With rising anmo cost, is there also a rising case for using reloads as SD ammo?

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Common Internet wisdom over the past 20 years has been: “Do not use reloads for self defense because you might get sued by the scumbag or his family and their scumbag attorney looking to extort money from you. Maybe even accuse you of murder.”
The “rational” (for lack of a better word) is that you used ammo that did more damage that resulted in serious injury or death to their upstanding client. As absurd as allof that is, they, supposedly, will convince a jury of the lowest common denominator of this and have your head on a platter.

However, with rising ammo costs, even common good quality ammo like Winchester, Remington and Federal costing as much as a dollar a round (something that used to be said of Buffalo Bore only a few years ago), isn’t there a basic logical reasoning for reloading your own ammo for practice and self-defense?
After all, 1) you want ammo that you can practice with frequently and that is consistant in POA with what you are carrying. 2) you can make ammo as good or better and for only a fraction of what it costs factory made.
All of this is in the interest of not only yourself but your family and those around you to make sure you can shoot accurately and are less likely to miss.

I was looking online and in store for .38 Spl+p LHP Remington, Winchester and Federal. All of them amount to $50+ (taxes, shipping, etc) for a box of $50. Not something anybody can practice with regularly and not something anybody can afford to buy in any great quantity.

Only a year or so ago, you could buy a box for $30. (Maybe less)

But, using Hornandy 158gr LSWCHP bullets and 5.2-5.4 gr of unique and a CCI 500 primer in a reused nickle plated case, you can reload the same round for almost nothing.
 
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However, with rising ammo costs, even common good quality ammo like Winchester, Remington and Federal costing as much as a dollar a round


I was looking online and in store for .38 Spl+p LHP Remington, Winchester and Federal. All of them amount to $50+ (taxes, shipping, etc) for a box of $50.

Only a year or so ago, you could buy a box for $30. (Maybe less)

Well, a quick look at Targetsportsusa:

Remington .38 Special +P 125 JHP,HTP, $17.99/50
Remington .38 Special +P 125 JHP, Golden Saber, $18.99/50
Speer .38 Special +P, 135 JHP Gold Dot, $19.99/50

Maybe a year ago, they were $30...
 
1) ammo costs are dropping - have been most of this year
2) reloading supplies costs are NOT dropping as much - in fact bullets seem to be going up
3) the idea of using reloads increasing your legal jeopardy in a SD case is just theory, and something no one has ever really documented
4) personally I would rather rely professionally loaded ammo for SD

So I guess my answer would be NO.
I use reloads for practice but carry factory SD ammo.
 
I bought 2 boxes of S&B 00 Buck--50 rds-- and 50 rds of 357 Remington 158gr jacketed soft point for $37 today. Ammo is very reasonable around here.
I carry my reloaded ammo and don't think much about it. If or when I find it reasonable I buy factory made also. Do whatever is best for you.
 
Carry what you want to carry, it is your life. I carry warm powder coated wadcutters, not too many factory choices. Have never seen a case where someone was convicted just for ammo alone, you are justified, or you are not.
 
Well, a quick look at Targetsportsusa:

Remington .38 Special +P 125 JHP,HTP, $17.99/50
Remington .38 Special +P 125 JHP, Golden Saber, $18.99/50
Speer .38 Special +P, 135 JHP Gold Dot, $19.99/50

Maybe a year ago, they were $30...

Can you find any LSWCHP or LHP 158 gr lead for those kinds of prices anymore? The old FBI Load is still considered by many to be the best in .38 spl.


Actually, I remember when the ammo you posted was much cheaper than that
 
...Actually, I remember when the ammo you posted was much cheaper than that
Well, yeah, all of us over 40 remember ammo being cheaper than it is now - years ago. Of course everything was cheaper in the past (as long as you don't adjust prices for inflation).

HOWEVER, the thread subject you posted is the RISING cost of ammo - which would be prices today being higher than they have been RECENTLY. Obviously that isn't what we've been seeing - ammo prices have been falling - not rising. If you're comparing prices now to 10 or 20 years ago they appear higher - until you adjust for inflation.

The only way I can see making the case for "rising cost of ammo" is to compare prices from 10 or 20 years ago to prices today and NOT make any adjustment for inflation. Is that what you're talking about?

BTW, Here's some Federal LSWCHP at Luckygunner for $23 a box
Cheap 38 Special Ammo For Sale - 158 gr +P LSWCHP Federal Law Enforcement Ammunition In Stock - 5f0 rounds
And they have it for as little as $20 a box if you want to buy 1000 rounds.
Bulk 38 Special Ammo For Sale - 158 gr +P LSWCHP Federal Law Enforcement Ammunition In Stock - 1000 rounds
That's a long ways from $50 a box - even after you add taxes and shipping.
 
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I practice with handloads....

..and only shoot some bought defense ammo to know what to expect. I don't think that a shortage of a best ammo is in the cards.....yet.

However, if everything gets scarce again, before I go without I'll stay loaded with I can get that I can trust. In other words, if all I can buy is LRN ammo, I'll make my own HPs or SWCs.
 
I cannot imagine shooting enough factory SD ammo to be cost prohibitive. I can see it as being easy to duplicate SD ammo velocities and weight for practice ammo. If you change the 6 in your cylinder or the 7 in your mag by shooting them out once every 6 months you have 3 1/2 years to a box of ammo. Practice with your reloads, carry whatever you want.
The proper response when, God forbid, you shoot someone with reloads is "that is what was in the gun".
 
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