Cops needed to take him to the station and hold him for the maximum allowable time (24 or 48 hours) to make sure he wasn't "escaped" from out of state. Put him in the cell with bubba overnight might cool him down some on his pranks.
Would you draw your weapon?
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Only if I believed that he was an immediate threat to me or mine and that is a call that has to be in each situation.
Kencan
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I would have called 911 and watched the situation before the cops came. Had it turned with him doing something to someone before the cops got there, well i would have deemed that an immediate threat and probably drawn.
A resounding NO...
...because my first thought in addressing a potential problem is NEVER 'draw a weapon.'
Moreover, my use of a gun is part of a continuum of force and NEVER the first option now in my 'armed citizen' life.
Be safe.
...because my first thought in addressing a potential problem is NEVER 'draw a weapon.'
Moreover, my use of a gun is part of a continuum of force and NEVER the first option now in my 'armed citizen' life.
Be safe.
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Thanks all for your input. If I was in the store and he was outside, I would call 911 and "wait and see" how it developed. If I was at the pumps and he started coming into my space, I would have been more assertive to get him to back away.
Like the article touched on, I suspect the guy was trying to get a reaction from the people at the pumps by imitating the escapee that murdered a deputy and wounded another in May this year. After attacking the deputies and crashing the sheriffs transport van, the escapee took off with the murdered deputies pistol attempting to car jack a car, with his hands still cuffed in front of him. The escapee shot one civillian in the neck in an unsuccessful carjacking attempt before he was able to get a car. He was caught after a car chase.
Like the article touched on, I suspect the guy was trying to get a reaction from the people at the pumps by imitating the escapee that murdered a deputy and wounded another in May this year. After attacking the deputies and crashing the sheriffs transport van, the escapee took off with the murdered deputies pistol attempting to car jack a car, with his hands still cuffed in front of him. The escapee shot one civillian in the neck in an unsuccessful carjacking attempt before he was able to get a car. He was caught after a car chase.
wingriderz
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No but as many have typed call 911 and keep eyes on him
And go to jail for assault. That wouldn't look too good on your resume.
I would have been looking for one of his buddies to show up. And once I realized he was alone and handcuffed, I would have called him colorful names.
In NC if you did draw your weapon in this situation you "COULD" be in violation of the brandishing statue......Unless this individual showed signs of present danger to others I like others would not show a weapon.
Realizing that stupid stunts like this can get innocent people hurt these people should probably be removed from the gene pool legally.
Realizing that stupid stunts like this can get innocent people hurt these people should probably be removed from the gene pool legally.
And go to jail for assault. That wouldn't look too good on your resume.
I would have been looking for one of his buddies to show up. And once I realized he was alone and handcuffed, I would have called him colorful names.
Yep, and if he is handcuffed and showing no weapon, grab him and sit on him until LEO arrives or if the YouTube video idiot shows up first grab him and stick his face in the ice cream box.
And go to jail for assault. That wouldn't look too good on your resume.
I would have been looking for one of his buddies to show up. And once I realized he was alone and handcuffed, I would have called him colorful names.
A: "You mean he's not an escapee? My bad . . . "
B: You oughta see my resume . . .
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No threat, no justifiable reason to use (or even imply the use of) deadly force. Call 911 and withdraw, preferably at the same time.
Glad the prankster didn't wind up dead.
Glad the prankster didn't wind up dead.
A: "You mean he's not an escapee? My bad . . . "
I can see it now, "Oh I'm sorry. I didn't see you there. Here let me help you off the floor".
You can touch him if you want but i'm not going to. Hard to watch my back with my hands full of dumb ***.
mrchuck
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Easy. Get outside in your car immediately.Lock your doors.
Pull out your phone and call 911 if you don't know your "local PD" phone #.
Stay there until the police arrive.
Tell them in person just what you saw inside.
If this perp comes outside before the Police arrive, get the car license, description of the car the perp got into.
Tell the arriving police what you saw.
Stay there until the police say you can leave.
You may have to give the police a formal report if the perp is cuffed and arrested.
This IS your civic duty to keep the perps off the streets.
You would be surprised just how many citizens do not want to be involved in anything.
Pull out your phone and call 911 if you don't know your "local PD" phone #.
Stay there until the police arrive.
Tell them in person just what you saw inside.
If this perp comes outside before the Police arrive, get the car license, description of the car the perp got into.
Tell the arriving police what you saw.
Stay there until the police say you can leave.
You may have to give the police a formal report if the perp is cuffed and arrested.
This IS your civic duty to keep the perps off the streets.
You would be surprised just how many citizens do not want to be involved in anything.
05CarbonDRZ
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It's 2017,Nobody cares about "Mental anguish" or "pain and suffering" anymore.You can only win cases based on BS when the Money is flowing.
The only problem with that is that the courts don't do collections. You might get a judgement against the guy but good luck getting him to actually pay it.
TexasArmed
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In Texas and a number of states one could just transition from
concealed carry to open carry, and then say, by the way I am calling the cops.
concealed carry to open carry, and then say, by the way I am calling the cops.
No, I wouldn't be surprised at all
In Texas and a number of states one could just transition from
concealed carry to open carry, and then say, by the way I am calling the cops.
Not a bad idea, that would be completely legal here in Missouri as long as you have a CCW. Even though we have Constitutional carry here now you still need a CCW to go open carry in some places.
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