You can't have it both ways!

[coltle6920]

No one was gloating about possessing fifth grade math skills. The point of the thread was that a grown man was doing a job for which he was not qualified for (albeit a simple job), he made no effort to remedy the situation, and his employer made allowances for it rather than train him to be better at his job.

It's a shame you feel offended. First off I bet that no one buying blinds is as technical as you were. Secondly I doubt that any window is perfect from top to bottom as far as measurements go making perfection impossible.

As an example a normal person goes to Home Depot and says they need blinds for a 36" window. Knowing that windows aren't perfect from top to bottom the employee will usually take off roughly a 1/4" from both sides of a 36" blind to allow for any difference in the windows construction. I'm sure a math degree isn't a requirement to work at Lowes or Home Depot.

Time to move on...

 

[Nevada Ed]

It all started when they took the ruler out of the teachers hand and let the kids misbehave in the class room, without punishment or at least sent home for a week or expelled from school to repeat the class the next year.

We hated to have to go to summer school to fix up our short comings but
I don't even know if they even do this thing, now?

Now the teachers just want to pass the kids and let the next teacher try
to teach them, if they are willing.
A lot of kids go to school now, just to receive a lunch !!

 

[Golddollar]

I did a lot of writing in my previous career. Much easier and faster to print.

I always thought my cursive writing was pretty good, but I still got a lot of questions from staff about it. Luckily because of my regular duties I could print very clearly and fairly fast and the questions stopped. I could print three levels of characters in the space on a legal pad and they were perfectly legible.

 

[tinkerer]

"The teachers that I had in the 50's and 60's would never have put up with the garbage going on today."

I think I had the same teachers....And still have the 'memories'.

They also had the support of the parents and administration.

There are still some great kids in school attaining a quality education...I know quite a few. One will only get out what one puts into an endeavor.

The teachers I had wouldn't be permitted to work in the system today...Or they would be prosecuted for abuse....Mom and Dad too.

 

[GypsmJim]

It's the system AND the student...

Kids don't care about school. Their only concern is to have a party and be on social media.

The parents have dropped the ball. Mom yells at the teacher because they got too much homework and can't facebook enough. Dad doesn't even bother to attend the parent teacher conference.

Parents used to belong to the PTA. Hardly anybody does that any more.

The school system is totally out of control. They indoctrinate the kids. MANY teachers are flaming liberals. No one there to provide an opposing view.

The curriculum is dumbed down. Can't have little Johnny's brain stuffed with too much stuff. Cursive is a good example. Life skills are not taught anymore, and Mommy doesn't want to bother. She's on facebook too.

Kids are allowed to carry a cellphone at all times. They are caught and sent to the "office" and the next day they are i class on facebook again....and again....

Kids are not allowed to fail. They are put thru from grade to grade even if they didn't pass. The administrators are afraid to confront little Johnny's mom.

I realize there are a alot of generalizations here. Obviously, not all apply all the time. But, too many DO apply, way too often. My wife is a teacher and my son is a hiring manager. I believe what they tell me, and its based on what they see.

Back in the day I knew a few boys in my classes that were real *****. But back then we had the draft. Funny thing was that those idiots all turned out pretty well after they came back from the army.

 

[steelslaver]

If the school can make your kid a liberal, why can't the make them put away their phone and behave?

If the school makes one of my kids a liberal, it is because I turned over a kid that they could turn in to a liberal and I did nothing about it while it was happening.

One of my daughters once remarked about how the US had done some horrible things. I asked her just which nation had been perfect in their beginning, The Norse and the Vikings, the British with their colonies, the French or as she is also German I reminded her of their history. Then asked her thoughts on all the good America has done the world. Ending 2 world wars, sending food and money all over the world. Young men giving their very lives for the freedom of others.

Another time it was the treatment of immigrants and the poor. I said we are doing pretty well and life is good for use, we should take in a poor immigrant family and they could share their rooms with the children and we could make the family room into a bedroom for the parents. Of course their clothing, allowances and phones would be shared with them and we would have to buy cheaper food to feed everyone. So far the subject has not came up again.

You are their primary teacher. You set the stage.

If your young and not a bit liberal you don't have a heart.
If your old and a liberal you don't have a brain.

 

[Chubbo]

School teachers

In the public schools that my family and I attended, the school superintendent, considered themselves, lord and master of all their students, and went to any means to prove, and ensure it.

School teachers can greatly promote, or totally squelch a student's academic endeavors. That is a broad, candid statement. For an example; I was given two full credits to teach classes in industrial arts in our high school. I had 14 full credits, with only 12 needed to graduate from high school. Because of a controversy with the school superintendent, I was informed that he wouldn't sign my graduation certificate, and he didn't. Officially, I didn't graduate from high school. Many years later It was proven that that same superintendent was unqualified for his position, and dismissed; What ones of us thousands of students legally graduated?

A school teacher plays an important role in a student's life, be it good or bad.

Chubbo

 

[WR Moore]

After a bit of reflection, I realize that one of the current failings in the schools is relating what's being taught to the real world. As an example, when we first encountered the Pythagorean Theorum, the teacher showed us how it can be used in surveying and other uses. Machinists make quite a bit of use of it.....or at least used to.

Moving forward to the end of the last century, I needed to place a corner fence post in a spot I couldn't see from the first post. So, I recruited a daughter's boyfriend as flag man. After we'd got our angle and reference point, He asked me what we were doing. I explained. Comment by an honor grad of the local schools: "You mean there's a practical use for trig?"

 

[Puller]

Most kids that fail to perform and learn in school do so from a lack of engagement from their parent(s).