my opinion; The star of the movie is a Stainless Guide Gun (there is also one well done reloading bench scene) and an honorable mention of a Ruger Super Blackhawk (used left handed!)
It is not the "Feel good movie of the year", but you walk away satisfied. Loosely base on true events. The scenery is breath taking! The characters are interesting and have depth, with some familiar faces.
Not a movie for those with delicate sensibilities! Some very nasty scenes!!!
Ivan
It is not the "Feel good movie of the year", but you walk away satisfied. Loosely base on true events. The scenery is breath taking! The characters are interesting and have depth, with some familiar faces.
Not a movie for those with delicate sensibilities! Some very nasty scenes!!!
Ivan
Ivan the Butcher
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I just wanted to add;
A friend of mine was a projectionist at a small town movie theater while in H.S. and collage (in the later 60's). He says a great movie takes between 25 and 30 times of viewing it, to pick up all the small nuances. Wind River may not be that "Great", but this movie has a great deal to glean from multiple viewings.
Ivan
A friend of mine was a projectionist at a small town movie theater while in H.S. and collage (in the later 60's). He says a great movie takes between 25 and 30 times of viewing it, to pick up all the small nuances. Wind River may not be that "Great", but this movie has a great deal to glean from multiple viewings.
Ivan
THE PILGRIM
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Would also like to hear sig220’s comments.
Watch a movie 25-30 Times!
That’s a lot!
Not sure if I ever saw any movie that many times.
Will watch this one, probably also stream it.
Watch a movie 25-30 Times!
That’s a lot!
Not sure if I ever saw any movie that many times.
Will watch this one, probably also stream it.
It was an interesting movie with a few problems like all. I feel it is a robbery of a character that author C.J. Box writes about in his mysteries. Both game wardens in Wyoming who get involved in murders. I was kinda skeptical about his choice of a 45-70 in Wyoming. Ninety percent of Wyoming is flat plains with high winds. Not ideal conditions for that old soldiers cartridge. If you think I am opposed to the old lead slinger, I have 3 upstairs. Good casting of characters.
Texas Star
US Veteran
Who's in it?
I do like C.J. Box's Joe Pickett, who evidently inspired this film. ??
I do like C.J. Box's Joe Pickett, who evidently inspired this film. ??
sigp220.45
US Veteran
I avoided it. Its probably a good movie, but I know enough from the trailer that I’d just get frustrated.
Unless the protagonists are an underpaid tribal cop and a local FBI agent who have worked a ton of cases together working on a murder that no one in the Bureau except the case agent cares about, I’ll pass.
I take it from the trailer the heroes are a plucky female agent from somewhere other than the Resident Agency responsible for Wind River who doesn’t own warm clothes, and an enigmatic Fish and Wildlife hunter with no jurisdiction to either be on the rez or investigate murders.
I know the victim is a young native woman. Having investigated more than my share of murders of young native women, I suspect in this movie the murderer is not a young native boyfriend, husband, father, uncle, creepy neighbor, or other young native woman.
I’ll probably watch it eventually. I’m sure it is more entertaining than my reality.
Unless the protagonists are an underpaid tribal cop and a local FBI agent who have worked a ton of cases together working on a murder that no one in the Bureau except the case agent cares about, I’ll pass.
I take it from the trailer the heroes are a plucky female agent from somewhere other than the Resident Agency responsible for Wind River who doesn’t own warm clothes, and an enigmatic Fish and Wildlife hunter with no jurisdiction to either be on the rez or investigate murders.
I know the victim is a young native woman. Having investigated more than my share of murders of young native women, I suspect in this movie the murderer is not a young native boyfriend, husband, father, uncle, creepy neighbor, or other young native woman.
I’ll probably watch it eventually. I’m sure it is more entertaining than my reality.
sigp220.45 , that is exactly why I would very much appreciate your take on the movie. I thought it was good, but have no sense of reality of what you and your fellow professionals dealt with on a daily basis in that area. My very brief time in LE was a metro dept with plenty of backup . As always, thanks for your years of service. All my very best, Joe.
vigil617
US Veteran
Scorpion520Az started a good thread on it back in August when it was new in theaters. Glad some more of you have had a chance to see it now.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/lounge/532017-wind-river.html?532017=#post139716248
http://smith-wessonforum.com/lounge/532017-wind-river.html?532017=#post139716248
OP
I don’t think it is a rip off of CJ Box’s Joe Pickett character. The men are too different.
It’s been a while, but as I recall Joe Pickett is a fairly cheerful guy, happily married to a white woman, with a daughter or two. He is not into guns at all, and is a poor shot with his Glock.
The guy in Wind River is.... well, I don’t want to ruin the plot for anyone, but he is very different, in his circumstances and his personality. I’ll say he is unhappy, and good with guns...
It’s been a while, but as I recall Joe Pickett is a fairly cheerful guy, happily married to a white woman, with a daughter or two. He is not into guns at all, and is a poor shot with his Glock.
The guy in Wind River is.... well, I don’t want to ruin the plot for anyone, but he is very different, in his circumstances and his personality. I’ll say he is unhappy, and good with guns...
UncleEd
Member
It bears repeating that the writer/director Taylor Sheridan
is also the writer for Sicario and Hell or High Water, both
excellent films.
As to Jeremy Renner's weapons, in the beginning he
has a rifle to take down wolves but uses the Marlin
while in the mountain country. He also carries a
Ruger Super Blackhawk.
is also the writer for Sicario and Hell or High Water, both
excellent films.
As to Jeremy Renner's weapons, in the beginning he
has a rifle to take down wolves but uses the Marlin
while in the mountain country. He also carries a
Ruger Super Blackhawk.
sigp220.45
US Veteran
To be fair, I watched the trailer again.
The title card says "Most murders are never solved. Most murderers are never caught....."
I worked about 60 murders in 17 years on the rez. I solved them all.
I'm not talking about DUI manslaughters where the driver is wedged behind the wheel. Real murders that start with a dead body and nobody in custody.
Somehow the idea that murders go unsolved on the rez has taken hold. There are a lot of deaths on the rez - suicides and exposures and alcohol related drop-overs. We investigate those, but the families always want them to be murders.
The title card says "Most murders are never solved. Most murderers are never caught....."
I worked about 60 murders in 17 years on the rez. I solved them all.
I'm not talking about DUI manslaughters where the driver is wedged behind the wheel. Real murders that start with a dead body and nobody in custody.
Somehow the idea that murders go unsolved on the rez has taken hold. There are a lot of deaths on the rez - suicides and exposures and alcohol related drop-overs. We investigate those, but the families always want them to be murders.
OP
That is truly impressive, Sig. Sixty murders and all solved. Quite a record.
At the end of the movie, these words appear on the screen: “While missing person statistics are compiled for every other demographic, none exist for Native American Women. No one knows how many are missing.”
What say you?
At the end of the movie, these words appear on the screen: “While missing person statistics are compiled for every other demographic, none exist for Native American Women. No one knows how many are missing.”
What say you?
fat tom
Absent Comrade
Well then,I guess the only great movie I've ever seen is "The Outlaw Josey Wales."
f.t.
sigp220.45
US Veteran
I'd say I doubt there are statistics for every other demographic, and if there are then I believe Native Americans would be represented as well. "Missing" is a tough statistic - if you are an adult, you are allowed to be missing.
There are precious few other demographics for which the entire weight of the federal government is brought to bear when a person is killed or goes missing, as is the case for Native Americans. I had all the resources available of the FBI available for my cases. There is an Indian Crimes Unit at the FBI lab that put our cases to the front of the line for DNA, fingerprints, trace analysis, or whatever I wanted. If I wanted a plane to take aerial photos of a scene, all I had to do was ask.
There are 11,000 Special Agents in the FBI, and at any given time about 120 are working Indian Country crimes. We got whatever we wanted.
A reservation is a very insular place. Murders happen, but they are almost always committed by someone from the reservation. People talk, and the list of suspects is usually pretty small. The hard part isn't finding out who did it, but making the case in court.
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Texas Star
US Veteran
Which agency is he with that allows that choice of weapons?
And which Indian tribe is involved? I don't know Wyoming tribes well. I think I MAY recall the Blackfeet being there.
You said the man likes guns, and is unhappy. That sounds like Hollywood. Far from having a well adjusted happy guy who likes guns. Not the PC cup of Darjeeling.
The character is with the US Fish and Wildlife Service. He’s what is known, at least around here, as a “government trapper.” I don’t know anything about the agency’s weapons policy but I know those folks have no federal law enforcement authority. At least the couple I’ve known didn’t.
The only two tribes in Wyoming are the Eastern Shoshone and the Arapahoe. Both tribes are on the Wind River Reservation, an unfortunate circumstance imposed by the govt. many, many years ago. But that’s another story.
Texas Star
US Veteran
Well then,I guess the only great movie I've ever seen is "The Outlaw Josey Wales."
f.t.
I don't know about that 25-30 times viewing, but do pick up on things in subsequent viewing that I missed on the first few views of a film.
Also applies to TV shows seen in re-runs or on DVD.
Some films have more to be gleaned from subsequent viewings than do others, of course.
And sometimes, you just learn more so you know more than when first seeing a film. When I first saw, "Battle of Britain" in the theater, I didn't know that later Spitfires had two under-wing radiators, so didn't realize that they were using some MK IX planes when a MK II would be the latest mark in use. But getting enough Spitfires of ANY mark was already a Herculean task, even in 1969.
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