X-frame cracking forcing cone.

[whoever]

460 appears to have cracked forcing cone last time out. Been feed a steady diet of only 200-gr Hornady 460, no homeloads.

Repairable?

 

[arjay]

I'd email S&W a copy of that photo.

 

[Animal_Mother556]

Just curious...what is your approximate round count?

 

[whoever]

Just curious...what is your approximate round count?

300ish ....

 

[Animal_Mother556]

Seems a little ridiculous, huh?

 

[s&wchad]

Warranty Repair Shipping Form - Smith & Wesson

 

[ladder13]

THIS ^^^^^^^^^^, they'll send you a shipping label to return the firearm. Just sent in a 642 on Tuesday.

 

[CWH44300]

that is impressive - talk about high performance - to do that much damage in 300rds - wow

 

[fxntime]

New barrel would fix that but I'm pretty surprised at the amount of erosion that it's showing also, especially after 300 rounds.

 

[team sidewinder]

The sad part is that is the repair work they do going to last any longer because 300rds isn't that many. It would be a shame on S&W if they haven't found a way to prevent this from happening. I still think along with poor quality control they just cheap out on the materials they use to make their guns these days. A few cents saved on every gun can make a huge bottom line profit for them at the end of the year.

 

[TNFrank]

Sounds like it's time to get S&W to fix it then sell it and buy a "Normal" 44Mag, M-29. If you can't kill it with a 44Mag you don't need to be hunting it in the first place. JMHO, YMMV.

 

[Ashlander]

I sort of agree with Frank on this -- the 460 is super-powerful -- and a lot of bragging rights go with it. But a 44 magnum is more practical and probably a lot easier to shoot -- however, I am not a big guy, so my perspective is biased in that regard.

 

[TNFrank]

I think a 4" M29 with wooden grips is uber cool. Had one and really loved it. You could actually carry it and even with 44spl it still packed a pretty good punch for Home Defense. JMHO, YMMV.

 

[scooter123]

The sad part is that is the repair work they do going to last any longer because 300rds isn't that many. It would be a shame on S&W if they haven't found a way to prevent this from happening. I still think along with poor quality control they just cheap out on the materials they use to make their guns these days. A few cents saved on every gun can make a huge bottom line profit for them at the end of the year.

Really, just how many 460 Magnums do you think they sell in a year, I suspect that it's well under 1000. Means that if they save 3 cents per gun by using inferior materials it'll add up to a huge 30 dollars at years end.

Personally I suspect that the ammo choice may play a role in this erosion. While I don't own a 460 Magnum I suspect that a 200 gn. bullet is is rather light for this caliber. As a result what we are seeing may be a product of flame cutting. Sum it up and with a 300 gn. bullet we may not see these results.

Good news is the warranty will cover the damage and S&W will return it with a new barrel installed. Points up that it's a good idea to give your gun a good looking over any time you clean it so you can see something like this developing before it causes any real damage or injury.

 

[team sidewinder]

Really, just how many 460 Magnums do you think they sell in a year, I suspect that it's well under 1000. Means that if they save 3 cents per gun by using inferior materials it'll add up to a huge 30 dollars at years end.

Personally I suspect that the ammo choice may play a role in this erosion. While I don't own a 460 Magnum I suspect that a 200 gn. bullet is is rather light for this caliber. As a result what we are seeing may be a product of flame cutting. Sum it up and with a 300 gn. bullet we may not see these results.

Good news is the warranty will cover the damage and S&W will return it with a new barrel installed. Points up that it's a good idea to give your gun a good looking over any time you clean it so you can see something like this developing before it causes any real damage or injury.

I did not mean S&W is cheaping out on the 460 but on all their guns which adds up to way more than $30. Less quality control and cheaper materials all add up and it doesn't take long reading posts here on this forum to see how many unhappy S&W gun owners are on here with new guns. They just aren't making them like the old days.

And even if warranty does fix it which they will nobody wants to be sending their gun in every 300rds.

 

[andyo5]

Look at the rear edge of the forcing cone. It looks rounded off and chipped, as if too-large bullets had been forced through it. I wonder if the inner diameter of the forcing cone might be undersized.

 

[whoever]

I sort of agree with Frank on this -- the 460 is super-powerful -- and a lot of bragging rights go with it. But a 44 magnum is more practical and probably a lot easier to shoot -- however, I am not a big guy, so my perspective is biased in that regard.

My 500s are almost that far round-count wise and nowhere near the erosion.

 

[Satoken]

The first picture tells me this gun was shot with cast bullets. 200gr Hornady wouldn't leave those gray deposit. I may be wrong but that what I feel. Also, 300rds? My be true but forcing cone gets like this evntually. No big deal as the factory will fix it.

 

[Sebago Son]

I did not mean S&W is cheaping out on the 460 but on all their guns which adds up to way more than $30. Less quality control and cheaper materials all add up and it doesn't take long reading posts here on this forum to see how many unhappy S&W gun owners are on here with new guns. They just aren't making them like the old days.

Do you have access to S&W's Balance Sheet to support this drivel or are you just spitting on the stove?

 

[DonD]

Less quality control and cheaper materials all add up and it doesn't take long reading posts here on this forum to see how many unhappy S&W gun owners are on here with new guns. They just aren't making them like the old days.

I've said it before on this forum, shooters/writers with what I suspect have far more experience than the vast majority of shooters here and who have industry ties, say the exact opposite of what you do. Today's materials are far better than in the past, there's just less hand fitting.

We should be eternally grateful that many things aren't made like the "old days". Gosh how we should miss 1965 Mustangs with wheezing, in line sixes, 16 mpg, horrible emissions, lousy brakes, crappy point style ignition and reliability and on and on. Today, we have turbocharged 4 cylinders that can kick tail on old style 400 cu in V-8s. Yes, let's give that all up!!!

The 460 is a very intense, high pressure cartridge and the materials of "old days" wouldn't even begin to withstand the abuse it hands out. I seriously doubt that cracks such as those the OP's gun have are at all common.

For everyone who is pleased with his/her new modern revolver, there seems to be far more who want to shout to the internet world about how dissatisfied they are for the most minor issues. Don